who has a PhD

[Robert Mak]

Im just wondering that who has a PhD in this forum?

[humanino]

I just had one a few weeks ago :smile: (in experimental nuclear physics)
Thank you for reminding me :biggrin:

[Math Is Hard]

I had a PhD once. But he was a whiney guy, so I dumped him.

*bah dum dum shhzz*

[arunma]

I thought I got a PhD in the mail last week. Turns out it was only a couple of BS degrees, so I tossed 'em in a corner.

[Math Is Hard]

I thought I got a PhD in the mail last week. Turns out it was only a couple of BS degrees, so I tossed 'em in a corner.

You couldn't trade up those two BSs for a PhD? What's the world coming to?:eek:

[FaNgS]

i'm just wondering, how long does it usually take to acquire a PhD degree? on average

[Kurdt]

In the Uk its 3 years full time or up to 6 part time which is usual. Of course thats after you've done your masters degree which takes 4 years. Most other places are of a similar time scale.

[FaNgS]

hmm....weird i thought that master's degrees takes 1 to 2 years max and PhD a year maybe, mostly depends on the individual

i'm doing my BSs in chemical engineering still a freshman

[arunma]

You couldn't trade up those two BSs for a PhD? What's the world coming to?:eek:

That's what I told them! You'd think I could trade a couple BS degrees in physics and math for at least one PhD in psychology, or something. It's inflation, I tell ya!

i'm just wondering, how long does it usually take to acquire a PhD degree? on average

If you start straight out of undergrad, it typically takes 4-6 years...probably closer to six than four. But if you get your master's degree first, then you can chop off one to two years from that. That's what all the professors and grad students tell me, anyway.

[Tom Mattson]

I don't have one (yet), but many of the PF Mentors do (Doc Al, ZapperZ, ahrkron, vanesch, HallsofIvy,...) I suspect Hurkyl does too, that smart cookie.

[Kurdt]

hmm....weird i thought that master's degrees takes 1 to 2 years max and PhD a year maybe, mostly depends on the individual

i'm doing my BSs in chemical engineering still a freshman

i was talking about doing masters from scratch not after a bachelors

[Evo]

I don't have one (yet), but many of the PF Mentors do (Doc Al, ZapperZ, ahrkron, vanesch, HallsofIvy,...) I suspect Hurkyl does too, that smart cookie.Moonbear does. Monique and Ian Smith are both close to getting theirs, if they haven't already.

[Dr Transport]

Got mine......

[tehno]

I had a PhD once. But he was a whiney guy, so I dumped him.

*bah dum dum shhzz*
I know that a piece of paper means nothing when it comes to dating. :wink:

[Moonbear]

You'll find that most of the people here with PhDs don't really flaunt it, so might not reply to this thread. That's not what we're here for. (I'm just one of the shameless ones.)

[Math Is Hard]

That's what I told them! You'd think I could trade a couple BS degrees in physics and math for at least one PhD in psychology, or something. It's inflation, I tell ya!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
(I'm a psych major and that's still funny!)

[humanino]

You'll find that most of the people here with PhDs don't really flaunt it, so might not reply to this thread. That's not what we're here for. (I'm just one of the shameless ones.)Indeed, it seems to be quite a thing here in USA. For instance, someone who wrote a book might notify that he has a PhD degree, like this would give credit to the book.

Getting PhD is not such a great thing to achieve, it is only time consuming :frown: There is no need to be a genius at least, that's for sure, since they gave me one :tongue2:

[Moonbear]

Indeed, it seems to be quite a thing here in USA. For instance, someone who wrote a book might notify that he has a PhD degree, like this would give credit to the book.

I'm usually suspicious of the credentials of anyone who claims to have a Ph.D. in order to sell a book.

[mathwonk]

gosh i thought it was the hardest thing i ever did.

you guys must be really smart, huh?

[humanino]

gosh i thought it was the hardest thing i ever did.It's very hard, but mainly requires hard work for a long time.
I would guess that raising children to decent adults is much harder for instance (seriously !)
There are many things I could quote that I represent to myself as more difficult, mainly because good-will and hard work at those matters is not sufficient, things that are so hard that only faith can have you achieve them, things for which one needs a real passion. Working in third-world countries to help people starving, or displaced due to war could be examples. I'm sure that a surgeon working in a ER has much harder times, in particular in terms of stress. The traders I know (well they are young) might make quite a bunch of money, their stress level is over consuming for the health (insomnia...) If a PhD is hard at some times to get results, it also very rewarding at others because one learns so much, well in my experience I alternated between periods. Some things are just hard, not rewarding for the individual.

[Dr Transport]

gosh i thought it was the hardest thing i ever did.

you guys must be really smart, huh?

It was the hardest thing I ever did.....Raising my kids is hard, but I wouldn't do a PhD program ever again.

Of course I had a guy in my department who said "you'll get your degree, you are good with your hand" that is when I was trying to get my degree in experimental physics. I guess I wasn't too good with my hands, I am a theoretician.

[Thrice]

You'll find that most of the people here with PhDs don't really flaunt it, so might not reply to this thread. That's not what we're here for. (I'm just one of the shameless ones.)Well what are you here for? Puzzles me to hell sometimes. I wouldn't hang around first years & I'm only a fourth year (college). Maybe I should make a post on this.

[Moonbear]

Well what are you here for? Puzzles me to hell sometimes. I wouldn't hang around first years & I'm only a fourth year (college). Maybe I should make a post on this.

To help educate the general public about science, to help inspire students to become good scientists, and to enjoy discussions with other people who enjoy science as much as we do. It's certainly not about flaunting degrees.

[neurocomp2003]

there are open science projects out there to help educate peeople.
I think one is actually called open science. (Do you participate in these Moonbear?).

[Ivan Seeking]

I just had one a few weeks ago :smile: (in experimental nuclear physics)

Do you have all of your romantic encounters in the lab? Or were you saying that this exercise was experimental...? :uhh:

[denverdoc]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
(I'm a psych major and that's still funny!)

Last time I looked into this, getting a PhD in experimental psych is very difficult--mainly because getting into such a program is so difficult, harder by a long shot than grad school in general, and in ascending order of rejection rates: law school, med school, and even Vet school. :surprised

Now they have PsyD's etc which is usu a 2 year gig, without a strict dissertation requirement. My ex had one of those. But Brain science these days is not for the faint of heart.

Counseling is more like advanced vocational/OTJ training as the theories don't amt to a hill of beans. I recall some nonsense about degree of difficulty, and supremacy being: social sciences are not on the map, then biology must defer to chemistry, and chemistry to physics, and physics to math, and math to God. Silly. However, making a living demands more from an astrophysicist/cosmologist than as a cosmetoligist. But then they are in lesser demand.:rolleyes:

[Pyrrhus]

a PhD?? :rolleyes:, i have a High School Diploma! (And in about 6 months or so a Bachelor in Science :biggrin: )

[Astronuc]

I started a PhD and did everything but complete a dissertation. I left to get a job (a really excellent job) and start a family. My daughter was 4 months when I started my first job. I stayed enrolled for a semester, but between family and work (a lot of travel), I couldn't find time to complete research.

Maybe some day, I'll go back to school, but at this point a PhD would be a formality. I'd still be doing the same work with or without a PhD. At the moment, the focus is on growing the business and developing new opportunities, while doing some of the most interesting technical work in my field.

That said, I would recommend getting a PhD if one has the opportunity, and before one has a family, unless one has a really good income or a spouse with a really good income. I got married at the end of my undergrad program, completed an MS and started a PhD. There was a certain amount of pressure to settle down since my wife is 6.5 years older. We moved relatively close to her family, which was fine with me.

[humanino]

Do you have all of your romantic encounters in the lab? Or were you saying that this exercise was experimental...? :uhh:I'm not sure I get the joke, but actually maybe this is not a joke :redface:
Are you making fun of the fact that physics lab gals are ... special ladies ? :yuck:

[Ivan Seeking]

Well, the way that you stated it, it sounded like your romantic interlude took place IN the lab, which I thought may be against school policy.

Just a play on words. :biggrin:

[humanino]

Just a play on words. :biggrin:
Thanks for bearing with my dumbness :redface:
Actually, there's this story [censored] :tongue2:

[Ivan Seeking]

Actually, there's this story [censored] :tongue2:

Hee hee, that reminds of the good ole days on the mobile CAT scanners...[censored]

Seriously though, a big congratulations on getting your Ph.D.

[Math Is Hard]

Last time I looked into this, getting a PhD in experimental psych is very difficult--mainly because getting into such a program is so difficult, harder by a long shot than grad school in general, and in ascending order of rejection rates: law school, med school, and even Vet school. :surprised

Now they have PsyD's etc which is usu a 2 year gig, without a strict dissertation requirement. My ex had one of those. But Brain science these days is not for the faint of heart.

Counseling is more like advanced vocational/OTJ training as the theories don't amt to a hill of beans. I recall some nonsense about degree of difficulty, and supremacy being: social sciences are not on the map, then biology must defer to chemistry, and chemistry to physics, and physics to math, and math to God. Silly. However, making a living demands more from an astrophysicist/cosmologist than as a cosmetoligist. But then they are in lesser demand.:rolleyes:

denverdoc - we were joking. I am a senior completing a BS in cognitive science. I know a little something about the programs. We were poking fun at those perceived difficulty levels of which you speak.

But to tell you the truth, at the undergrad level, I am sometimes a little jealous of the "general psych" majors because they have fewer requirements than I have in my program. (We have 3 psych undergrad programs here: general, cognitive science, and psychobiology).The psychobio majors probably have to work the hardest out of all of us.

[tehno]

denverdoc - we were joking. I am a senior completing a BS in cognitive science.
Well,did you learn how to learn then?
:smile:
Sorry,I just couldn't resist no to ask..:cool:

[arunma]

You'll find that most of the people here with PhDs don't really flaunt it, so might not reply to this thread. That's not what we're here for. (I'm just one of the shameless ones.)

Heh, suit yourself. When I get a PhD (which likely won't be for another six years, unfortunately), I'm going to come here and start a thread on every forum to announce it. I will then write in my signature, "I, Dr. Arunma, have been awarded a doctoral degree in physics, and am thus intellectually and morally superior to the rest of you peons. I shall inform you of this superiority by adding the letters 'PhD' every time I so much as sign a check." :rofl:

[Math Is Hard]

Well,did you learn how to learn then?
:smile:
Sorry,I just couldn't resist no to ask..:cool:


haha. yep. :biggrin:
What's funny is that until you complete all the pre-requisites to "declare" the major, you are called a "Pre-cognitive Science" major, which sounds like something.. um.. entirely different!

[gravenewworld]

you know what they say about PhD, PhD=Piled higher and deeper :biggrin: .


Seriously though, I feel like I have learned a ton of PhD level organic chemistry and pharmacology just from working. I feel like I don't need to go through hell just for a few letters after my name to learn some advanced topics in chemistry.

[arunma]

you know what they say about PhD, PhD=Piled higher and deeper :biggrin: .


Seriously though, I feel like I have learned a ton of PhD level organic chemistry and pharmacology just from working. I feel like I don't need to go through hell just for a few letters after my name to learn some advanced topics in chemistry.

But you don't just get three letters before your name. You get two letters and a period before your name too. Add to that the giddy feeling you get from telling the rest of the world that you're smarter than them. :rolleyes:

[denverdoc]

denverdoc - we were joking. I am a senior completing a BS in cognitive science. I know a little something about the programs. We were poking fun at those perceived difficulty levels of which you speak.

But to tell you the truth, at the undergrad level, I am sometimes a little jealous of the "general psych" majors because they have fewer requirements than I have in my program. (We have 3 psych undergrad programs here: general, cognitive science, and psychobiology).The psychobio majors probably have to work the hardest out of all of us.

Oh my bad, :blushing: My PhD was in neurosciences and biophysics, but ended up ABD due to my parents deaths whie I was writing my dissertation and then subsequently, some life events like those of Astronuc. The MD would have taken only 4. So a waste of 7 years including 3 as a postdoc, but got to do some some pretty cool electrophysiology. No regrets.

[SpaceTiger]

Im just wondering that who has a PhD in this forum?

Give me another 6 months or so. :tongue2:

[Hurkyl]

I suspect Hurkyl does too
Nah. Ironically, just two BS's. :biggrin: (math/comp sci) I don't really have much interest in getting a PhD: I already have my dream job, and enjoy self-study.

[Schrodinger's Dog]

I'd just like to flaunt the fact that I don't have a PhD, in fact I don't even have a degree yet, just to let everyone know. :biggrin: I am in fact a peon: no that's not a particle, I mean in the plebian, proletariat type sense. I don't usually like to boast about it but since everyone but the modest was flashing their wares I thought I'd say something.

[humanino]

I would like to point that, if you want to do an academic career in research, a PhD is mandatory. Apart from that, I know of many non-PhD people much more valuable to perform experiments, even sometimes having really better insights into the physics, than some PhD people.

[denverdoc]

I'd just like to flaunt the fact that I don't have a PhD, in fact I don't even have a degree yet, just to let everyone know. :biggrin: I am in fact a peon: no that's not a particle, I mean in the plebian, proletariat type sense. I don't usually like to boast about it but since everyone but the modest was flashing their wares I thought I'd say something.


That explains those socialist views--classic case of a have-not sour grapes/grapes of wrath :approve: And to the last poster, no doubt. When I wanted advice on how to get an experiment done, first guy I talked with was our resident machinest who didn't even have a BS...but aptitude and imagination up the wazoo, plus the skills to actually build a working proto.

[Astronuc]

I would like to point that, if you want to do an academic career in research, a PhD is mandatory. Apart from that, I know of many non-PhD people much more valuable to perform experiments, even sometimes having really better insights into the physics, than some PhD people. I disagree that a PhD is necessary, but it does make it easier. I was approached by a university about joining the faculty - to teach and do research - and there was an emphasis on the reseach. While I had to turn it down due to other obligations, I am hoping to work with that university and others in the future. Right now, I have a business to build.


. . . , I mean in the plebian, proletariat type sense. I have never cared for titles, ranks, labels, . . . :yuck:

[Severian]

I have to examine someone for a PhD next week. I just started reading the thesis today.

[Moonbear]

I have to examine someone for a PhD next week. I just started reading the thesis today.

Starting the reading 6 days early, huh? :biggrin:

[klusener]

I thought I got a PhD in the mail last week. Turns out it was only a couple of BS degrees, so I tossed 'em in a corner.

Oh my.

Is that YOU, Arun? This is Mr. X. :tongue:

[mathwonk]

starting 6 days early is way above average. you are a good guy. the student will appreciate any comments you are able to generate, no matter how hard it is to do so.

most people just walk in the oral and pass the guy, leaving all review to the advisor.

[Moonbear]

most people just walk in the oral and pass the guy, leaving all review to the advisor.

:bugeye: Yikes! That's certainly not true in the departments I've been in. I know a lot of people that leave the reading to the last minute (though, usually, that's because they know what the student has been doing all along through committee meetings and earlier drafts, so don't need to spend days reading it...it's more a joke that we read the dissertations the night before), but they always read it, and every once in a while, a student really doesn't get passed (granted, they have to really do something horrid to get that far and not get a degree, but it does happen). Usually we catch the ones at high risk of not making it during the qualifying exams though.

[Schrodinger's Dog]

That explains those socialist views--classic case of a have-not sour grapes/grapes of wrath :approve: And to the last poster, no doubt. When I wanted advice on how to get an experiment done, first guy I talked with was our resident machinest who didn't even have a BS...but aptitude and imagination up the wazoo, plus the skills to actually build a working proto.

Not really, being poor explains that, and I am studying for a physics degree, I'm not a socialist, it's just that being liberal in England is practically akin to communism in the US, you don't have a political spectrum more of a political wing :biggrin:.

Sour grapes :confused: what gave you that impression? I'm a little offended by that I'll have to be honest, what gives you that impression? Do you think I'm wondering around going, damn literati, must be less like prole, and working my day around how I can get an edge on the more eductated? Because let me assure you I'm not? I'm like this with everyone; poor or rich, smart or stupid, ignorant or wise,educated or educationless lol I just can't resist poking fun at the foibles of people, it's ingrained in my culture I'm afraid :tongue2::smile:

Obviously the irony was a bit lost on some people. Me a socialist :rofl: yeah right. I don't even like labour that much and there allegedly left wing. You crazy Yanks crease me up with your partisan politics :tongue:

I have never cared for titles, ranks, labels, . . . :yuck:

Yeah like Dr.:wink::smile:

Don't worry I was just taking the P.

[J77]

You'll find that most of the people here with PhDs don't really flaunt it, so might not reply to this thread. That's not what we're here for. (I'm just one of the shameless ones.)I'm waiting for the how many publications (if>0.3) do you have thread :tongue:

[Severian]

starting 6 days early is way above average. you are a good guy. the student will appreciate any comments you are able to generate, no matter how hard it is to do so.

most people just walk in the oral and pass the guy, leaving all review to the advisor.

The last time I examined a PhD student, I managed to make her cry. I still passed her though.

This one I am reading now looks fine.

[denverdoc]

Not really, being poor explains that, and I am studying for a physics degree, I'm not a socialist, it's just that being liberal in England is practically akin to communism in the US, you don't have a political spectrum more of a political wing :biggrin:.

Sour grapes :confused: what gave you that impression? I'm a little offended by that I'll have to be honest, what gives you that impression? Do you think I'm wondering around going, damn literati, must be less like prole, and working my day around how I can get an edge on the more eductated? Because let me assure you I'm not? I'm like this with everyone; poor or rich, smart or stupid, ignorant or wise,educated or educationless lol I just can't resist poking fun at the foibles of people, it's ingrained in my culture I'm afraid :tongue2::smile:

Obviously the irony was a bit lost on some people. Me a socialist :rofl: yeah right. I don't even like labour that much and there allegedly left wing. You crazy Yanks crease me up with your partisan politics :tongue:



Yeah like Dr.:wink::smile:

Don't worry I was just taking the P.

Man I was just teasing/using irony as in anyone who doesn't like the status quo is .... Sorry if it went taken the wrong way.

[Schrodinger's Dog]

Man I was just teasing/using irony as in anyone who doesn't like the status quo is .... Sorry if it went taken the wrong way.

You wanna try using :wink: smillies then, sounded to me like you were serious. On the other hand you could just make what you say utterly absurd as in my first instant.:smile:

My mistake, probably something to do with me being a peon/prole :smile:

[denverdoc]

To my way of thinking it was utterly absurd...and I tried using a smilie, just one of those things that went sideways on the net as they occasionally do.

[Schrodinger's Dog]

To my way of thinking it was utterly absurd...and I tried using a smilie, just one of those things that went sideways on the net as they occasionally do.

Aye no harm no foul, obviously. Forget about it.

[arunma]

Oh my.

Is that YOU, Arun? This is Mr. X. :tongue:

Well you're Indian, so clearly I must know you from somewhere. No doubt you've heard one of my many pronouncements that "I have a degree in physics!" Just think how much a PhD would inflate my ego!

[marcusl]

To vary the question a little, does anyone have a PhD but no Masters? If so, why did you skip the Master?

[petermorrisjr]

I do not have any education past year 10 or 15 years of age,I am not proud of it.I am limited by a lack of Mathematics and many other things,I can only try and think about things without being able to prove anything.Thats what I love about this forum I can see what you people who have put in the hard yards are thinking :confused: