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Orion1
Feb24-04, 02:21 AM
Does anyone have an equasion for the Entropy of the Universe?

Barring my computation, please provide your best equasion for cross-verification with a numerical entropic solution in (J*K^-1) SI units.

I attempted to locate a solution on the internet, however only located entropy for various particles and black holes.

Anyone interested in examining some black hole entropy equasions may click the reference provided.

These equasions represent my classical approach.

T_i = 3000 K CBR photo-transparency temperature
T_f = 2.725 K CBR temperature
r_i = 7*10^5 Ly CBR photo-transparency range
r_f = \frac{c}{H_o} = 1.761*10^{10} Ly Universe range

Classical entropy equasion for spherical universe containing an ideal gas:
\Delta S_u = K_b \left( ln \frac{T_f}{T_i} + ln \left( \frac{r_f}{r_i} \right)^3 \right) = K_b \left( ln \frac{T_f}{T_i} + ln \left( \frac{c}{H_o r_i} \right)^3 \right)

Ho = Hubble Constant

\Delta S_u = 3.230*10^{-22} J*K^{-1}

Does anyone have more accurate values?

Reference:
http://www.aeiveos.com/~bradbury/Authors/Computing/Frautschi-S/EiaEU.html
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/CosmicBackgroundRadiation.html
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101Flucts.html


"We cannot order men to see the truth or prohibit them from indulging in error." - Max Planck, Philosophy of Physics, 1936

ranyart
Feb24-04, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by Orion1


Does anyone have an equasion for the Entropy of the Universe?

Barring my computation, please provide your best equasion for cross-verification with a numerical entropic solution in (J*K^-1) SI units.

I attempted to locate a solution on the internet, however only located entropy for various particles and black holes.

Anyone interested in examining some black hole entropy equasions may click the reference provided.

Reference:
http://www.aeiveos.com/~bradbury/Authors/Computing/Frautschi-S/EiaEU.html



Firstly how does count?..something that is forever moving?

You would have to accomodate every instant..instanton.. and every Futurama?, if only just to get some approximation of what you are counting!.

Mike2
Feb24-04, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by Orion1
Does anyone have an equasion for the Entropy of the Universe?
Well, let's see, if there is no alternative but that a universe exist, then the probability that the universe should exist is 1, and there is never any change in the total information contained in the universe. So the total entropy of the universe is always zero, right?