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Aerospace
Mar27-04, 07:04 PM
A 1.59 m long wire weighing 0.0668 N/m is suspended directly above an infinitely straight wire. The top wire carries a current of 32.4 A and the bottom wire carries a current of 24.5 A. Find the distance of seperation between the wire so that the top wire will be held in place by the magnetic repulsion.

Ok. So the formula that I wanted to use was
F/l = (u x I1 x I2) / (2 x pi x a)
where F/l is 0.0668 N/m
l = 1.59 m
u = 4 x pi e - 7 T.m/A
I1 = 32.4 A
I2 = 24.5 A
a = ?

But this is not a parallel wire question, it's a perpendicular wire question. If I use the formula B = (u x I) / (2 x pi x r) where r is the perpendicular distance to the wire, then will I have to ignore the current of the bottom wire? and I don't have the B.

I'm confused. Can anyone help? Thanks guys.

Doc Al
Mar27-04, 07:58 PM
But this is not a parallel wire question, it's a perpendicular wire question. If I use the formula B = (u x I) / (2 x pi x r) where r is the perpendicular distance to the wire, then will I have to ignore the current of the bottom wire? and I don't have the B.

Sure it's a parallel wire question. The current in the bottom wire creates the magnetic field that repels the current in the top wire. You have to figure out how far apart the wires must be so that the net force on the top wire segment is zero. Don't forget about gravity.

Aerospace
Mar28-04, 04:57 PM
I still don't get why it's a parallel wire question. And I am not sure what you mean by using gravity.
could you please elaborate?

Chen
Mar28-04, 05:01 PM
The two wires are placed one above another, with the infinitely long wire fixed in its place. The top wire, which weighs 0.0668 N/m, is supposed to stay suspended above the bottom wire. This would only happen when the repulsion force between the two wires cancels the weight of the top wire, making the net force on it equal to zero.

\Sigma F = F_m - mg = \frac{\mu I_1I_2}{2\pi d}l - mg = 0

Of course you don't have the length of the top wire, so you also don't have its weight, so just divide both terms by the length.

Doc Al
Mar28-04, 05:24 PM
Of course you don't have the length of the top wire, so you also don't have its weight, so just divide both terms by the length.
The length of the top wire is given. :smile:

Aerospace, listen to Chen!

Chen
Mar28-04, 05:38 PM
The length of the top wire is given. :smile:
Oh right... I didn't think it would given because it's redundant, since you have the weight per length unit and not just the weight.

Aerospace
Mar28-04, 06:28 PM
Thank you so much. It still took me a while to get it, but I finally got it!! Thanks to both of you :)