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Hello,
Once again I am having trouble verifying my answer.
Here is the question:
Solve the given first-order linear equation and verify that your solution indeed satisfies the equation:
dy/dx = y/x + 1/x^2, x>0
Now I get an answer of
y = -1/2 * 1/x + xC
But when I sub. back in the the equation
dy/dx = y/x + 1/x^2
It doesn't verify. I keep on trying it over and over again, but I keep on getting the same thing. What am I doing wrong?
Any help is appreciated. Thankyou.
jamesrc
Jan18-04, 10:25 PM
I get
y = -Cx - \frac{1}{2x}
I didn't verify it, so that may not be it, but maybe it is.
EDIT: Just verified it, that's should be the answer; looks like you just missed a sign somewhere.
How did you get
-Cx?
I get this:
1/x * y = integral of 1/x^3
which becomes
1/x * y = -1/2 * 1/x^2 + C
then
y = -1/2 * 1/x + Cx
How did you get -Cx?
Some more nfo.
When I try to find the integrating factor I know that
f(x) = - 1/x
Integrating that I get
- ln x
which is the same as
ln x^-1
When this is to the power of e
e^ln x^-1 = 1/x
This is correct right?
So my integrating factor should be 1/x right?
jamesrc
Jan18-04, 10:54 PM
First, I found the integrating factor to get an exact equation:
- rearrange \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{y}{x} + \frac{1}{x^2} to get
M(x,y)dx + N(x,y)dy = 0
(yx + 1)dx + (-x^2)dy = 0
find \frac{\frac{\partial M}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial N}{\partial x}}{N} = \frac{x-(-2x)}{-x^2} = -\frac 3 x
u(x) = e^{-\int{\frac{3}{x}dx}} = x^{-3}
Now multiply the factor (the equation is now exact, but I'll skip that step (you can check if you want)):
\frac{yx+1}{x^3}dx + (-\frac 1 x)dy = 0
So:
F(x,y) = C = \int{N(x,y)dy} + \Phi(x) = -\frac y x + \Phi(x)
\frac{\partial F}{\partial x} = \frac{y}{x^2} + \Phi'(x) = M(x,y) = \frac{yx + 1}{x^3}
Solve for Φ(x) (using algebra and integration) and then find F(x,y):
F(x,y) = -\frac y x - \frac{1}{2x^2} = C
Solving for y:
y = -Cx - \frac{1}{2x}
which can be verified as the correct answer. Does that help?
I'm not too familiar with the first part. If that is the way you did it then that is where I got into trouble. I am not too familiar with that notation either.
Typically we try to get the equation into a form of
y' + F(x)y = Q(x)
and then try to find the integrating factor as such
I(x) = e^integral of F(x) dx
So I would then take the integral of F(x).
I will have to look over the first part some more and try to figure it out. I might need some help in the first part. If that is not too much trouble.
Thanks for your help so far.
This is what we were shown to do in the text and lecture:
Put into the form y' + P(x)y = Q(x)
So that is what I did:
y' - 1/x * y = 1/x^2.
From that I have P(x) = -1/x.
Now I find the integrating factor I(x) where
I(x) = e^integral of P(x) dx
So then
e^integral of -1/x dx
becomes
e^lnx^-1
which is the same as
x^-1 = 1/x
That is how we are supposed to find the integrating factor. I haven't your procedure before. If you say your answer is correct I would have to believe you since my way is not checking out.
Can you see any similarity to the way you are doing it and the way I am doing it? And if so, can you show me those similarities? If it isn't too much trouble.
Thanks for your time james.
jamesrc
Jan19-04, 12:10 AM
Ugh. We're both right. Well, you're more right because I didn't realize you were right.
Anyway, the sign on an arbitrary constant C clearly doesn't matter, so
y = C_1x- \frac{1}{2x} = -C_2x-\frac{1}{2x}
same difference.
Doublecheck your verification step; it should work out:
y' = C + \frac{1}{2x^2}
\frac y x = C - \frac{1}{2x^2}
y' - \frac y x + \frac{1}{x^2} = (C + \frac{1}{2x^2}) - (C - \frac{1}{2x^2}) - \frac{1}{x^2} = 0
So that works out.
Sorry about any foreign notation/formulation I used. I'm a little rusty at this myself and that's just the way I remembered it. Rest assured that both of our formulations accomplish the same task.
Hi James,
First of all, I really appreciate your time and effort. Maybe I have just been looking at this too long.
When I did what you said and did the verification yet again, it worked out. I must have had some sort of brain malfunction or something.
Thanks again James.
Have a good night.
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