Einstein's Cross: Examining the Impact of Lensing Galaxies

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of gravitational lensing, specifically examining Einstein's Cross, where light from a distant quasar is bent around a nearby galaxy. Participants explore the nature of the lensing effect, the alignment of the objects involved, and the resulting image formation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the basic concept of gravitational lensing, noting that light from a distant quasar is bent around a nearby galaxy, producing multiple images.
  • Another participant asserts that the lensing galaxy is not rectangular, suggesting that the alignment of the quasar and the lensing galaxy is responsible for the observed phenomenon.
  • A different participant questions the expected outcome of the lensing effect, arguing that a spherical lensing object should create a circular pattern rather than distinct images.
  • In response, a participant clarifies that the quasar's alignment is slightly off, which contributes to the formation of four distinct points of light rather than a circular pattern.
  • One participant expresses understanding after the clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reflects disagreement regarding the expected visual outcome of gravitational lensing and the implications of the alignment of the quasar and lensing galaxy. Multiple competing views remain on the nature of the lensing effect and its visual representation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the geometry of the lensing galaxy and the alignment of the quasar, which may influence their interpretations of the lensing effect.

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Tell me if I've got this right ... The light from a distant quasar is bent around a more nearby galaxy, which is acting like a lens producing multible images of the quasar.. correct ?

What's up with this ? Is the lensing galaxy rectangular ? Why is the "lensing effect" producing four distinct images and not some distorted circular patterns ?
 
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It's not rectangular, the lining is just that good, it is an oddity, but one that sheds a lot of light, no pun intended, on gravitational lensing.
 
The lining could be perfect and the lensing effect still shouldn't look like that... If the lensing object is spherical it should bend the light from an object behind it equaly in every direction, which will create a "circle of light" around the lensing object, not four distinct copies in a crossformation. Am I mistaken ?
 
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You took my meaning of lining wrong, its not a straight line, the quasar in the back is off alittle bit, which creates the four points. Actually the light is bent spherecly, but due to the alignment, it peaks at four points, and the other stuff gets lost in space. That is it is so small it doesn't show up, and if you increase the exposure time, the galaxy in front will saturate the image.
 
Ok, I see... thnx !
 

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