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Jimmy Snyder
Jul24-07, 02:33 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
This is from Ryder's QFT book, second ed. page 37. At the bottom of the page it says that the commutation relations (eqn 2.68?) are satisfied by:
K = \pm i\frac{\sigma}{2}
However, I do not find this to be so. What am I missing?

2. Relevant equations
Here is one of the commutation relations that I think he means.
[K_x,K_y] = -iJ_z

3. The attempt at a solution
Using K = i\frac{\sigma}{2}, I get:
[K_x,K_y] = [i\frac{\sigma_x}{2},i\frac{\sigma_y}{2}] = \frac{-1}{4}[\sigma_x,\sigma_y] = -\frac{1}{2}\sigma_z = iK_z \neq -iJ_z

Dick
Jul24-07, 03:39 PM
Isn't there an i in the commutation relations of the Pauli matrices as well?

olgranpappy
Jul24-07, 06:35 PM
yep,

\left[\sigma_j,\sigma_k\right]=2i\epsilon_{jkl}\sigma_l

Jimmy Snyder
Jul24-07, 08:02 PM
Thanks Dick. Here is the corrected attempt. I still don't get the right commutation relation.

[K_x,K_y] = [i\frac{\sigma_x}{2},i\frac{\sigma_y}{2}] = \frac{-1}{4}[\sigma_x,\sigma_y] = -i\frac{\sigma_z}{2} = -K_z \neq -iJ_z

olgranpappy
Jul24-07, 08:44 PM
yes, you do get the right relation. Ryder is talking about (2-component) Pauli spinors for which J_z=\frac{\sigma_z}{2}.

Look at equation (2.74). That is a boost and a rotation of a 2-component spinor where the rotation generator is
\frac{\vec \sigma}{2} and the boost generator is i\frac{\vec \sigma}{2}.

Jimmy Snyder
Jul25-07, 07:27 AM
J_z=\frac{\sigma_z}{2}.
Thanks olgranpappy, your reply is what I needed. If I make the substitutions K = i\frac{\sigma}{2} and J = \frac{\sigma}{2}, then I get:

[K_x,K_y] = [i\frac{\sigma_x}{2},i\frac{\sigma_y}{2}] = -i\frac{\sigma_z}{2} = -iJ_z just as in (2.68)

I have also verified the other relations in (2.68). I came close to solving it this morning as I was driving to work. It occured to me that there might be a typo in the book and that the author meant J instead of K in eqn (2.69). If I had followed that thought a while longer, I might have come up with the solution on my own. Thanks again for your help.

olgranpappy
Jul25-07, 12:06 PM
no problem. cheers.