Find the acceleration of the elevator.

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The discussion revolves around determining the acceleration of an elevator based on the readings of a bathroom scale when a student stands on it. The scenario involves varying scale readings as the elevator moves, raising questions about the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore how to find the mass of the person using the scale reading at rest and question the next steps after determining the mass. There is discussion about the normal force experienced during the elevator's movement and how to calculate the net force.

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Some participants have provided guidance on calculating the mass from the initial scale reading and have outlined how to find the net force during the elevator's ascent. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the application of Newton's laws.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the only forces acting are the weight of the person and the normal force from the scale, and they are considering the effects of acceleration due to the elevator's movement.

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how can i find the answer w/o knowing the mass?

A student stands on a bathroom scale in an elevator at rest on the 64th floor of a building. The scale reads 818 N. As the elevator moves up, the scale reading increases to 950 N, then decreases back to 818 N. Find the acceleration of the elevator.
 
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Actually you can solve for the mass of the person when he is at rest. At rest, acceleration is due to gravity so:

[tex]F_{1}=mg[/tex]
and
[tex]m=\frac{F_{1}}{g}[/tex]

where [tex]g=9.81\frac{m}{s^2}[/tex] and [tex]F_{1}=818N[/tex].
 
after i find the mass of the person? wut do i have to do?
 
950N is the normal force the person experiences.

The person's weight must be subtracted out to get the net force which is 950N-818N=132N.

Using Newton's 2nd Law, we can can find the acceleration.

[tex]F=ma[/tex]

implies

[tex]a=\frac{F}{m}[/tex]

where F =132N and m is the mass of the person found.
 

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