Why N.O. Saints are America's New Team

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The discussion revolves around the claim that the New Orleans Saints are "America's New Team," a statement that has sparked various reactions and opinions among participants. The conversation touches on themes of regional pride, sports fandom, and cultural associations, with references to other teams like the Dallas Cowboys and historical perspectives on French influence in America.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the Saints being labeled as America's New Team, citing personal connections to the team and the region.
  • Others strongly disagree with the notion, emphasizing a dislike for the French and questioning the validity of the Saints' claim to this title.
  • A few participants challenge the idea of excitement surrounding the Saints, suggesting that unless one has a financial stake, there is little reason to be enthusiastic.
  • There are humorous remarks about the Dallas Cowboys' historical claim as America's Team, with some suggesting that the Saints could not replace that title.
  • Several posts reflect a broader cultural debate, with participants making disparaging comments about the French and discussing historical contributions of the French to American independence.
  • Some participants share personal anecdotes about family ties to the Saints or other teams, indicating a complex relationship with team loyalty.
  • There are references to other groups, such as the Vikings and Dutch, in a humorous context, which adds to the light-hearted nature of some exchanges.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not agree on the claim that the Saints are America's New Team, with multiple competing views and a mix of humor and serious commentary on cultural identity and sports loyalty. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Some comments reflect strong cultural biases and personal opinions that may not be universally shared, indicating a reliance on subjective experiences rather than objective assessments.

Who May Find This Useful

Fans of the New Orleans Saints, sports enthusiasts interested in team loyalty dynamics, and those curious about cultural perceptions related to sports teams may find this discussion engaging.

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I live in Baton Rouge, work in New Orleans, from LA. I was born a Saints fan so you can imagine my excitement. I heard a few sources stating N.O. Saints are America's New Team, sorry Dallas. My expectation is that you would state your agreement or disagreement and give your reasoning. Thank you.
 
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No. I will not have my country associated with the french in any way, shape or form.

Freakin' French! :mad:
 
so you can imagine my excitement.
Not really. Unless you bet on them, I don't see how you benefit from it at all, thus I don't know what there is to be excited about.
 
leroyjenkens said:
Not really. Unless you bet on them, I don't see how you benefit from it at all, thus I don't know what there is to be excited about.

Are you a Vulcan or something? :wink:

It's pretty common to share in the joy/excitement of the success of one's favorite team, player, organization, etc.
 
ndnkyd said:
I heard a few sources stating N.O. Saints are America's New Team, sorry Dallas. My expectation is that you would state your agreement or disagreement and give your reasoning. Thank you.

Well, I have my doubts that either Dallas or New Orleans could replace http://www.usacurl.org/curlingrocks//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=734&Itemid=39 as America's Team.

Still, I'm kind of impressed that people from Dallas and New Orleans even know what ice is.
 
MotoH said:
No. I will not have my country associated with the french in any way, shape or form.

Your bitterness will not change the culture of the region.
 
MotoH said:
No. I will not have my country associated with the french in any way, shape or form.

Freakin' French! :mad:

Why don't you go to France and learn about it first-hand before you make any sort of proclamaitons? Or at the very least, read a book about it.
 
ndnkyd said:
I live in Baton Rouge, work in New Orleans, from LA. I was born a Saints fan so you can imagine my excitement. I heard a few sources stating N.O. Saints are America's New Team, sorry Dallas. My expectation is that you would state your agreement or disagreement and give your reasoning. Thank you.

Congrats to the Saints and New Orleans!

Dallas was America's team? Maybe South America. :biggrin: Dallas has always been one of my least favorite teams.
 
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Actually, my dad lives in Baton Rouge, so I had to root for New Orleans just because he did.

Although he is kind of fickle. Until this year, he rooted for Indianapolis. If New Orleans had a mediocre team, at least he could root for a team quarterbacked by the son of a great New Orleans quarterback. I was kind of wondering which team he would wind up rooting for - Peyton Manning or the Saints.

Personally, it's Broncos all the way, for me.
 
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lisab said:
Why don't you go to France and learn about it first-hand before you make any sort of proclamaitons? Or at the very least, read a book about it.
Lisa, you've just flitted away 30 seconds of your life - still got a long ways to go to catch up with me though!

PS: I wouldn't mind making a few proclamaitons myself. They sound sexy, in a French kind of way.
 
  • #11
All the French know about is building cities underwater and loosing wars!

Freaking French!
 
  • #12
The Dallas Cowboys are and have always been America's Team. The Saints will be lucky to make the playoffs next year.
 
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MotoH said:
All the French know about is building cities underwater and loosing wars!

Freaking French!

Wow...you are kind of retarded huh. It was nice of PF to let you tag along though wasn't it? They are so compassionate.; it really warms the heart.
 
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MotoH said:
All the French know about is building cities underwater and loosing wars!
I must say we are all terribly grateful that they won in 1775–1783, otherwise we would be forced to play silly football as well.

"levee", from the French word levée (from the feminine past participle of the French verb lever, "to raise") - doesn't say anything about making them watertight?
Tip for next time, get the Dutch in - terribly nice people and they do a very good job of making your country waterproof.
 
  • #15
The Dutch may be able to make things watertight, but they sure. . . Well I really have nothing bad to say about the Dutch. Nice people really.
 
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MotoH said:
All the French know about is building cities underwater and loosing wars!

Freaking French!

What do you think about Chuck Yeager?
 
  • #17
berkeman said:
What do you think about Chuck Yeager?

Well he did break the sound barrier, so he seems like a nice man.

Does he have French ancestry?
 
  • #18
Don't like French people? The don't come to Maine for a vacation. Many of us are descended from the French traders and trappers that colonized Canada and intermarried with Indian women. The Cajuns (Acadians) that populate Louisiana started out in the Maritimes until they were driven out by the British.

BTW, if the French had not provided financial support to the colonists and supplied them with nice Charleville muskets, you'd be sipping tea and singing God Save the Queen. Learning a little American history can take you a long way...
 
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MotoH said:
Well he did break the sound barrier, so he seems like a nice man.

Does he have French ancestry?

Not that I know of. But he says he owes his life to the French, and doesn't appreciate the anti-French attitude of some Americans.

I went to a talk that General Yeager gave recently at the Aerospace Museum of California in Sacramento (at McClellan AFB).

http://www.aerospacemuseumofcalifornia.org/

The subject of his being shot down in WW2 in enemy territory came up, and he got pretty emotional about the month he spent getting out of France with the help of the French Underground. He says that he would never have made it out alive without their help, and that they were risking their lives significanly by helping him.

I'd recommend that you not display your disdain for the French in front of General Yeager, if you ever happen to meet him. He's still flying fighter jets in his 80's, BTW.

Hearing him talk sure gave me a new perspective on the French.
 
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/sigh.

I have no problem with the French. Making fun of the French is a past time. Somewhat like all Ozies being criminals, all French are sissies.

Sorry if I offended a Frenchman. Well wouldn't it prove that the French are sissies if a Frenchman was offended? :confused:

Anyways, the Vikings are Americas team. They work their way up to something great, and end up fumbling in the end.
 
  • #21
MotoH said:
Anyways, the Vikings are Americas team.
Ah yes, the people that discovered America but had the good taste not to mention it.
 
  • #22
The Vikings were kinda A-holes about those types of things.

All they did was rape and pillage, rape and pillage. Wouldn't that get old after a while?
 
  • #23
MotoH said:
The Vikings were kinda A-holes about those types of things.

All they did was rape and pillage, rape and pillage. Wouldn't that get old after a while?

The French, The Vikes...I bet the list of peoples you dislike goes on.
 
  • #24
turbo-1 said:
BTW, if the French had not provided financial support to the colonists and supplied them with nice Charleville muskets, you'd be sipping tea and singing God Save the Queen. Learning a little American history can take you a long way...

You say that like its a bad thing to be sipping tea!
 
  • #25
MotoH said:
The Vikings were kinda A-holes about those types of things.

All they did was rape and pillage, rape and pillage. Wouldn't that get old after a while?

Nope.
 
  • #26
MotoH said:
The Dutch may be able to make things watertight, but they sure. . . Well I really have nothing bad to say about the Dutch. Nice people really.

Wish we could say the same for you, but alas.
 

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