milk left out

[Greg Bernhardt]

I left 1/2 gallon of 1% milk out for nearly three hours. Still felt chilled. Think I should drink it? I really don't want to go out to the store tonight!

[The_Professional]

try it a bit, if it taste sour and has a weird smell then it's better to just throw it away

[honestrosewater]

I left 1/2 gallon of 1% milk out for nearly three hours. Still felt chilled. Think I should drink it? I really don't want to go out to the store tonight!4 cumulative hours spent at a temperature in the "Danger Zone", 41-140*F, is the cutoff for restaurants in Florida (and all of the US, I think). Any longer than that, it's garbage; less, they can serve it to you; not sure about 4 hours exactly (I'd toss it, personally). Keep in mind that you don't know what temperatures it was at for how long before you bought it (or if your fridge stopped working for a few hours without you noticing), so use your senses.

BTW, to be clear, that's the temperature of the food, not its environment.

[Math Is Hard]

hmmm...only one thought comes to mind...

WWTDD?





(what would tribdog do?)

[Moonbear]

Disclaimer: Don't sue me if I'm wrong!

If it still felt chilled, and you're going to drink it tonight, it's probably okay, at least if it started out fairly fresh (if it's already close to the expiration date, I'd just dump it, because it might have already been starting some bacterial growth). A half gallon is a large enough volume, it probably wouldn't cool too quickly (maybe you should give the carton dimensions, refrigerator temperature and room temperature to the physics/math folks around here and let them calculate the time it reached that "danger zone" HRW mentioned and how long it was at that temperature...the milk in the middle is probably just fine :biggrin:).

I wouldn't save it though, it'll probably spoil pretty quickly after sitting out that long once any bacteria got a chance to start growing.

Kids walk around with sippy cups filled with milk about that long, and probably a lot warmer in their grubby little hands.

Oh...and if you experience nausea, vomiting and diarrhea tomorrow, it probably was sitting out too long. :tongue:

[honestrosewater]

Oh, did you know that 1% has only 20 fewer (kilo)calories per cup than 2%? That really disappointed me. Maybe I'm strange. I wonder if I could have figured that out -- don't the percentages refer to fat content or something?

[honestrosewater]

Oh, if you're going to drink it, put it in the freezer for a while to bring the temp down ASAP.

[Evo]

It's fine to drink.

[JasonRox]

I left milk out all night and still drank it after it was cool again.

[TheStatutoryApe]

I think it should be ok. At most coffee houses they don't even pay that much attention to keeping the milk they are using refrigerated (the particular jug in use). When I worked at one putting the milk back in the fridge was always one of the first things I did when I started my shift. Ofcourse we steamed the milk before giving it to customers so that may have killed anything in it.

[honestrosewater]

I think it should be ok. At most coffee houses they don't even pay that much attention to keeping the milk they are using refrigerated (the particular jug in use). When I worked at one putting the milk back in the fridge was always one of the first things I did when I started my shift.:yuck: And thank you.
Ofcourse we steamed the milk before giving it to customers so that may have killed anything in it.But if the bacteria produced toxins...
I'm not sure about what is in or grows in milk, but that's how you can still get sick from food that was properly handled and cooked. The only examples I know of don't involve bacteria; they involve seafood, especially big fish, in which the toxins become concentrated as the big fish eats lots of smaller fish that ate lots of smaller fish that ate lots of the little protozoans that produce the toxins.

[Homer Simpson]

It's definately fine. I dont think you can get very sick even if big milk chunks are floating around.

However, if in doubt. I have a theory that you can eat just about any amount of bacteria ridden food when really hammered and have no ill effects. In college, after a long evening at the bar, I was rooting through my buddies fridge in thier house. This was in december and I found some cold cut roast beef in the fridge with best before date of december. However it turned out to be december the year before!! It had a major slime coating, but I must have ate about a quarter pound before I realized what was up in my drunken state!

[Evo]

Oh, who was it here that was drunk, ate some donuts they found in a fridge in someone's garage and then woke up in the morning with their hands and mouth covered with green powder? That and the pickled squirrel head still gives me nightmares. :surprised

[Moonbear]

Forget the milk, this thread is making me sick. :yuck:

[Astronuc]

Milk is fine. As far as I know, there are no harmful bacteria in pasteurized milk, even if it sits out overnight.

[rachmaninoff]

This thread is past its expiration date.

:yuck:

[Math Is Hard]

Oh, who was it here that was drunk, ate some donuts they found in a fridge in someone's garage and then woke up in the morning with their hands and mouth covered with green powder? That and the pickled squirrel head still gives me nightmares. :surprised
You can thank Chronos for both of those.

[Greg Bernhardt]

To break the suspense, I ended up tossing it and buying a new cartoon :smile:

[Moonbear]

To break the suspense, I ended up tossing it and buying a new cartoon :smile:
Cartoons are fun and all, but maybe you should have picked up some milk while you were out too. :biggrin:

[Greg Bernhardt]

Cartoons are fun and all, but maybe you should have picked up some milk while you were out too. :biggrin:

you miss are now on probation!!! :devil:

[Moonbear]

you miss are now on probation!!! :devil:
Evo, crank up the presses! I think I might need a LOT of GOOBF cards really soon! :bugeye: :eek: :rofl:

[Moonbear]

"Get out of bed free" cards? moonbear I thought we agreed to keep this strickly professional :biggrin:

Sorry dear, I must be ovulating. :biggrin:

(And...what tricks are you up to now? My first attempt to quote you got a message that said "this forum not accepting new posts." :eek:)

Edit: Ha ha...I got the quote before you got it deleted! :tongue:

[Greg Bernhardt]

(And...what tricks are you up to now? My first attempt to quote you got a message that said "this forum not accepting new posts." :eek:)

Edit: Ha ha...I got the quote before you got it deleted! :tongue:

Maybe you're now in the "fun" usergroup, oops... :wink: :biggrin:

edit: stop editing!! lol

[honestrosewater]

I hate to interrupt you two, but are there any Get Into Bed Free cards, and if so, where can my friend get some?

A dozen should be enough for now.

[Moonbear]

I hate to interrupt you two, but are there any Get Into Bed Free cards, and if so, where can my friend get some?
Your friend, huh? :uhh: :rolleyes:

I only asked for private lessons on double-clicking. :rofl:

[Math Is Hard]

Your friend, huh? :uhh: :rolleyes:
she meant me. :biggrin:

[Moonbear]

she meant me. :biggrin:
Ah. And which friend are you going to ask for them for? We know Greg has milk, anyone else have the kahlua?

[Mk]

[edit:I like to bang sticks on my upper left forehead.]

[honestrosewater]

she meant me. :biggrin:And you want two dozen instead? MIH, you minx.

[Greg Bernhardt]

Ah. And which friend are you going to ask for them for? We know Greg has milk, anyone else have the kahlua?
uhhh hello, white russians are like my fav drink, of course I have kahlua! but you're still on probation, you can have this flat coke. :devil:

[Moonbear]

uhhh hello, white russians are like my fav drink, of course I have kahlua! but you're still on probation, you can have this flat coke. :devil:
:frown: I sowwy. Can I at least have a flat Pepsi?

[TheStatutoryApe]

uhhh hello, white russians are like my fav drink, of course I have kahlua! but you're still on probation, you can have this flat coke. :devil:
Psst... you forgot to tell her to go to your room.:wink:

[Moonbear]

Psst... you forgot to tell her to go to your room.:wink:
*perk* What's that? Could you say it a little louder? I couldn't quite hear you. :tongue2:

[honestrosewater]

Psst... you forgot to tell her to go to your room.:wink:That actually works sometimes too. Seriously.

[Greg Bernhardt]

oh the things that can come from talking about spoiling milk. I haven't had this much fun since aol chatrooms in 95 :biggrin:

[Moonbear]

That actually works sometimes too. Seriously.
But only if you're very very bad. :devil:

[Moonbear]

oh the things that can come from talking about spoiling milk. I haven't had this much fun since aol chatrooms in 95 :biggrin:
Well, it is GD! You never know what might happen in here.

Just look at this...it's Greg and all the PF women in here.

[Greg Bernhardt]

Well, it is GD! You never know what might happen in here.

Just look at this...it's Greg and all the PF women in here.

Apparently I need start hanging out in GD more often... and start up the PF Dating service, I could make a fortune :)

[Moonbear]

Apparently I need start hanging out in GD more often... and start up the PF Dating service, I could make a fortune :)
Hey, I keep asking for a PF Dating Service. I tried that thread once, but forgot to make the poll public so people who know who was actually available. :redface: :rofl:

[Math Is Hard]

And you want two dozen instead? MIH, you minx.
well, you know me. I always want more. Give me a cubic meter, and I'll ask for a dekaliter.

*waits for Pengwuino's wrath*:biggrin:

[Moonbear]

well, you know me. I always want more. Give me a cubic meter, and I'll ask for a dekaliter.
Well now you're just showing off with that fancy degree you got there. :biggrin:

[Math Is Hard]

Well now you're just showing off with that fancy degree you got there. :biggrin:
Hmmph! I've read numerous articles that guffaw at the little kitty who received his credentials online from a dubious institution. Yet, none of them mention the fact that he now commands a six-figure salary as a consultant with Ernst and Young (possessing a key to the Executive Litterbox, to boot). :rofl:

[honestrosewater]

Apparently I need start hanging out in GD more often... and start up the PF Dating service, I could make a fortune :)That's right. I don't come cheaply.

(Heh. I don't mean anything indecent by that. o:) And if you think I did, it wasn't my words but your interpretation. :devil:)

[honestrosewater]

Hey, I keep asking for a PF Dating Service. I tried that thread once, but forgot to make the poll public so people who know who was actually available. :redface: :rofl:I think that's actually a good idea. Someone was just asking how you let people know that you're "looking".

[Moonbear]

I think that's actually a good idea. Someone was just asking how you let people know that you're "looking".
Yeah, Hurkyl and me. I'm sure it'll be a great service, 10,000 men and 6 women signed up...yep, the odds sound about right to me. :approve:

[Greg Bernhardt]

Yeah, Hurkyl and me. I'm sure it'll be a great service, 10,000 men and 6 women signed up...yep, the odds sound about right to me. :approve:

As long as I can code the system to my advantage it's all good. One minute it's 10,000 to 6 and the next 1 to 6 :biggrin:

[TheStatutoryApe]

Yeah, Hurkyl and me. I'm sure it'll be a great service, 10,000 men and 6 women signed up...yep, the odds sound about right to me. :approve:
With those odds you'll have plenty of men jumping ship.

[Moonbear]

As long as I can code the system to my advantage it's all good. One minute it's 10,000 to 6 and the next 1 to 6 :biggrin:
:rofl:

With those odds you'll have plenty of men jumping ship.
Well, perseverance is one of the screening traits. :approve:

[TheStatutoryApe]

Well, perseverance is one of the screening traits. :approve:
It has nothing to do with perseverance. You hang out around 10,000 guys all trying to hook up with one of only six girls and tell me how long you lasted. I think you'd pick someone just to get the hell outta there.:wink:

[Moonbear]

It has nothing to do with perseverance. You hang out around 10,000 guys all trying to hook up with one of only six girls and tell me how long you lasted. I think you'd pick someone just to get the hell outta there.:wink:
:rofl: Maybe I'd just stand back and watch the melee, and do it the old survival of the fittest way. :biggrin:

[honestrosewater]

Yeah, Hurkyl and me. I'm sure it'll be a great service, 10,000 men and 6 women signed up...yep, the odds sound about right to me. :approve:Yeah, I know it was Hurkyl. I think he's cute too.

Hm, remind me not to drink and post at the same time.

[honestrosewater]

I think TSA and Greg are cute too.

Yeah, someone had better shut me up soon.

[Greg Bernhardt]

I think TSA and Greg are cute too.
Yeah, someone had better shut me up soon.

oh I'll shut you up... now go to my room!!!!! :biggrin:

(sorry, my protein shake gets me a little loopy)

[Mk]

Just stopping by... interesting discussion.

What do you mean by "protein shake," are you shaking protein??

[Greg Bernhardt]

What do you mean by "protein shake," are you shaking protein??

To prepare for the upcoming spring soccer league I'm starting my training early. I bought 20 pounds of a powdered protein substance that I mix into milk and it gives me an easy 30g of protein. I drink 2 a day. As a side effect it also gives me a very hairy complection as you can see from my recent mug shot on the left.

[Mk]

20 pounds of a powdered protein substance that I mix into milk and it gives me an easy 30g of protein. I drink 2 a day.Wow, twenty pounds, I'm surprised anybody can carry that. And I bet there is more milk than protein, so... that's an at least 40 pound drink. You must have a big stomach. And two a day! High metabolism to accompany.

[honestrosewater]

To prepare for the upcoming spring soccer league I'm starting my training early. I bought 20 pounds of a powdered protein substance that I mix into milk and it gives me an easy 30g of protein. I drink 2 a day. As a side effect it also gives me a very hairy complection as you can see from my recent mug shot on the left.So does that 20 calories/cup difference between 1% and 2% disappoint you too? I mean, shouldn't it be more? That's not much, 20 calories...

Hm, or am I still just strange?

[honestrosewater]

oh I'll shut you up... now go to my room!!!!! :biggrin:
(sorry, my protein shake gets me a little loopy)Um, I'm not ignoring this, BTW. I just can't reply, wink wink.

[Schrodinger's Dog]

Has anyone ever noticed that slightly off milk smells and tastes slightly of strawberry I always thought that was odd? Good bench test make a cup of tea/coffee, put some milk in if it curdles bin it, if it doesnt drink it. Works for me. Barring a thunderstorm or a witch walking past or Cane or Satan, leaving large quantities of chilled stuff out for a few hours will do no real harm, that's just thermodynamics for you:wink: :tongue:

[Mk]

Oh c'mon, I was hoping somebody that wasn't in gold or blue or green would post.

I think old milk does not taste good. One time I took I big drink, and whew was that bad!

[honestrosewater]

I really wish some magician would make this thread disappear. :redface:

So, Mk, you think bad milk tastes bad, huh? That's quite a revelation.

[Evo]

I'm a bit amazed at the number of pages a thread on milk has gotten.

[honestrosewater]

Yeah, imagine if it was chocolate milk. :bugeye:

[Mk]

Whoa. Just imagine.

[honestrosewater]

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one

[Schrodinger's Dog]

Yeah, imagine if it was chocolate milk. :bugeye:

Can someone start a thread on chocolate milk? There are serious implications at issue, the whole chocolate and milk dichotomy and the implications to diet and the underlying psychosexual implications. This needs to be Raised!!!:tongue2: :wink:

Ok threads up, just don't say I've never contributed anything to serious debate on these forums.

[dav2008]

I left 1/2 gallon of 1% milk out for nearly three hours. Still felt chilled. Think I should drink it? I really don't want to go out to the store tonight!
Don't do it!:surprised

[honestrosewater]

Don't do it!:surprisedWhoa, just in the nick of time.

[Moonbear]

Whoa, just in the nick of time.
:rofl: Yeah, if it's still sitting out, I'd say don't even touch it let alone drink it! :yuck:

[franznietzsche]

Personally I wouldn't drink it. i'm really finicky about my milk. I can taste the difference after a few minutes. It may just be in my head, but if it doesn't taste just right, I won't drink it at all.

[Mk]

Yeah of course it is in your head. But me too. :biggrin:

[Moonbear]

Personally I wouldn't drink it. i'm really finicky about my milk. I can taste the difference after a few minutes. It may just be in my head, but if it doesn't taste just right, I won't drink it at all.

I'm like that too. I like my milk ice-cold from the fridge. If it sits out just a few minutes and starts to get warm, it doesn't taste the same to me and I don't like it. But, the funny thing is, if I heat it on the stove, then I like warm milk. So, I'm not sure what it is about the more tepid milk that I don't like. But it's still okay in coffee.

[franznietzsche]

I'm like that too. I like my milk ice-cold from the fridge. If it sits out just a few minutes and starts to get warm, it doesn't taste the same to me and I don't like it. But, the funny thing is, if I heat it on the stove, then I like warm milk. So, I'm not sure what it is about the more tepid milk that I don't like. But it's still okay in coffee.

Exactly. Once it warms up at all it tastes different.

[Gokul43201]

The right time to drink milk is after it's been kept out just long enough that the CO2 produced by the bacteria causes the jug to inflate like a balloon. :biggrin:

[honestrosewater]

Perhaps colder means less evaporation so you don't 'taste' (smell) it as much. If that were true, then I imagine you guys wouldn't swish the milk around in your mouth. True or false?

Of course, even if you don't swish it, I'm not sure how to explain your liking warm/hot milk. Maybe it's just some inbetween taste that you don't like. Hm.

It might also be disgust, which is presumably (over)protecting you from spoiled milk. This page (http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jdh6n/disgustscale.html) links to some interesting articles on disgust, which propose that disgust began as revulsion at the prospect of oral incorporation of an offensive object. I like this explanation better. Do you guys feel disgust?

[BobG]

I left 1/2 gallon of 1% milk out for nearly three hours. Still felt chilled. Think I should drink it? I really don't want to go out to the store tonight!
Geez, it's been sitting out for over two months now! Just drink it and get it over with!

Uh, :uhh: , you might need to drink it with a fork.

[Math Is Hard]

mmmmm.. save me a slice of milk!!!