Your body isn't as old as you think

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of aging and cell replication, specifically how the body continuously renews its cells and what that implies about biological age. Participants explore the implications of cell turnover on the perception of age, referencing scientific insights and personal reflections.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention the idea that as we age, our cells accumulate mutations, likening this process to copying errors in a copying machine.
  • There is a claim that the average age of cells in an adult's body may be as young as 7 to 10 years due to constant renewal.
  • One participant raises a question about the extent to which the materials that make up new cells are recycled from previous meals, suggesting a complexity in understanding biological age.
  • Another participant humorously notes that while most cells may be younger, neurons are typically as old as the individual, prompting a discussion about the implications of this fact.
  • Several posts include attempts at humor regarding the implications of being "younger" biologically, with some participants reflecting on the irony of such statements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of curiosity and humor about the implications of biological age, but there is no consensus on the interpretations of aging or the significance of cell turnover versus neuron age.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on complex biological processes and assumptions about cell renewal, recycling of materials, and the implications for understanding aging, but does not resolve these complexities.

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A thread in philosophy made me think of something I had learned years ago about cell replication and aging and how as we age we tend to get more and more "mutations".

As Alan Alda said in a Scientific American Frontiers show, it's like copying copies in a copying machine. Each time you copy a copy, the quality gets worse. So, even though the cells are new, they are not the same as the originals, we call this "aging". This was also the show on nematodes and telomeres for those of you that saw it. Here is the transcript http://www.pbs.org/saf/transcripts/transcript1003.htm

Anyway, I digress, I was reading about bones back then and was surprised to learn that our bones are recreated on a seven year cycle (this article says 10, whatever).

I was thinking if I was surprised to learn at just how "young" our bones are, some others may also find this interesting. It seems that we are finding out more and more every day.

Here's an article to get you started.

Your Body Is Younger Than You Think

Whatever your age, your body is many years younger. In fact, even if you're middle aged, most of you may be just 10 years old or less.

This heartening truth, which arises from the fact that most of the body's tissues are under constant renewal, has been underlined by a novel method of estimating the age of human cells. Its inventor, Jonas Frisen, believes the average age of all the cells in an adult's body may turn out to be as young as 7 to 10 years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/02/science/02cell.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
 
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Evo said:
A thread in philosophy made me think of something I had learned years ago about cell replication and aging and how as we age we tend to get more and more "mutations".

As Alan Alda said in a Scientific American Frontiers show, it's like copying copies in a copying machine. Each time you copy a copy, the quality gets worse. So, even though the cells are new, they are not the same as the originals, we call this "aging". This was also the show on nematodes and telomeres for those of you that saw it. Here is the transcript http://www.pbs.org/saf/transcripts/transcript1003.htm

Anyway, I digress, I was reading about bones back then and was surprised to learn that our bones are recreated on a seven year cycle (this article says 10, whatever).

I was thinking if I was surprised to learn at just how "young" our bones are, some others may also find this interesting. It seems that we are finding out more and more every day.

Here's an article to get you started.



http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/02/science/02cell.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Thanks a bunch Evo, I feel better already:approve::biggrin:

Ron
 
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RonL said:
Thanks a bunch Evo, I feel better already:approve::biggrin:

Ron
Yeah, nice to know that physically you're only 10-15 years old, eh?
 
To some extent that's a question about dilutions - how much of what's inside of me was there - say - 10 years ago? Cells may be new, but they are built from material transported by blood. Part of this material is new, but part is recycled.

Which makes me wonder, how much of the meal my Dad had in early sixties is still insde of me...
 
Evo said:
Yeah, nice to know that physically you're only 10-15 years old, eh?

Except for your neurons, most of these are as old as you are.

Maybe this statement was a tautology..
 
Cincinnatus said:
Except for your neurons, most of these are as old as you are.

Maybe this statement was a tautology..
It was an attempt at a joke, I guess it was a poor attempt. :smile: The piece I linked to talks about neurons.
 
and the response was meant to be ironic, I guess it was a poor attempt:smile:
 
Cincinnatus said:
and the response was meant to be ironic, I guess it was a poor attempt:smile:
:smile:
 

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