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The discussion revolves around determining the initial value problem (IVP) corresponding to a given equation resulting from the application of the Laplace Transform. Participants explore the implications of different forms of the equation and verify their solutions through analysis of the Laplace Transform properties.

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  • One participant presents an equation from the Laplace Transform and proposes an IVP, stating $y(0) = 2$, $y'(0) = 1$, leading to the equation $y'' + y' - 2y = 4$.
  • Another participant presents a different equation and proposes a similar IVP, suggesting $y'' + y' + 2y = 4$, but questions the correctness of their solution.
  • A later reply analyzes the terms in the Laplace Transform, concluding that the absence of a $Y$ term suggests a specific value for $C$ and derives conditions for $y(0)$ and $y'(0)$, ultimately proposing a different IVP: $y'' + y' = 4$ with $y(0) = 2$ and $y'(0) = 1$.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in the original question, clarifying the equation and asking if their answer remains valid.
  • Another participant confirms that the revised answer is correct, stating that the $-2Y$ term must originate from a corresponding term in the original differential equation.

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Participants express differing views on the correctness of their proposed IVPs based on the equation forms. While one participant's revised answer is confirmed as correct, there remains uncertainty regarding the initial interpretations and derivations.

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Participants rely on specific properties of the Laplace Transform and the relationships between the terms in the equations, which may depend on the definitions and assumptions made during the analysis. The discussion reflects ongoing refinement of ideas rather than a settled conclusion.

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When the Laplace Transform is applied to a certain IVP, the resulting equation is $(s^2Y - 2s - 1) + (sY - 2) - 2Y = \frac{4}{s}$

What was the IVP?

So I think I've solved this, but just want to make sure I got the correct answer.

I got:

$y(0) = 2$ , $y'(0) = 1$, & $C = 2$

$\therefore y'' + y' - 2y = 4$ was the IVP correct?
 
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shamieh said:
When the Laplace Transform is applied to a certain IVP, the resulting equation is $(s^2Y - 2s - 1) + (sY - 2) = \frac{4}{s}$

What was the IVP?

So I think I've solved this, but just want to make sure I got the correct answer.

I got:

$y(0) = 2$ , $y'(0) = 1$, & $C = 2$

$\therefore y'' + y' + 2y = 4$ was the IVP correct?

Hmm. We have that
\begin{align*}
L\{y(t)\}&=Y(s) \\
L\{y'(t)\}&=s Y(s)-y(0) \\
L\{y''(t)\}&=s^2 Y(s) -sy(0)-y'(0).
\end{align*}
Now, our ansatz will be
$$(s^2Y - 2s - 1) + (sY - 2)=L\{A y''(t)+By'(t)+Cy(t)\}.$$
The absence of any $Y$ in the LT suggests that $C=0$. Taking the LT on the RHS, then, yields
$$A(s^2 Y-sy(0)-y'(0))+B(s Y-y(0)).$$
It must be that $A=1$, or the $s^2Y$ term wouldn't work. That is, our equation is now
$$(s^2Y - 2s - 1) + (sY - 2)=s^2 Y-sy(0)-y'(0)+B(s Y-y(0)).$$
Is there a value of $B$ that would make this work? Well, let's see if we can determine $y(0)$ and $y'(0)$ first. On the LHS, there is the $-2s$ term - this must mean that $-y(0)=-2$, or $y(0)=2$. Plugging this into the equation yields
$$ - 1 + sY - 2=-y'(0)+B(s Y-2).$$
The only value of $B$ that works here is $B=1$. Thus, our equation boils down to
$$ -3=-y'(0)-2.$$
This implies $y'(0)=1$. So the IVP must be
\begin{align*}
y''(t)+y'(t)&=4 \\
y(0)&=2 \\
y'(0)&=1.
\end{align*}
We double-check by taking the LT:
\begin{align*}
s^2 Y -sy(0)-y'(0)+s Y-y(0)&=\frac4s \\
s^2 Y-2s-1+sY-2&=\frac4s.
\end{align*}
Can you see where you went wrong?
 
Ach, I wrote the incorrect question. It should have said $(s^2Y - 2s - 1) + (sY - 2) -2Y = \frac{4}{s}$ instead of $(s^2Y - 2s - 1) + (sY - 2) = \frac{4}{s}$ would my answer then be correct?
 
I've edited the question to what I meant to have it say in the first place :rolleyes: I'm still unsure if my answer is correct tho. Can you verify?
 
Yes, I should say your answer is now correct. The $-2Y$ term can only come from a $-2y(t)$ term in the original DE. The rest of the analysis goes through as is.
 

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