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hotvette
Jul31-07, 11:14 PM
Attached below are two cubic spline tutorials:

1. Explanation of the classic tri-diagonal cubic spline formulation. Included are 2 example problems.

2. Extension to parametric cubic splines. Included are 2 example problems
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Drager
Oct19-07, 02:51 AM
wow,

After a very long search in google i found this tutorial.

And it was the first one, which describes parametric cubic splines in a good way.

Thank you very much :-)

Now i can lay streets through my landscape :-)

Cyko007
Oct31-07, 10:29 PM
Sigh....Thank You!

I was missing something very stupid and now I know what it is!

emer
Jan15-08, 11:20 AM
Thank you for tutorials. This has helped me very mush.

harshm
Mar2-08, 02:21 AM
Hey there -
Thanks for the great tutorials - they really helped me! I'm trying to duplicate your results for cubic interpolation of a circle with 4 points and I got the same solution for the 2nd derivatives in the x and y directions. However, when I solve for the coefficients and plot the cubic polynomials I can't seem to get the same result as you - Heres the code that calculates the coefficients (in MATLAB)

mx - x''
my - y''
Sx - x coefficients
Sy - y coefficients
s - arc length [0 0.25 0.5 0.75 1]

for i = 1:n-1
Sx(i,1) = (mx(i+1) - mx(i))/6*h;
Sx(i,2) = mx(i)/2;
Sx(i,3) = (x(i+1) - x(i))/h - h*(mx(i+1) + 2*mx(i))/6;
Sx(i,4) = x(i);

Sy(i,1) = (my(i+1) - my(i))/6*h;
Sy(i,2) = my(i)/2;
Sy(i,3) = (y(i+1) - y(i))/h - h*(my(i+1) + 2*my(i))/6;
Sy(i,4) = y(i);

end


%Plotting the function
ds = 0.01;
m=1;
i=1;
for i = 1:n-1
for k = s(i):ds:s(i+1)
genpnx(m) = Sx(i,1)*(k - s(i))^3 + Sx(i,2)*(k-s(i))^2 + Sx(i,3)*(k-s(i)) + Sx(i,4);
genpny(m) = Sy(i,1)*(k - s(i))^3 + Sy(i,2)*(k-s(i))^2 + Sy(i,3)*(k-s(i)) + Sy(i,4);
m = m+1;
end
i
end

plot(genpnx,genpny,'r')

Do you have any idea what I might be doing wrong? (Ive attached an image of what the spline looks like for 4 points)

Thanks!

hotvette
Mar3-08, 03:22 PM
Though I'm not a MATLAB person, your expressions for calculating the coefficients look correct. Make sure you are using 0.25 for h. Also, for plotting, t should vary from 0 to 0.25 for each segment.

Here are the coefficient values I got for the 1st segment:

ax = 32
bx = -24
cx = 0
dx = 1

ay = -32
by = 0
cy = 6
dy = 0

Actually, this isn't the best way to fit a circle with cubic polynomials. It is better to fit a quarter circle with a single parametric cubic. The tutorial has been updated - check it out.

harshm
Mar3-08, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the coefficients - they helped me figure out what the problem was - a syntax problem - the correct expression for the coefficients are

Sx(i,1) = (mx(i+1) - mx(i))/(6*h)

while I had

Sx(i,1) = (mx(i+1) - mx(i))/6*h

Thanks a ton!

hotvette
Mar3-08, 07:35 PM
Glad to help. Fyi, the problem can be made even simpler by making h = 1, meaning s = [0 1 2 3 4]. Second deriveratives are x" = [-3 0 3 -3], y" = [0 -3 0 3 0] and plotting can be done for t varying from 0 to 1 for each segment.

I encourage you to review the updated tutorial on circle fitting.

hotvette
Mar12-08, 02:10 PM
Attached is an update to the Cubic Spline Tutorial.

To Staff,

Would someone be willing to replace the 1st attachment in this thread with the below? Thanks.

vimspal
Nov22-08, 03:08 AM
thanks a lot buddy.

spacecamel
Dec17-08, 12:29 PM
Hi hotvette,
I have been looking for a good tutorial on Cubic Splines, nice work. I have found what I think might be an error in one of your examples, however. Example Problem #1 shows c2 = 0, but when I plug in the values:
y3 = 1
y2 = 0.125
h2 = .5
y3" = 0
y2" = 4.5
I come up with c2 = 1, not 0. Plugging 0.5 into the second polynomial with c2 = 1, I get y2 = 1, thus resulting in a discontinuity with the first polynomial. I'm too lazy to try to work out the root of the problem, but I figured I'd flag the discrepancy.
Cheers

hotvette
Dec17-08, 07:35 PM
Agree that C2 = 1.0 (typo), but I think the evaluation of the 2nd poly is OK:

y = a2(x - x_2)^3 + b2(x - x_2)^2 + c2(x - x_2) + d2

Update with typo fixed is attached.

spacecamel
Dec17-08, 07:38 PM
Yep, my mistake. I used ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d rather than using (x-x0), etc.
Thanks again for the excellent tutorial.

goslar
Dec29-08, 10:54 PM
For the cubic spline interpolation if we have
A=(x2-x)/h; B=(x-x1/h); C=1/6*(A^3-A)*h^2; D=1/6*(B^3-B)*h^2;
y=A y1 + B y2 + C y1'' + D y2''

What is the interpolation error of above?


For example for Hermitian cubic spline it is smaller than 5/384 ||f^{(4)}|| h^4

cpile
Apr8-09, 02:51 PM
Thanks very much my friend! The tutorial for the parametric C Splines was very helpful to me!
You see, every book I ve read doesn t say how we can relate the derivatives of the actual curve to the derivatives of the parametric equations of x & y. Ok, its easy to proof with the chain rule but what about the values of these derivatives on bounds!! Simply, x'(t)/y'(t) must be constant on bounds, so give x'(t),y'(t) any value you want to keep this ratio constant! HAHAHAH, i feel stupid...
Very helpful!
Thanks again!

$am!
Oct16-09, 05:19 AM
Thanks! Just what i was looking for! :)

ark5230
Nov15-09, 02:31 PM
Any reading suggestion to smooth out a curve using spline or similar approach.

Eddythekid
Nov24-09, 03:55 PM
great tuto, very precise. Thanks a lot

obad421
Jul19-10, 10:59 AM
Thanks
That was helpful

amoskoh
Jul21-10, 08:55 AM
I have trouble implementing the interpolation. not sure what is wrong. appreciate if someone can point out which part I'm wrong. Im pretty sure I have the coefficients correct but somehow im using the spline equations incorrectly (my guess).
So here are my original x and y
x y
0.90 1.30
1.30 1.50
1.90 1.85
2.10 2.10
3.00 1.95
3.80 0.40
4.30 0.25

Here are my coefficients
a b c d
Equation 1 -0.282 0.000 0.545 1.30
Equation 2 1.046 -0.338 0.410 1.50
Equation 3 -4.815 1.545 1.134 1.85
Equation 4 -0.162 -1.344 1.174 2.10
Equation 5 1.757 -1.780 -1.638 1.95
Equation 6 -1.625 2.437 -1.112 0.40

Now If I want to interpolate x=1, my formula would read
y=-0.282*(1-0.9)^3 + 0.000*(1-0.9)^2 +0.545*(1-0.9) + 1.30
y=1.354230991

I think the answer is wrong because I validated it against the utility at http://www.akiti.ca/CubicSpline.html.. Would appreciate if someone can tell me if my coefficients are correct and if i am using the formulas correctly.

Thanks

hotvette
Jul22-10, 03:08 PM
Using natural boundary conditions (f" = 0 at either end) I derived the same result as you. The utility doesn't state what algorithm is being used nor what assumptions are being made on boundary conditions. The routines mentioned in the credits refer to Hermite interpolation. If that's what is being used by the utility, then it's a different algorithm than what I posted. From what I read, Hermite interpolation isn't C2 compatible at spline boundaries whereas classic cubic spline interpolation is. Bottom line is that there are many interpolation methods. There is no right one.

The other possibility is that the utility is performing cubic spline interpolation but is making some assumption about the end boundary conditions. Just for kicks I was able to replicate the result of the utility by adjusting the slope at the first point to 0.811 and the slope of the last point to 2.226. I checked several points in between and they all matched.

Black box utilities are great because they can be easy to use, but a caveat is that you may not know what they are doing.

hotvette
Jul24-10, 07:03 PM
I believe I've unraveled the mystery of the black box utility. It appears to use cubic splines with end boundary conditions called 'not-a-knot', which is continuous 3rd derivatives in the end pairs of splines. See page 5 in the following link:

http://www.maths.lth.se/na/courses/FMN081/FMN081-06/lecture11.pdf

This means the cubic term (a in the tutorial) is the same in the end pairs of splines. If we equate the cubic terms of the 1st two splines, the resulting boundary condition after some rearranging is:

-h2y1'' + (h1+h2)y2'' - h1y3'' = 0

There is a similiar condition at the other end. If these are used as the end boundary conditions, the resulting splines produce the same results as the utility. Fyi, according to the link, MATLAB uses this boundary condition.

An interesting way to confirm would be to obtain 4 interpolated points from the utility (2 end points are given so you'd just need 2 intermediate points), from which you could easily derive the coefficients of the cubic polynomial and compare to the ones calculated using the algorithm in the cubic spline tutorial (and not-a-knot boundary conditions). They should match.

winarto
Aug8-10, 12:02 PM
Hi all,

I have a stupid question regarding calculating the derivative of cubic spline. I'm currently looking at the code here http://www.ee.ucl.ac.uk/~mflanaga/java/CubicSpline.java at method calcDeriv(), and I do not understand what are these 2 lines are for
sig=(this.x[i]-this.x[i-1])/(this.x[i+1]-this.x[i-1]);
p=sig*this.d2ydx2[i-1]+2.0;

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Wins

bwhitejr
Oct8-10, 09:54 AM
Hi All,
I am trying to convert a file that has three arrays of 528 samples into three arrays of 301.
The first is log spaced frequency points the second is the impedance values at each frequency and the last is phase values. I have the routines spline and splint. My problem is the the second to last sample [299] is off scale. The last sample [300] is correct. I know it is some kind of boundary problem, but it is beyond me to figure it out.

fr,re,ph are arrays[1..528] of float

Spline(fr,re,528,re[1],re[528],y2);
Spline(fr,ph,528,ph[1],ph[528],y4);
fm:=Power((20000.0/10.0),1.0/300);
For i:=1 to 301 do
begin
tempARRF[i]:=10.0*Power(fm,i-1);
end;
For i:=1 to 301 do
begin
splint(fr,re,y2,528,tempARRF[i],tempARRR[i]);
splint(fr,ph,y4,528,tempARRF[i],tempARRP[i]);
end;
CloseFile(impFile);
For i:=0 to 300 do
begin
impARR[i].Freq:=tempARRF[i+1];
impARR[i].Res:=tempARRR[i+1];
impARR[i].Phs:=tempARRP[i+1];
end;

nour
Oct11-10, 07:21 PM
Thanks a lot

opera11111
Oct13-10, 02:40 PM
Thanks. It really help me a lot.

toonhao
Nov10-10, 02:03 AM
you have no idea how this tutorial helped me
it is one of the bests that i found

I only wish it had more exemples

ty anyway

FAlonso
Nov30-10, 01:29 PM
Worst thing about this topic is that you get different formulae each time from different tutorials and books. I was freaked out of this diversity before exam and almost screwd a 15 mark question but hope it was all ok

re5tar
Dec27-10, 12:15 AM
By using spherical coordinates how can we get the volume of a right circular cylinder with radius a and height h

niazphforum
Feb9-11, 12:41 PM
Thnks it really helped me a lot on my project that i'm doing... keep up the noble work...lol

angel710
Feb15-11, 08:53 PM
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discover yours. Thanks for the excellent information!
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toastedcrumpets
Apr5-11, 08:49 AM
Hello,
Thank you for this excellent tutorial!

I've now implemented cubic splines in C++ and shared the result on my website should anyone want a reference C++ implementation...

Cubic Spline C++ class (http://www.marcusbannerman.co.uk/index.php/home/latestarticles/42-articles/96-cubic-spline-class.html)

Marcus

hotvette
Apr6-11, 04:02 PM
Hello,
Thank you for this excellent tutorial!

I've now implemented cubic splines in C++ and shared the result on my website should anyone want a reference C++ implementation...

Cubic Spline C++ class (http://www.marcusbannerman.co.uk/index.php/home/latestarticles/42-articles/96-cubic-spline-class.html)

Marcus

Thanks for the acknowledgement on your website!

villapando
Jul5-11, 11:08 AM
Excellent tutorial.

Somebody knows the formula to calulate the 95%CI for the spline?
Thank you for your help.