Will the World End Due to an Atomic War?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether the world could end due to an atomic war, with references to the Mayan calendar prediction for December 21, 2012. Participants explore the implications of global conflict and the historical context of nuclear deterrence, while also addressing misconceptions about the Mayan calendar.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the idea that the world will end due to atomic war, suggesting that such predictions are unfounded and based on internet myths.
  • Others note that while global war could potentially devastate civilization, it is not linked to the Mayan calendar's December 21, 2012 date.
  • One participant highlights the historical context of the Cold War and the concept of Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) as a deterrent against nuclear conflict.
  • There are claims that the Mayan calendar does not predict an end of the world scenario, but rather a transition to a new time cycle.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of proper grammar and adherence to forum rules, while others critique the enforcement of these rules in the context of the original poster's contributions.
  • Links to external resources, including videos and articles, are shared to provide additional context or clarification regarding the Mayan calendar and predictions of apocalypse.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the significance of the December 21, 2012 date and its relation to the end of the world. While some dismiss it as a myth, others acknowledge the potential for global conflict to impact civilization without linking it to the specific date.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the historical context of nuclear deterrence and the implications of global conflict, but there is no consensus on the likelihood or nature of potential future conflicts.

pmquan_92
Hey guys,I'm new member of forum.I have a question for you.
I think you are listened to Dec 21 2012.The Maya said that "the World will be ended on that day".So

DO YOU THINK END OF THE WORLD WILL BE COME BY THE ATOMIC WAR?

If no or yes,could you please give me some cause ?(The question for people think the world will be destroyed by human,don't think me spam and don't flame me,thank you!)
Have a nice day!
 
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It is possible that civilization may some day be brought to its knees by global war, but it will have nothing to do with Dec 21, 2012. That is internet myth nonsense that you should pay no heed to.

Also, forum rules require attention to grammar and punctuation. You should avoid SMS shorthand.
 
I saw something in TV:The war of Korea,North Korea,USA,Iran,..All of them talked about reactor,atomic weapon,...Should we care about it? Do you think it will be influence your country,my country,..global?
 
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pmquan_92 said:
Hey guys,i'm new member of 4rum.so,i have a question for u.
I think you are listened to 21 12 2012.The Maya said that "the World will be ended on that day".So

DO YOU THINK END OF THE WORLD WILL BE COME BY THE ATOMIC WAR?

if no or yes,could you please give me some cause ?(The question for people think the world will be destroyed by human,don't think me spam and don't flame me,tks!^^)
have a nice day!
Please type out entire words instead of using text-speak (forum rules). And no, there is no reason to believe that the world will end. During the Cold War, the US and Russia faced off in a battle known as MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction), just so neither side would dare to launch ICBMs at the other. The result was an uneasy peace, and VERY wealthy weapons manufacturers. We are still here. If we can draw down stockpiles of such weapons, we'll be much better off.

If any of your friends start talking about December 21, 2012, please inform them that the "end of the world" is a fantasy, possibly caused by some limitation in the Mayan's calendric cycles or their numbering system. Google Harold Camping to see how these predictions turn out.
 
DaveC426913 said:
It is possible that civilization may some day be brought to its knees by global war, but it will have nothing to do with Dec 21, 2012. That is internet myth nonsense that you should pay no heed to.

Also, forum rules require attention to grammar and punctuation. You should avoid SMS shorthand.
I'm sorry.I wasn't read forum rules careful before post thread.I'll read it again.Thanks for your remind.
 
Does this help?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju-8ONVp_TU
 
Please do not use text speak on this forum. Please use proper grammar and spelling.

To answer your question: no, the world will not end on that date. That is: it is as likely that the world ends on 21 december as that it ends tomorrow. There is not inherently special about 21 december other than a hype on the internet.

In fact: the maya calendar doesn't end on 21 december at all. The idea of the mayan calendar is that it is subdivided in specific time units. These units are called:

1 day = 1 kin
20 days = 1 Uinal
360 days = 1 Tun
7,200 = 1 Ka'tun
144,000 days = 1 Bak'tun

What happens on 21 december is that the current Bak'tun will end and that a new one will begin. Currently, we are in the 12th Bak'tun and on 21 december we will move on to the 13'th Bak'tun. There is nothing inherently special or cataclysmic at that. It's the equivalent that january ends and that february begins.

People started saying that 21 december is the end of the world just to get some cash.

Note, that the world WILL end once. This end is estimated at 7.6 billions years from now. Mankind will likely not live long enough to see it happen.
 
micromass said:
Note, that the world WILL end once. This end is estimated at 7.6 billions years from now.

Ain't that "helium flash" a biatch?


edit: I first went with something more recognizable, but altered it for realism.
 
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Interestingly enough the OP manages to break a plethora of forum rules, yet he is still around and the thread is not even locked. :rolleyes:

But I agree, education is much more important than policing.
 
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By the bye, we do allow for "English as a second language" grammar and spelling mistakes, as long as an effort is made.
 
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Andre said:
Interestingly enough the OP manages to break a plethora of forum rules, yet he is still around and the thread is not even locked. :rolleyes:

But I agree, education is much more important than policing.

Note that the OP at this point just asked a question and doesn't claim anything.

This thread is on a very short leash however. As soon as the OP (or anybody else) starts arguing and starts spouting crackpottery, then this thread will be locked immediately.
 
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Thanks Micromass,

Maybe the OP should read http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/cargocul.htm to get the idea.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
Does this help?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju-8ONVp_TU

:smile:
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
Does this help?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju-8ONVp_TU

More apposite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

Although I prefer this for sheer cynical value (profanity warning!)

 
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