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Ki Man
Dec11-05, 11:07 PM
i recently finished reading Beyond Einstien by Michou Kaku, and i found an interesting theory. because antimatter is indistinguishable from matter going backwards in time, there is a theory that the universe has one electron. it went from the big bang to the big destruction as an electron, and then it was thrown back through time as antimatter. at this point the universe has one electron and one positron.

:rofl: :confused:

then time goes back to the big bang, where all of the existing pieces are thrown foreward throught time with their new clone of the original electron.

:rofl: :confused: :rofl:

and it keeps going back and forth. i think it would almost be instantaneous because they are flying forewards and backwards through time.

eventually you get this:
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this theory can kind of be compared to Back to the Future when he goes to the future just in time to see himself go into the past

heh i'm sorry about my poor explanation. blame my english teacher.

i know this theory is somewhat possible, but is it likely?

dicerandom
Dec11-05, 11:50 PM
If you can't use it to make predictions which can then be measured and verified it isn't much of a theory. I've read about this idea a few times before in various places, but I can't recall ever seeing anyone use it to make a prediction which could be verified, or even stating how it might be possible to develop the theory further in order to be able to make predictions.

Ki Man
Dec11-05, 11:53 PM
yeah... it still doesn't make total sense to me either... the major events dont make sense to me and there are gaps that i just cant put my finger on.

so i guess this "theory" is highly unlikely, huh?

DaleSpam
Dec12-05, 05:36 PM
I looked at this a bit and I think that for every "cloned" electron you would need one positron. I can't draw the graphs any way to avoid it. So if all electrons in the universe were the same electron just going back (as a positron) and forth (as an electron) in time then I think we would have to observe about as many positrons as electrons. Since we don't I think the idea is incorrect.

Either that or someone smarter than me needs to draw the worldlines.

-Dale

debeng
Dec18-05, 03:16 AM
i have also read and thought about that idea and at one point i just thought time originated just as the big bang occured, it created a CONSTANT TIME and it is time what is governing everything around.everything exapnded in this universe except time, which perhaps would have been moving back and forth just as you say.

zoobyshoe
Dec18-05, 09:14 AM
I looked at this a bit and I think that for every "cloned" electron you would need one positron. I can't draw the graphs any way to avoid it. So if all electrons in the universe were the same electron just going back (as a positron) and forth (as an electron) in time then I think we would have to observe about as many positrons as electrons. Since we don't I think the idea is incorrect.
Either that or someone smarter than me needs to draw the worldlines.
-Dale
This "one electron" idea was, in fact, first thought up by Feynman. He threw it out the window in a day or so for the very reason you did. There aren't anywhere near enough positrons.

nvidia17
Dec18-05, 02:48 PM
But what formed the electron in the first place? How did it come into existence?