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fannemel
Jan14-04, 01:12 PM
z1 = x + iy
z2 = x - iy
(Complex conjugate)

Find:
Im (1/z1)

This is what I have tried to do:

(1) z1*z2 = x^2 + y^2

(2) z2 / (x^2 + y^2) = 1 / z1


The answer is:
-y / (x^2 + y^2) = Im (1 / z1)

So my question is:
Can I change z2 to Im (z2) and z1 to Im (z1) in equation (2)?

himanshu121
Jan14-04, 01:17 PM
They want the coefficient of i or Im(1/z)

i.e \frac{1}{x+iy}

What was/are ur thoughts???[8)]

fannemel
Jan14-04, 01:24 PM
oops, read another post and found that it would be wise to post my work. And i reckoned that no-one would have had the time to reply so i just edited my post.

But do my new post clarify anything?

himanshu121
Jan14-04, 01:42 PM
No u can't change them that ways. It will defy all the properties of complex number

arcnets
Jan14-04, 03:07 PM
fannemel,
I think your work is correct. Because, if 2 numbers are equal, then their imaginary parts are equal.

chroot
Jan14-04, 03:28 PM
Yes, fannemel, you are entirely correct. Given z = x + iy, Im(1/z) is indeed -y / (x^2 + y^2).

- Warren

himanshu121
Jan15-04, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by chroot
Yes, fannemel, you are entirely correct. Given z = x + iy, Im(1/z) is indeed -y / (x^2 + y^2).

- Warren

His Questions is
So my question is:
Can I change z2 to Im (z2) and z1 to Im (z1) in equation (2)?


i.e.
\frac{Im_{z2}}{x^2 + y^2} = \frac{1}{Im_{z1}}
Which is not true

fannemel
Jan15-04, 07:24 AM
what about
\frac{Im_{z2}}{x^2 + y^2} = Im [\frac{1}{z1}]

Would that be any better?

For me that would equal:

{\frac{-y}{x^2 + y^2} = Im [\frac{1}{z1}]
since Im_{z2} = -y

ahmad
Jan17-04, 03:34 AM
Yes that is absolutely correct. You get the imaginary part of the reciprocal of z1, not z1

HallsofIvy
Jan17-04, 09:07 AM
what about
\frac{Im{z_2}}{x^2 + y^2} = Im [\frac{1}{z1}]
Would that be any better?

For me that would equal:
{\frac{-y}{x^2 + y^2} = Im [\frac{1}{z1}]
since
Im{z_2} = -y

That is true because x^2+ y^2 is a real number.
In general you cannot get the imaginary part of a number computed by a formula just by replacing each number in the formula by its imaginary part.

It would be far better for you to replace z_1 and z_2 by x+iy and x-iy right from the start:

\frac{1}{z_1}= \frac{1}{x+iy}. Now multiply both numerator and denominator by x- iy to get \frac{(1)(x- iy)}{(x+iy)(x-iy)}= \frac{x- iy}{x^2+ y^2}= \(\frac{x}{x^2+y^2}\)-\(\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}\)i so that it is obvious that the real part is \frac{x}{x^2+y^2} and the imaginary part is \frac{-y}{x^2+y^2}.