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Nothing000
Oct12-06, 06:19 PM
Has anyone here ever taken adderall in order to study better or focus more on a test?

JasonRox
Oct12-06, 06:34 PM
Focus better?

When I'm writing a test, that's all I can think about!

Although I do take a short break (few minutes) half way through tests and exam, to look around and think of things other than the test. Even though it might not be appropriate, sex is the best thing. If I try to think about something else like hockey, it always seems to get re-directed to the test.

Well, that works for me.

I wouldn't recommend taking drugs personally.

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 07:53 PM
sex is the best thing.

Haha definitley not appropriate in a test situation! Don't you find it hard to concerntrate after your brief few moments?

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 07:54 PM
I would recommend not takin adderall before an important test unless you have done it before, it might turn out bad!!

JasonRox
Oct12-06, 08:08 PM
Haha definitley not appropriate in a test situation! Don't you find it hard to concerntrate after your brief few moments?

Depends on who is sitting next to you. :wink:

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 08:16 PM
Depends on who is sitting next to you. :wink:

what do you mean by that?

JasonRox
Oct12-06, 08:17 PM
what do you mean by that?

:eek: I swear! I wasn't cheating! :eek:

"...then what were you looking at?"

:uhh: Um... nothing. :uhh:

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 08:24 PM
Is that what the person next to you would say, or is that what you (on adderal) would say?

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 09:00 PM
Im glad I never have to sit next to you

FrogPad
Oct12-06, 09:04 PM
Has anyone here ever taken adderall in order to study better or focus more on a test?

I used to take adderall (for about 2 years). I got sick of taking it, and stopped. I still take it ever once in awhile to study, and it can help. It can also do the exact oppsite and put you in a unproductive "zone".

As rhuthwaite said, if you haven't taken it before, DO NOT take it before something important. Any time you start (or try) a medication, it should be done in a controlled enviornment.

Depending on your sensitivity, and the type of adderall, it can last anywhere from 4 to 12 hours. Sometimes when I take it, I can sleep without any problems. Other times I'll take it, and if I've had a lot of caffeine (which I normally do) that day, I will not be able to sleep soundly.

Also, when I take adderall, I notice that my math skills drop. On adderall I think too linear. It's good for trying to store a ton of information that just requires you to spit it out, but it kind of kills my logical skills. It was helpful when I would cram for chemistry, and geography. It was NOT good for physics, math, or engineering courses.

FrogPad
Oct12-06, 09:08 PM
Oh I never really explained why I brought up the sleep issue. Lets say you take it the night before a test to cram. You might take it at 2 in the afternoon, and spend all day studying. When night rolls around, if you are really sensitive to it, you might not fall asleep until 2 or 3, or maybe later.

Now if you have a test the next day and you've had 4 hours of sleep, good friggen luck. Also, if you decide to take adderall two days in a row, you can be tricked into thinking you are awake, but really you are not really with it. It's like your body isn't tired, but your mind is still asleep.

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 09:13 PM
What about Provigil (modafinil)?

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 09:13 PM
So i should take it before hitting town after a busy week?

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 09:14 PM
Have you ever used it to study?

A friend of mine (not me :biggrin: ) is studying with its aid as right now. My friend said that it really helps.

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 09:17 PM
My friend tells me it is just like adderal without the euphoria. The euphoria from adderal scares my friend because he likes the feeling and doesn't want to get addicted.

FrogPad
Oct12-06, 09:21 PM
So i should take it before hitting town after a busy week?

It can give some people anxiety. I personally don't like to talk to a group of people when I take adderall, but that's just me.

or were you talking about Provigil?

FrogPad
Oct12-06, 09:22 PM
My friend tells me it is just like adderal without the euphoria. The euphoria from adderal scares my friend because he likes the feeling and doesn't want to get addicted.

I'd really like to try Provigil. I haven't tried it.

Adderall can give you euphoria... but it really depends on the dosing and how you handle it. If you take it for some time, all the "positives" begin to turn into negatives. Again... this all depends on the person.

I think the best edge you can have for personal study is exercise, and a proper diet. That's helped me out a hell of a lot more than adderall ever did.

I've read about neutropics some time ago, and Provigil looks VERY interesting.

Also, how did your friend get Provigil?

NoTime
Oct12-06, 09:28 PM
Used to treat Attention Deficit Disorder and Narcolepsy.

Now there is a combo for you.
Although I suppose you could say that Narcolepsy is failing to pay attention at all.

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 09:28 PM
Adderall can give you euphoria... but it really depends on the dosing and how you handle it. If you take it for some time, all the "positives" begin to turn into negatives. Again... this all depends on the person.

I think the best edge you can have for personal study is exercise, and a proper diet. That's helped me out a hell of a lot more than adderall ever did.



You said it brother.

FrogPad
Oct12-06, 09:29 PM
hmmm... so Provigil probably requires talking with a shrink. I believe it is a schedule 4 drug, so it should be a lot easier to get then the adderall/ritalin route.

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 09:33 PM
I'd really like to try Provigil. I haven't tried it.

Also, how did your friend get Provigil?


He wen't to the doctor and got a prescription silly! Nothing illegal about it. The only grey area is that my friend (just as most people prescribed to it are) was prescribed Provigil as an 'off label' prescription. Meaning that my friend does not have narcolepsy.

But once the FDA approves a drug to treat a specific symptom, Dr's have the right to prescribe it to their patients for anything they want (as long as it's not like oxycontin or something).

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 09:35 PM
hmmm... so Provigil probably requires talking with a shrink. I believe it is a schedule 4 drug, so it should be a lot easier to get then the adderall/ritalin route.

Well, I bet a shrink would prescribe it since most of them are very experimental with pharmacuticals. But you can just go to a regular old dr.; any Dr, and talk to them about it.

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 09:37 PM
And you should bring it up. Just say, "hey I have been reading about this drug called provigil and I think I would like to try it".

You can just say that you are having trouble staying awake during the daytime.

FrogPad
Oct12-06, 09:38 PM
He wen't to the doctor and got a prescription silly! Nothing illegal about it.

:rofl: duh....

I wasn't asking for the name of a dealer so I could go buy a few tabs :)

I was just curious on how difficult it was to acquire. For example, it's not very likely that you can just walk off the street to a doctor and just get adderall. You'll have to take a series of tests, and then to refill your script you have to continue to talk with a doctor. Although... this can all be bypassed. Some doctors just hand the stuff out, but not all.

I just read a little more about it. This stuff is really new! I remember reading about it some time ago, and it looked promising.

So what is the doctors name?

just kidding :)

FrogPad
Oct12-06, 09:39 PM
I wonder if they would like to hear that I drink 2 energy drinks and a double espresso daily.

They'd probably hook me up to a heart monitor.

FrogPad
Oct12-06, 09:41 PM
Anyways... speaking of sleep. I need to get some.

Have good one Nothing000.

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 09:42 PM
A lot of Dr's take it themselves to work long shifts.

Let me tell how my friend described provigils effects.

I makes you wide awake within 30 minutes of taking it. The first hour you feel really motivated and creative. It lasts about 8 hours and for about 5 to 6 of those hours it is really easy to focus on one single task.

It differs from amphetamine in that it has no euphoria. No come down. You do feel slightly fidgety, but nothing like teeth grinding or things like that.

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 09:44 PM
Cool, I need to get back to studying. Check you later.

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 10:10 PM
Are these things just like the anti-socialable version of no-dose?

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 11:14 PM
I can't tell if you are kidding or not. But I would say that no-dose are more similiar to adderal since the only thing in no-dose is caffiene. I know that you already are aware, but caffiene and amphetamine are both stimulants. Modafinil is not a stimulant. It does not make you move faster, or make you jittery, or speedy feeling like stimulants do. It just makes you awake and focused. That is why the government is so interested in it, because they would love to give soldiers stimulants to keep them awake and focused for 48+ hours, but there are so many side effects, including euphoria.

So I bet to the military modafinil is almost the equivalent of discovering a drug that has all the pain killing properties that morphine and other opiates have, but without the euphoria and high potential of addiction.

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 11:18 PM
Ahh well thats a help I mite stick to the no-dose and V

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 11:28 PM
What is V?

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 11:35 PM
Its a drink full of caffine and god knows what else but its the best thing ever. Gives you a good pick up. Its similar to lift plus if you know what that is?

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 11:38 PM
Have you ever tried Monster?

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 11:39 PM
No what is that?

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 11:39 PM
no what is that?

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 11:40 PM
I didn't post that twice I am sure (2nd time today!)

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 11:41 PM
I hate when it double posts like that.

It is an energy drink as well. It comes in a 16fl oz. (473mL) can. Redbull comes in a 8 fl oz. can, and it is the same price. I checked the caffiene content on redbull, and it is like 80 mg. (1 No Dose = 200mg). Let me look it up. Monster is like off the charts on caffiene content. Dude, this stuff knocked my socks off the first time I tried it.

rhuthwaite
Oct12-06, 11:43 PM
I need to get me some of that!! Ahh red bull something we have in common.
Where you get Monster from?

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 11:47 PM
Where do you live?

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 11:51 PM
At my campus they were handing out free cans, so I took one and drank it right before my Circuit Analysis class. And I had to chug it (it's like the size one of those tall beer cans), because I couldnt bring it into class. In almost exactly 15 min, I was SO f'n focussed. I felt like the professor was talking directly to me during the lecture. I have been buying it every since.

And it tastes GOOD. I don't mean good like redbull, kind of different normal good, I mean this tastes EXACTLY like soda pop.

Nothing000
Oct12-06, 11:58 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_drink


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Energy

rhuthwaite
Oct13-06, 12:34 AM
I want some!! Can you ship some to me?

Nothing000
Oct13-06, 12:48 AM
Where the hell do you live man?

rhuthwaite
Oct13-06, 12:50 AM
Umm in New Zealand haha Heading to south africa soon if it makes anything easier

JasonRox
Oct13-06, 05:27 AM
Is that what the person next to you would say, or is that what you (on adderal) would say?

Whoa!

I can't believe you never caught on.

FrogPad
Oct13-06, 05:51 AM
At my campus they were handing out free cans, so I took one and drank it right before my Circuit Analysis class. And I had to chug it (it's like the size one of those tall beer cans), because I couldnt bring it into class. In almost exactly 15 min, I was SO f'n focussed. I felt like the professor was talking directly to me during the lecture. I have been buying it every since.

And it tastes GOOD. I don't mean good like redbull, kind of different normal good, I mean this tastes EXACTLY like soda pop.

I wish I didn't kick it to sleep so early. I wouldn't have if I knew you guys were going to talk about energy drinks. I'm so friggen addicted to them :)



I felt like the professor was talking directly to me during the lecture.

:rofl: I know exactly what you are talking about!

Monster is still my favorite. Here are some others for you to try,

- green can of Boo-Koo (I've only seen it on my campus. I'm beginning to think this is my new favorite though. It's really that good.)
- NOS
- Commando Bear (You can only get it in specialty Chinese grocery stores). It's not that good, but if you are ever in there, you should pick it up just for kicks.

rhuthwaite
Oct13-06, 10:05 AM
wow I haven't heard of any of thoses now I definately am living in the wrong place

Nothing000
Oct13-06, 11:03 AM
There is a plethora of Energy Drinks in the US as of the past couple of years. I think the reason that they sell so well is because they are so expensive. I think that people think that they are getting a better quality product just becuase they are paying more. I mean, it's just soda pop with a lot of caffiene and a few other mild stimulants. I bet it costs 17 cents to produce each can of the stuff.

rhuthwaite
Oct13-06, 11:38 AM
so I should create my own? Mix a whole lot of stuff together and ta dahh

Nothing000
Oct13-06, 12:04 PM
Absolutely.

FrogPad
Oct13-06, 06:00 PM
There is a plethora of Energy Drinks in the US as of the past couple of years. I think the reason that they sell so well is because they are so expensive. I think that people think that they are getting a better quality product just becuase they are paying more. I mean, it's just soda pop with a lot of caffiene and a few other mild stimulants. I bet it costs 17 cents to produce each can of the stuff.

I'm not so sure about the just "soda pop can caffeine".

I notice a "kick" out some energy drinks. I think the mixtures of chemicals really do add to give one somewhat of a mental boost. I recall when I first started taking suppliments how weird I would feel. B6 would especially make me feel different (not in a good way, not bad though).

Looking at the energy drink in front of me (low carb monster) it has niacin, b6, b12, taurine, l-carntine, guarna,... to name a few. If you were to purchase those suppliments individually, they would be quite expensive. So the price might accurately reflect the cost of the beverage. At least I hope that's the case.

Buying all that stuff in bulk probably discounts it so hard, that it really is 17 cents.

Some of the cheaper energy drinks do nothing for me. If you look at the labels, you can see that they don't contain half of what the Monster's and Rockstar's have. Although, this could be all in my head. I've not actually conducted a double blind taste test... yet.

FrogPad
Oct13-06, 06:04 PM
so I should create my own? Mix a whole lot of stuff together and ta dahh

Would you call it ta dahh?

rhuthwaite
Oct13-06, 06:04 PM
You guys seem to have heaps of energy drinks!! We've got like 4: V. lift, lift plus and redbull. We got a new one called Pulse it's just an energy drink with vodka its buzzy as

rhuthwaite
Oct13-06, 06:05 PM
I probably would call it that so if you see it in a shop one day - thats mine!!

FrogPad
Oct13-06, 06:11 PM
I probably would call it that so if you see it in a shop one day - thats mine!!

I don't think so! You will have to split some of the profits with me.

rhuthwaite
Oct13-06, 06:17 PM
You'll have to find me first... :biggrin: and then if I make heaps of money I will give you 25% of all profits

rhuthwaite
Oct13-06, 06:18 PM
If I make one I'll definately make a version with alcohol!!

Izzhov
Oct4-07, 07:23 AM
I take Adderall and it helps me a lot! Without it, my grades would go from A's to C's. But that's probably because I have AD/HD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AD/HD)...