Understanding the Effects of Salt Water on Pressure Testing for Plastic Pieces

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The discussion revolves around the effects of salt water on pressure testing for plastic pieces within a pressure chamber. Participants explore how the presence of salt water and the addition of compressed air influence the pressure experienced by the plastic parts during testing.

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  • One participant inquires whether the pressure felt by plastic pieces submerged in salt water would be 20psi when the chamber is pressurized to that level, and how sealing the container with air might affect this.
  • Another participant explains that the pressure at the bottom of a salt water column depends on its height, noting that a 33' column would exert 14.7psi, and that adding 20psi of air would result in a total pressure of 34.7psi at the bottom.
  • A different participant likens the situation to a ball of water in a box of air, suggesting that the incompressibility of water means the water pressure would equal the air pressure if the 'ball' were flexible.
  • Another contribution emphasizes that the pressure exerted by the water is determined by the height of the water column, and any additional air pressure would increase the total pressure experienced by the plastic pieces.

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Participants present varying interpretations of how pressure is transmitted through the salt water and the role of air pressure, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus.

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Some assumptions regarding the height of the salt water column and the compressibility of air and water are not explicitly defined, which may affect the calculations and interpretations presented.

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I am trying to subject some plastic pieces to temperature and pressure testing while the parts are in a container of salt water. I have a pressure chamber that is pumped to a desired pressure with compressed air.

If I put the pieces in the container of salt water in the chamber and then pump it to 20psi, will the pressure felt by the parts be 20psi, or does the salt water affect the pressure the parts feel? Does that change if I seal the container with some air above the salt water?

Thanks.
 
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If you had a container filled with salt water 33' high the pressure at the bottom would be 14.7psi. If the container was open to the air, the pressure at the bottom would be 29.4 psi. Pumping in compressed air would result in a rise in pressure equal to the pressure of the air plus the 14.7 psi of the water.

If you pumped in 20psi of air, as you suggest, then the pressure at the bottom would be 34.7psi. Thats assuming a 33' water column. You can do the math to adjust the pressure the water adds if the column is less than 33'. For example, a water column half as high (16.5') would be (7.35psi).
 
If I get what you are saying, its like a ball of water in a box of air which you can pressurize?? Since water is incompressable, I think the water pressure would equal that of the air pressure assuming the 'ball' was made of flexible material.
 
The water exerts a pressure all by it's self, depending on the height of the water column. Any air pressuer you add on top of the water will add to the total pressure. As far as the container expanding, that is not necessary as the air is compressable.
 

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