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wolram
Apr8-04, 07:38 AM
It was 10 feet tall, occupied 1,000 square feet of floor- space, weighed in at approximately 30 tons, and used more than 70,000 resistors, 10,000 capacitors, 6,000 switches, and 18,000 vacuum tubes. The final machine required 150 kilowatts of power, which was enough to light a small town.
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what was it?

Chen
Apr8-04, 07:39 AM
The ENIAC.

wolram
Apr8-04, 07:48 AM
that was quick :smile:

Chen
Apr8-04, 07:51 AM
Any more quiz questions? :biggrin:

wolram
Apr8-04, 08:16 AM
A single link from one of its eight crawler tracks weighs three and a half tons. It stands 21 stories high and its ------ can lift 270 tons of dirt -- twice the weight of a blue whale. Four of these rigs would outweigh the Titanic
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what is it?

Chen
Apr8-04, 09:21 AM
"its bucket"...

wolram
Apr8-04, 10:15 AM
and what is the machine called?

Chen
Apr8-04, 10:18 AM
Shouldn't I let others have a go? :wink:

M__i__    6__0

wolram
Apr8-04, 10:48 AM
Shouldn't I let others have a go?
yes.
i will try to find something more difficult. :smile:

wolram
Apr8-04, 11:38 AM
its over 100 meters long
could travel over 400 km/hr
weighed 540 tons fully loaded
had 10 engines
could travel over land, water, snow, ice.

Pergatory
Apr8-04, 01:14 PM
its over 100 meters long
could travel over 400 km/hr
weighed 540 tons fully loaded
had 10 engines
could travel over land, water, snow, ice.

Mag-lev train? Don't know if it qualifies for the last criteria but I suppose that theoretically it could... might be difficult in practice though.

wolram
Apr8-04, 01:34 PM
sorry pergatory good guess.
Mag-lev train? Don't know if it qualifies for the last criteria but I suppose that theoretically it could... might be difficult in practice though.
hint.... it was built in Russia and was tested on caspian sea.

zoobyshoe
Apr11-04, 02:12 PM
If it weren't for the 400 km/h I would say it was one of those big hovercraft like the one that crosses the channel from France to England.

wolram
Apr11-04, 02:32 PM
[QUOTE=zoobyshoe]If it weren't for the 400 km/h I would say it was one of those big hovercraft like the one that crosses the channel from France to England.[/QUOTE
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close ZOOBY, but it doesn't hover it uses "ground effect",

Ivan Seeking
Apr11-04, 04:07 PM
I don't know the name but I have seen the flight test. This craft uses a shock wave in much the same way that a hovercraft uses a cushion of air.

Very cool.

What is a molad.

enigma
Apr11-04, 04:31 PM
It was 10 feet tall, occupied 1,000 square feet of floor- space, weighed in at approximately 30 tons, and used more than 70,000 resistors, 10,000 capacitors, 6,000 switches, and 18,000 vacuum tubes. The final machine required 150 kilowatts of power, which was enough to light a small town.


It had less processing power than a $5 pocket calculator.

Ivan Seeking
Apr12-04, 02:35 AM
its over 100 meters long
could travel over 400 km/hr
weighed 540 tons fully loaded
had 10 engines
could travel over land, water, snow, ice.

The Russian Ekranoplan
The Russian Ekranoplan looks like an aircraft but it only flies a few metres above water. Translated the Russian name Ekranoplan means sea skimmer and this is exactly what the Ekranoplan does. The Ekranoplan is what is known as a Ground Effect Vehicle, it operates on the principle of wing in ground effect, where the air gap between a wing and the ground is small enough for the air to be compressed.

Born out of the Soviet Unions Central Hydrofoil Design Bureau it was developed by their chief designer Rostislav Alekseev. Several different Ekranoplan's were developed from 1961 to 1990. Since the fall of the Soviet Union many of the design team from the CHDB have formed a new company with plans to develop new craft for passenger and cargo usage. Also 11 small 5 passenger craft were constructed between 1995 and 1997, they were used in trial commercial operation in USA and the Bahamas....

...The largest Ekranoplan called the KM was built in 1967, it was dubbed the Caspian Sea Monster after the sea it was on when first seen by the west. It was almost twice the length of a Boeing 777-200 but as with all Ground Effect Craft it need only half the wingspan. At over 100 m long, weighing 540 tons fully loaded, the KM could travel over 400 km/h mere meters above the surface of the water. Once moving at speed, the Ekranoplan was no longer in contact with the water, and could move over ice, snow, or level land with equal ease.

The important design principle is that the wing lift reduces the further above the surface of land or sea that the ekranoplan "flies". Thus its dynamically stable in the vertical dimension.

These craft were originally developed by the Soviet Union as very high-speed (several hundred km/hour) military transports, and were mostly based on the shores of the Caspian Sea and Black Sea. The largest
could transport over 100 tonnes of cargo. [continued]

http://www.gizmohighway.com/transport/ekranoplan.htm

Ivan Seeking
Apr12-04, 03:54 AM
So I'm not sure if I'm allowed a question but here is one that I think Wolram will like.

It was the first vehicle proven to get more than 188 miles per gallon.

Lorider
Apr12-04, 07:52 AM
So I'm not sure if I'm allowed a question but here is one that I think Wolram will like.

It was the first vehicle proven to get more than 188 miles per gallon.

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What is a hotair balloon?

wolram
Apr12-04, 11:30 AM
http://www.samolet.co.uk/km.html

IVAN, using some kind of ESP i bet, anyone interested have a look
what those clever Ruskies did.
any one have a one?

wolram
Apr12-04, 11:40 AM
sorry i missed last few posts, 188mpg, this must be one of
these super light contraptions purpose built.

wolram
Apr12-04, 01:13 PM
no cant be some of those guys are getting over 400MPG, so a road
vehicle.

wolram
Apr12-04, 01:40 PM
this is a stinker, the best hybrids only achieve 70 ish MPG.
IVAN was this a "special" ?

Ivan Seeking
Apr12-04, 06:23 PM
I'm not sure if I know what you mean by a special. Do you mean is this a special one-off of some sort? If so, no.

It is one of the following: car, truck, motorcycle, plane, train, or a boat.
"It should be specified according to the vehicle type [above] with the year of the test, and the manufacturer.

Hint: the actual number given is 188.234 mpg, but I would think that this must use too many significant digits.

Let me know if I should tell and pass.

Ivan Seeking
Apr12-04, 06:33 PM
Also, I wasn't considering a hot air balloon as a vehicle so if I misstated the case, sorry about that. Maybe I should have said 188 powered mpg.. You can probably coast 200 miles downhill somewhere in the world so this wouldn't count.

Evo
Apr12-04, 10:53 PM
Motorcycle, Harley Davidson, 1908

Evo
Apr12-04, 11:36 PM
a crude thing made of a wooden stand, a funnel, a cup of acid, and some copper wire - what was it?

Ivan Seeking
Apr13-04, 12:27 AM
Motorcycle, Harley Davidson, 1908

Yay!

1908 Walter Davidson scores a perfect 1,000 points at the 7th Annual Federation of American Motorcyclists Endurance and Reliability Contest. Three days after the contest, Walter sets the FAM economy record at 188.234 miles per gallon. Word of Harley-Davidson's extremely tough motorcycle spreads rapidly.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/CO/HIS/en/history1900.asp?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US

surprising isn't it?

Ivan Seeking
Apr13-04, 12:40 AM
a crude thing made of a wooden stand, a funnel, a cup of acid, and some copper wire - what was it?

a party: year 1969?

wolram
Apr13-04, 01:00 PM
Originally Posted by Evo
a crude thing made of a wooden stand, a funnel, a cup of acid, and some copper wire - what was it?

not a battery,not electro plating, something to catch the resulting
element from the reaction of acid and copper?

Evo
Apr13-04, 01:10 PM
a party: year 1969? :biggrin: Good answer!!! and possibly correct, but not what I had in mind. :wink:

wolram
Apr13-04, 01:18 PM
field programmable gates arrays.
invented by G BELL, to turn sound waves into a varying current.

Evo
Apr13-04, 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by Evo
a crude thing made of a wooden stand, a funnel, a cup of acid, and some copper wire - what was it?

not a battery,not electro plating, something to catch the resulting
element from the reaction of acid and copper?It is currently in use today, I am attaching a picture of the original.

http://imageuploader.milbrathnet.net/uploads/bg.jpg

wolram
Apr13-04, 01:49 PM
nice one EVO.
anyone have a what, is ,was it?

kuengb
Apr13-04, 02:08 PM
It had less processing power than a $5 pocket calculator.

But it had certainly more ROCK'N'ROLLLL! :biggrin:

Njorl
Apr13-04, 02:10 PM
1.4 meters in diameter, 2.5 tones. In 1930 it set records 9 miles from Nonesuch.

Njorl

wolram
Apr13-04, 02:59 PM
a diving bell?

wolram
Apr13-04, 03:04 PM
more than a half mile below the ocean's surface at Nonesuch Island near ... Barton and
Beebe, in their diving bell, reached a depth of 3,028 feet yesterday, August ...
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my best guess.

Ivan Seeking
Apr13-04, 03:12 PM
It is currently in use today, I am attaching a picture of the original.

Like Herman used to say, "darn darn darn darn darn darn darn!"

I knew that! I forgot about the acid.

Njorl
Apr13-04, 03:20 PM
more than a half mile below the ocean's surface at Nonesuch Island near ... Barton and
Beebe, in their diving bell, reached a depth of 3,028 feet yesterday, August ...
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my best guess.


Yup. The Bathysphere to be precise. It is one of my favorite words to say.

Evo
Apr13-04, 03:20 PM
field programmable gates arrays.
invented by G BELL, to turn sound waves into a varying current.ooh, almost, not a FGPA though. You probably have at least one of these in your house.

Ivan Seeking
Apr13-04, 03:24 PM
I thought this was answered. It's a telephone.

Evo
Apr13-04, 03:33 PM
I thought this was answered. It's a telephone.Yes, I was looking for telephone specifically. You and Wolram can share the honor.

wolram
Apr13-04, 03:45 PM
who's next, if you find this stimulating, give me a what was, is ,it.

Ivan Seeking
Apr13-04, 04:00 PM
I love this stuff. When Tsu and I first played trivial pursuit we were both completely addicted until we had finally memorized about half of the cards.

The parts list includes a transmitter and receiver, a stylus for each, and two large pendulums.

Ivan Seeking
Apr13-04, 04:03 PM
...Bathysphere... It is one of my favorite words to say.

Do you say this alot...while alone...in the dark?

zoobyshoe
Apr13-04, 04:28 PM
The parts list includes a transmitter and receiver, a stylus for each, and two large pendulums.
Alxander Bain's proto "fax" machine?

Ivan Seeking
Apr13-04, 04:49 PM
Not quite what I had chosen but definitely close enough. I assume they were basically the same. Instead I chose the 1860 model of Giovanni Caselli's Pantelegraph - which sent the first facsimile between Paris and Lyon.

http://www.acmi.net.au/AIC/FAX_HIST.html

according to this, Bain's actually made a telegraph, not a fax machine, but I really know nothing about it. Maybe you or someone else can clear this up...I must get back to work. :frown:



A fax machine from the year 1865

The idea of putting the achievements of telegraphy to good use in order to transmit photographs as well as printed texts and drawings dates back to the 1850's. The Pantelegraph conceived by the abbot, Giovanni Caselli, was a system of sending and receiving images over long distances by means of electrochemistry.

The stylus of the transmitter scanning an original document by moving across its parallel lines sent messages by telegraph to a receiver. The stylus of the receiver moving across a chemically-treated sheet of paper reproduced the document according to the signals received. Transmitter and receiver were syncronized by two large pendulums swinging in sync with each other. On 16th February, 1865 the Pantelegraph was introduced into service for the Paris and Lyons and the Paris and Le Havre on to the Marseille Railways. It was phased out in 1870. The machine on display in the Museum is a working model that was built for the 1932 Chicago Exhibition.

http://www.museoscienza.org/english/radio/telefax.html

Evo
Apr13-04, 06:17 PM
who's next, if you find this stimulating, give me a what was, is ,it.Wolram, this is a great thread. I love learning stuff this way. :smile:

Evo
Apr13-04, 07:12 PM
Introduced in 1954. It measures 5 x 3 x 1 1/4 inches, weighs 12 ounces, and contains four germanium transistors.

Nereid
Apr13-04, 07:30 PM
'transistor radio' - Regent?

Nereid
Apr13-04, 07:36 PM
brass cylinder (approx), 6' in diameter, 8 'feet'

Evo
Apr13-04, 08:09 PM
'transistor radio' - Regent?YES!!! You even got the maker correct!!

Ivan Seeking
Apr14-04, 04:35 AM
brass cylinder (approx), 6' in diameter, 8 'feet'

Okay a wild one here but it makes sense in a cryptic way.

The church of the ascension?

Nereid
Apr14-04, 05:58 AM
brass cylinder (approx), 6' in diameter, 8 'feet'Hint: ~100 AD

wolram
Apr14-04, 07:03 AM
roman water clock?

Nereid
Apr14-04, 08:41 AM
brass cylinder (approx), 6' in diameter, 8 'feet'Hint(2): the purpose is well known, but details of the internal mechanism are, unfortunately, not.

wolram
Apr14-04, 11:36 AM
Antikythera Mechanism? its the only thing with internal mechanism i can
think of.

Nereid
Apr14-04, 11:59 AM
brass cylinder (approx), 6' in diameter, 8 'feet'Hint(3): The 'feet' were (likely) receptacles shaped like frogs with open mouths.

Nereid
Apr14-04, 07:43 PM
Hint(3): The 'feet' were (likely) receptacles shaped like frogs with open mouths.
Chang Heng's seismoscope (http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/seismology/part03.html)

Next: ~cylinder, 7cm dia x 10cm long; <700g, 11 watts when in use

Ivan Seeking
Apr15-04, 12:38 AM
...The RAT?

Nereid
Apr15-04, 07:00 AM
...The RAT?Yep.
Rock Abrasion Tool, which can also make 'flowers' (http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20040414a.html) :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 10:51 AM
This food product was created by a chef in a fit of spite when a customer complained that his current version was too thick and soggy. Saratoga Springs, NY. Statistics say that today the average american now consumes six pounds of the "spite" version a year.

What was it?

Lorider
Apr15-04, 11:09 AM
What is the potato chip?

wolram
Apr15-04, 11:10 AM
pancakes ?

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 11:28 AM
What is the potato chip?
This is the correct food product. However, I must deduct .2 of a point for phrasing your answer in the form of a question. You have been watching Jeopardy too much.

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 11:38 AM
pancakes ?
Crepes would have been a better guess, if you were going to follow this train of logic. In any event, I was curious to see if you or Nereid were going to answer with "crisps" which is, I think, what potato chips are called in England: very thinly sliced potatos, deep fried in oil, heavily salted. Chef George Crum thought the customer who complained about the thickness and sogginess of his deep fried potatos would balk at his maliciously extreme fullfillment of his wishes. Instead, the customer loved them. It became a popular item on the menu. Other restaurants adopted the recipe. Potato chips became the rage, and still are.

Edit to add: This was at Moon's Lake House Resort, Saratoga Springs, NY, in 1853. The P chip is 151 years old!

Lorider
Apr15-04, 11:42 AM
I may not know too much of the scientific stuff, but I know the stuff I stuff my face with. But I digress, actually I liked the Jeopardy feel, where the answer is given and the question has to be figured out. This has been probably the coolest thread I have seen at this site.

wolram
Apr15-04, 11:46 AM
your correct ZOOBY, i eat crisp butties, great when no ones bothered to
buy groceries.
your turn LORIDER

wolram
Apr15-04, 11:53 AM
shall we give a time limit for last correct poster to reply with new WHAT WAS IS IT?

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 12:02 PM
shall we give a time limit for last correct poster to reply with new WHAT WAS IS IT?
Perhaps you, as thread starter, can post a new one anytime at your discretion, but lowrider has the option of posting one when he thinks of one?

Lorider
Apr15-04, 12:05 PM
Sorry, I did not know we had to come up with one of our own. But no sweat, here's one, though it is probably pretty simple:

This formula was first developed by the Rocket Chemical Company and was used for the first time by Convair, an aerospace contractor. It first hit the shelves in San Diego for public use in 1958. The name is comprised of what it does and how many tries it took to perfect it. What is it?

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 12:12 PM
WD-40. "WD" stands for "Water Displacement"

Lorider
Apr15-04, 12:16 PM
Yeah, I knew that was too easy of a question for the likes of these intellects. I wonder if it would have been as popular if it had been called WD39 or WD647?

wolram
Apr15-04, 12:20 PM
good idea ZOOBY.

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 12:23 PM
According to legend this extremely important tool was invented in Samos in the 7th century BC. However actual pictoral evidence is not found untill it was depicted in an Egytian tomb painting from about 300 BC, in a version that required two people to operate.
(Hint: hieroglyphics at the bottom of the painting have been translated to mean "Chisel sold separately")

wolram
Apr15-04, 01:16 PM
minting machine

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 01:21 PM
minting machine
Sorry.

Hint #2: Leonardo da Vinci designed a version that could be operated by one person using a foot treadle.

wolram
Apr15-04, 01:41 PM
ah.... a turning machine "lathe".

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 01:46 PM
ah.... a turning machine "lathe".
Correct.

If the legend of Theodorus of Samos is correct, the lathe has been in existence for 2,700 years, and is still going strong. It is said to be the only machine tool that can be used to produce another of the same: to reproduce itself, so to speak.

Your turn, Wolram.

wolram
Apr15-04, 01:50 PM
it weighed 171 pounds, diameter 34 inches, 15 watts power max.

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 01:56 PM
it weighed 171 pounds, diameter 34 inches, 15 watts power max.
Too easy: Telstar.

Lorider
Apr15-04, 03:17 PM
Maybe I'm out of turn:

This device includes a wooden bow to drive the drill, a shaft for the drill, a removable tube shaped drill bit with a serrated edge, a center pin to guide the drill and a wooden removable cup to protect the user's hand. The purpose this device is used for can be traced to the late stone age. This tool was used to relieve distress caused by variety of disturbances including parasites, pressure, hydrocephaly, and evil spirits. What was it?

wolram
Apr15-04, 03:29 PM
i forget the name for this device, but it was used to expose the brain, trapaning
or some sutch.

wolram
Apr15-04, 03:33 PM
to date NEREID is the only one that has betten us do we give her a star or
something, smarty pants.

Ivan Seeking
Apr15-04, 03:41 PM
part hippo and part cow, these were held in place with springs.

wolram
Apr15-04, 03:42 PM
the thread is open, zooby, said my question was to easy, so come on guys and
dolls give him a NEREID.

wolram
Apr15-04, 03:45 PM
wow ,this thing moves fast IVAN has the question.

Ivan Seeking
Apr15-04, 03:48 PM
While doing my taxes, I sneak in a question when I stop to wipe the blood off of my forehead.

Evo
Apr15-04, 03:55 PM
part hippo and part cow, these were held in place with springs.My brassiere.

Tsu
Apr15-04, 05:06 PM
My brassiere.
YIKES!!! :eek:

What in the world are you WEARING, woman??? Where can you even BUY something like that? (or is it custom made? :eek: :biggrin: )

The visuals on this one are scaring me to DEATH!! :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 05:17 PM
I can understand that a bra might be part cow (leather) but part hippo?

Also, if Tsunami has access to visuals of Evo wearing a brassiere why can't I find this link?

Evo
Apr15-04, 05:58 PM
I can understand that a bra might be part cow (leather) but part hippo?

Also, if Tsunami has access to visuals of Evo wearing a brassiere why can't I find this link?It's part of an ensemble, boots, whip... :biggrin: The hippo skin trim gives it an exotic touch. The springs pinch, but are great for flexible support. I just don't know how Ivan found out about it.

You don't want the link zoob, you'd go blind. :wink:

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 06:35 PM
In about 1676 a namesake of one of the star trek captains discovered an interesting electrostatic effect. What did he observe and what was his name?

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 06:51 PM
part hippo and part cow, these were held in place with springs.
Not an S&M bra, but false teeth. Are you wearing these, Evo?

Evo
Apr15-04, 07:07 PM
Not an S&M bra, but false teeth. Are you wearing these, Evo?A girl never tells.

False teeth is the correct answer? :eek:

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 07:20 PM
False teeth is the correct answer? :eek:
Yes. This is all part of the famous George Washington false teeth story:

Wooden teeth legend not easy to swallow - norwichbulletin.com
Address:http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/stories/20040217/localnews/426517.html

Ivan Seeking
Apr15-04, 09:16 PM
Yes it is. :cool:

Ivan Seeking
Apr15-04, 09:18 PM
It's part of an ensemble, boots, whip... :biggrin: The hippo skin trim gives it an exotic touch. The springs pinch, but are great for flexible support. I just don't know how Ivan found out about it.

You don't want the link zoob, you'd go blind. :wink:

go to evilevo.org (http://www.io.com/~mlangsdo/RPGs/Minis/GunNuns.html)

Sorry, the link is fixed now.

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 09:23 PM
WOW! Thanks for the link, Ivan! Evo! WOW! Who knew???

Anyway:

In about 1676 a namesake of one of the star trek captains discovered an interesting electrostatic effect. What did he observe and what was his name?

Tsu
Apr15-04, 09:43 PM
go to evilevo.org (http://www.io.com/~mlangsdo/RPGs/Minis/GunNuns.html)

Sorry, the link is fixed now.
Oh, thank goodness! I was afraid he was going to link this:

http://imageuploader.milbrathnet.net/uploads/EvilEvo.JPG

Evo
Apr15-04, 10:35 PM
Oh, thank goodness! I was afraid he was going to link this:

http://imageuploader.milbrathnet.net/uploads/EvilEvo.JPGDamn, I didn't realize that I looked that good in a bikini!!! Just photogenic I guess. :biggrin:

go to evilevo.org Uh oh. :eek: :biggrin:

Sorry zooby - In about 1676 a namesake of one of the star trek captains discovered an interesting electrostatic effect. What did he observe and what was his name?

Got another hint?

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 10:40 PM
Damn, I didn't realize that I looked that good in a bikini!!! Just photogenic I guess.
What does this say? Sorry, I am nearly blind now.
Got another hint?
It involved the element mercury.

Evo
Apr15-04, 10:57 PM
What does this say? Sorry, I am nearly blind now.

It involved the element mercury.I don't know what it's called, but it was the glowing effect noticed by astonomer Jean Picard when he moved a barometer containing mercury. I vaguely remembered this, but I'm more brain dead than usual tonight.

Evo
Apr15-04, 11:03 PM
It was steam-engine powered, 144 ft long and 39 ft in diameter, contained 88,000 cu ft of coal gas, and could go up to 6.7mph.

zoobyshoe
Apr15-04, 11:17 PM
It was steam-engine powered, 144 ft long and 39 ft in diameter, contained 88,000 cu ft of coal gas, and could go up to 6.7mph.
Henri Giffard's steam powered dirigible.


In addition to his famous equations, Maxwell was the first person to make a particular kind of visual representation that is ubiquitous nowadays. What was it?

Evo
Apr15-04, 11:22 PM
Henri Giffard's steam powered dirigible.Damn you're good! Yep, it was considered the first successful dirigible that was controlable, back in 1852.

wolram
Apr16-04, 05:46 AM
In addition to his famous equations, Maxwell was the first person to make a particular kind of visual representation that is ubiquitous nowadays. What was it?[/QUOTE]

colour photography, but didn't SUTTON? share in this achievement.

wolram
Apr16-04, 05:57 AM
it covers approx 900 hectares, and is nearly 2500 YRs old
what is it?

Chi Meson
Apr16-04, 10:13 AM
it covers approx 900 hectares, and is nearly 2500 YRs old
what is it?

The world's largest living thing. A fungus?


Edit: added question mark to sound less pompous.

Evo
Apr16-04, 10:13 AM
it covers approx 900 hectares, and is nearly 2500 YRs old
what is it?Nikopolis? Or Saqqara, perhaps more famous.

wolram
Apr16-04, 02:46 PM
i thought that one would take a few guesses, you guys are just to
good.

Evo
Apr16-04, 03:02 PM
So, was it the fungus among us or Saqqara? (I'm an ancient history, archaeology buff)

Evo
Apr16-04, 03:06 PM
Dating back to 1400 BC it was considered to be the omphalos of the world. It was built around a natural spring.

wolram
Apr16-04, 03:13 PM
So, was it the fungus among us or Saqqara? (I'm an ancient history, archaeology buf
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/869808.stm
Researchers in the US have found what is probably the largest living organism on Earth.

It is a fungus that is growing through the earth and roots of trees in the Malheur National Forest in the Blue Mountains of eastern Oregon

ever been on a dig EVO?

wolram
Apr16-04, 03:36 PM
Delphi. i remember seeing or reading an article not to long ago

Evo
Apr16-04, 03:44 PM
ever been on a dig EVO?[/QUOTE]No. :frown: A friend of mine did get me an invitation to go on one here some years ago, but I wasn't able to due to work conflicts. :frown: :frown:

I've wanted to be an archaeologist since I was three, my bookshelves are lined with every book imaginable on ancient history, antiquities and archaeology. My dad wouldn't pay for my college if I wanted to go into a field of science, he said I wouldn't make any money (my other love is astronomy). So, now I make money and hate my job.

Delphi is correct! They now believe that there was a gas that causes severe hallucinations that was emitted from the spring, which caused the Oracle to have visions.

wolram
Apr16-04, 03:53 PM
its been an un fullfilled passion of mine to go on a dig, we have a program called TIME TEAM on tv, ive watched every one.
i cant think of a what was is it, open to anyone.

Evo
Apr16-04, 04:37 PM
Where I currently live was once under sea and fossils from the ordovician period are quite easily found near the surface. I have quite a collection of brachiopods, Crinoids (one almost 12 inches long), etc... bryozoans from the Upper Pennsylvanian period. I am going out tomorrow to collect more samples.

My neighbors must think I am nuts, coming home with a car load of rocks and sitting with my hose and a magniying glass and camera examining them.

wolram
Apr16-04, 05:17 PM
My neighbors must think I am nuts, coming home with a car load of rocks and sitting with my hose and a magniying glass and camera examining them.
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and your neighbors are probably more knowledgeable of tv programs,
you are lucky to live in fossil rich area, the only ones i see are inbeded
in concrete.

wolram
Apr16-04, 05:19 PM
anyone have a what was, is it?

Evo
Apr16-04, 05:24 PM
These provide a pulsed peak power of some 200 milliwatts at 77 Fahrenheit (25 Celsius) and about 100 milliwatts at 127 Fahrenheit (50 Celsius).

zoobyshoe
Apr16-04, 06:03 PM
colour photography, but didn't SUTTON? share in this achievement.
Correct about Maxwell. I don't know if anyone else was involved.

wolram
Apr17-04, 02:40 AM
These provide a pulsed peak power of some 200 milliwatts at 77 Fahrenheit (25 Celsius) and about 100 milliwatts at 127 Fahrenheit (50 Celsius).
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this has to be a laser the PPP is a give a way.

wolram
Apr17-04, 02:59 AM
two furlongs each way, with gates of solid brass; BC.
what was it?

Ivan Seeking
Apr17-04, 03:24 AM
These provide a pulsed peak power of some 200 milliwatts at 77 Fahrenheit (25 Celsius) and about 100 milliwatts at 127 Fahrenheit (50 Celsius).
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this has to be a laser the PPP is a give a way.

But what LASER? She must have something special in mind.

Ivan Seeking
Apr17-04, 03:38 AM
two furlongs each way, with gates of solid brass; BC.
what was it?

The stadium at Olympia?

wolram
Apr17-04, 03:58 AM
But what LASER? She must have something special in mind.
hmmmmmmmm didn't think about that, and to be honest i dont have
a clue so EVOs question is unanswered.

wolram
Apr17-04, 04:02 AM
The stadium at Olympia?
no, you will have to work religiously hard to find this one, :biggrin:

wolram
Apr17-04, 04:07 AM
These provide a pulsed peak power of some 200 milliwatts at 77 Fahrenheit (25 Celsius) and about 100 milliwatts at 127 Fahrenheit (50 Celsius).
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The new devices, called quantum cascade (QC) lasers, are examples of a fundamentally new type of laser invented here only two years ago. The new versions are about 25 times more powerful than their predecessors.

Tsu
Apr17-04, 11:46 AM
two furlongs each way, with gates of solid brass; BC.
what was it?

Within the ancient city of Babylon, "the sacred precinct of Jupiter Belus, a square enclosure two furlongs each way, with gates of solid brass".

From The History of Herodotus
http://www.bibleprobe.com/herodotus.htm


*my garden is calling me. wolram - take it away!

Evo
Apr17-04, 12:12 PM
These provide a pulsed peak power of some 200 milliwatts at 77 Fahrenheit (25 Celsius) and about 100 milliwatts at 127 Fahrenheit (50 Celsius).
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The new devices, called quantum cascade (QC) lasers, are examples of a fundamentally new type of laser invented here only two years ago. The new versions are about 25 times more powerful than their predecessors.Wolram, you are phenomenal! :smile:

wolram
Apr17-04, 12:19 PM
[QUOTE=Tsunami]Within the ancient city of Babylon, "the sacred precinct of Jupiter Belus, a square enclosure two furlongs each way, with gates of solid brass".

TSUNAMI
correct *** *** and i thought that was difficult

wolram
Apr17-04, 12:21 PM
Wolram, you are phenomenal!

is that some new kind of green fuel :smile:

wolram
Apr17-04, 12:33 PM
which made it possible for the system to produce vacuums exceeding one millionth of an atmosphere.
what was it?

zoobyshoe
Apr17-04, 09:14 PM
which made it possible for the system to produce vacuums exceeding one millionth of an atmosphere.
what was it?
The Geissler mercury vacuum pump with improvements by Crookes.

wolram
Apr18-04, 11:15 AM
The Geissler mercury vacuum pump with improvements by Crookes.
OK you are zooby correct

Ivan Seeking
Apr19-04, 04:41 PM
A little more that 180 feet high, this was destroyed to prevent its suspected use by the Germans.

Tsu
Apr19-04, 05:53 PM
Russia's Zaporozhe Dam?

cragwolf
Apr19-04, 06:53 PM
A little more that 180 feet high, this was destroyed to prevent its suspected use by the Germans.

A machine that generates amusing jokes?

Tsu
Apr19-04, 07:03 PM
Russia's Zaporozhe Dam?
Ivan just came up from the office. He says 'wrong answer'.
Rats.

Ivan Seeking
Apr20-04, 12:20 AM
It was first constructed at the expense of J. P. Morgan.

Evo
Apr20-04, 12:37 AM
A machine that generates amusing jokes?Ok, you made me snort Fresca up my nose. :frown:

Ivan Seeking
Apr20-04, 01:12 AM
Ok, you made me snort Fresca up my nose. :frown:

They still make Fresca? :eek:

I thought that disappeared with Angel Flight pants and mood rings.

zoobyshoe
Apr20-04, 06:00 AM
It was first constructed at the expense of J. P. Morgan.
Oh. I bet it was Tesla's magnifying transmitter in N.J. They may have thought German u-boats were using it as a landmark.

Evo
Apr20-04, 12:07 PM
They still make Fresca? :eek:

I thought that disappeared with Angel Flight pants and mood rings.Yeah, I thought it had disappeared with Tab (remember Tab? :eek: ), but it's still around and I've finally taking a liking to it, well at least when mixed with vodka. :wink:

wolram
Apr20-04, 12:21 PM
He was not told to remove the tower. Tesla removed it at his own loss. Because it was thought it would be used against the U.S. by the Germans. (WWI).

Ivan Seeking
Apr20-04, 04:11 PM
As with so many stories about Tesla, the reported facts about this story seem to vary a bit.

SUSPECTING that German spies were using the big wireless tower erected at Shoreham, L. I., about twenty years ago by Nikola Tesla, the Federal Government ordered the tower destroyed and it was recently demolished with dynamite. During the past month several strangers had been seen lurking about the place.

Tesla erected the tower, which was about 185 feet high, with a well about 100 feet deep, for use in experimenting with the transmission of electrical energy for power and lighting purposes by wireless. The equipment cost nearly $200,000.

The late J. P. Morgan backed Nikola Tesla with the money to build this remarkable steel tower, that he might experiment in wireless even before people knew of Marconi. A complete description, revised by Dr. Tesla himself, of this unique and ultra-powerful radio plant was given in the March, 1916, issue of THE ELECTRICAL EXPERIMENTER. Everyone interested in the study of high frequency currents should not fail to study that discourse as it contains the theory of how this master electrician proposed to charge this lofty antenna with thousands of kilowatts of high frequency electrical energy, then to radiate it thru the earth and run ships, factories and street cars with "wireless power." [continued]

http://earlyradiohistory.us/1917tes.htm

http://earlyradiohistory.us/1917tes.jpg

Tsu
Apr20-04, 06:33 PM
They still make Fresca? :eek:

I thought that disappeared with Angel Flight pants and mood rings.
Hey! Remember that mood ring you got for me? When I was in a good mood it was green and when I was in a bad mood it left a BIG freakin' red mark on your forehead? :biggrin:

Ivan Seeking
Apr20-04, 06:45 PM
OMG I had forgotten. All this time I thought that mark was my third eye. :eek:

Ivan Seeking
Apr21-04, 12:27 AM
You're up with one additional credit Zooby.

zoobyshoe
Apr21-04, 12:46 AM
Invented "by mistake", this item resulted when importer Mr. Sullivan tried to find a cheap alternative to sending samples of his product to his customers in tins. The customers misunderstood how his alternate packaging was to be used. 1904

edit:spelling

cookiemonster
Apr21-04, 12:56 AM
Bottles!

cookiemonster

zoobyshoe
Apr21-04, 01:01 AM
Bottles!
Sorry, cookiemonster. Hint: he wanted something cheaper than tins.

Ivan Seeking
Apr21-04, 01:22 AM
toilet paper.

zoobyshoe
Apr21-04, 01:30 AM
toilet paper.
As good a guess as any, but no. Credit for that foundation of the first world goes all the way back to Mrs. Oock, who first began speculating about a pile of leaves she noticed while...no need to go into it.

cookiemonster
Apr21-04, 01:34 AM
Bottle caps?

cookiemonster

zoobyshoe
Apr21-04, 01:42 AM
Bottle caps?
Sorry, cookie monster. Hint: by tin I mean a box made of thin sheet metal. Sullivan created an alternative packaging to the tin, that was cheaper, but whose use was misunderstood by the customers to whom he sent samples. He decided the customer was always right and "this" was born.

cragwolf
Apr21-04, 04:01 AM
Invented "by mistake", this item resulted when importer Mr. Sullivan tried to find a cheap alternative to sending samples of his product to his customers in tins. The customers misunderstood how his alternate packaging was to be used. 1904

Umm, condoms?

zoobyshoe
Apr21-04, 04:12 AM
Umm, condoms?
ROFL! No. That would be quite a misunderstanding, wouldn't it?

wolram
Apr21-04, 08:18 AM
tea bags, origonaly made from silk.

jimmy p
Apr21-04, 10:29 AM
hmmm wild stab in the dark.... plastic?? what did Mr. Sullivan do anyway?

wolram
Apr21-04, 12:21 PM
maybe the same as A MAZDA. was and is.

zoobyshoe
Apr21-04, 04:19 PM
tea bags, origonaly made from silk.
CORRECT! Instead of removing the tea from the silk bags, the customers placed the whole bag into the teapot and poured hot water over it. The tea bag was born.

wolram
Apr21-04, 04:54 PM
isn't it crazy how one can remember irrelevant trivia, well
i half remembered this one but admit i had to google to
retrieve the facts

zoobyshoe
Apr21-04, 05:04 PM
isn't it crazy how one can remember irrelevant trivia, well
i half remembered this one but admit i had to google to
retrieve the facts
I thought this question was incredibly easy, strangly enough. Loose tea is still sold in tins, so I thought people could follow the train of logic to the tea bag without knowing anything about the actual origin of it. I guess there aren't many tea drinkers here.

Your turn, Wolram.

wolram
Apr22-04, 03:00 AM
maybe the same as A MAZDA. was and is.

Ivan Seeking
Apr22-04, 04:04 AM
that's your clue? :confused:

zoobyshoe
Apr22-04, 05:12 AM
maybe the same as A MAZDA. was and is.
Yes, your clue is quite obscure, but I'll take a stab at it and assume you're looking for other vehicles that have a wankel engine. So it might be one of the following:

NSU spider
Re80
Citroen
Chevy Corvette
Mercedes benz

wolram
Apr22-04, 05:12 AM
that's your clue?
well how easy do you want me make it? BGn

wolram
Apr22-04, 05:17 AM
clue 2.
he who covers, water.

wolram
Apr22-04, 05:18 AM
Yes, your clue is quite obscure, but I'll take a stab at it and assume you're looking for other vehicles that have a wankel engine. So it might be one of the following:

NSU spider
Re80
Citroen
Chevy Corvette
Mercedes benz
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as in mr A MAZDA

jimmy p
Apr22-04, 05:46 AM
The Azram dam!!!! or however it is spelt ...isnt is Aswan? damn!

wolram
Apr22-04, 06:54 AM
The Azram dam!!!! or however it is spelt ...isnt is Aswan? damn!
sorry jimmy.
MAZDA leads to the who was, and to the thing ,that is miles and miles
and miles away.

zoobyshoe
Apr22-04, 07:09 AM
MAZDA leads to the who was, and to the thing ,that is miles and miles
and miles away.
OK. I found out that Ahura Mazda is zoroastrian for "wise lord" or a character from Also Sprach Zarathustra, so this is some kind of mystical thing.

wolram
Apr22-04, 07:35 AM
ok you just have to find another name for Ahura Mazda
to find the distant thing.

Ivan Seeking
Apr22-04, 01:08 PM
Temple Of Zoroaster?

wolram
Apr22-04, 01:27 PM
its not earthly, only its namesake

Njorl
Apr22-04, 01:48 PM
Hmm, other names for Ahura Mazda were Ormazd, which evolved to Ormuzd. Long after, Ormuzd morphed to Hormuz, though I don't know if the diety was ever called this by worshippers.
Njorl

Njorl
Apr22-04, 01:52 PM
Ah, Hindus who were converted in the heyday of the Persian Empire associated Ahura Mazda with Varuna. In the early vedic days, Varuna was the keeper of the celestial waters.

Njorl
Apr22-04, 01:53 PM
...and it seems Varuna is a large Kuiper belt object, nearly as large as Pluto.

Njorl

wolram
Apr22-04, 03:55 PM
Njorl,
you are correct, its a new hobby of mine to associate
celestial bodies with their name sake

wolram
Apr22-04, 04:07 PM
Njorl,
have you a question? that is within the bounds of thread
participants ken :biggrin:

Njorl
Apr23-04, 09:46 AM
Oh yeah. Umm...

Njorl
Apr23-04, 09:54 AM
Contrary to what the name implies, it was made of birch. It was the largest of it's kind ever made. I have a couple hints ready, but this might be enough.

Njorl

LURCH
Apr23-04, 10:21 AM
Contrary to what the name implies, it was made of birch. It was the largest of it's kind ever made. I have a couple hints ready, but this might be enough.

Njorl

The "Spruce Goose"?

Njorl
Apr23-04, 10:51 AM
I guess you won't need those hints after all.

Yep.

Njorl

wolram
Apr23-04, 11:07 AM
do you have one LURCH?

wolram
Apr23-04, 12:21 PM
this wheel has a diameter of 72 feet 6 inches, (over 22 metres), and a width of 6 feet.

jimmy p
Apr23-04, 12:47 PM
London Eye (the millenium wheel thingy)

wolram
Apr23-04, 01:05 PM
good guess jimmy p , but this wheel is much older

LURCH
Apr23-04, 01:18 PM
this wheel has a diameter of 72 feet 6 inches, (over 22 metres), and a width of 6 feet.

That's that big water wheel in Europe, Isabelle I think it's called.

I like big machines! :biggrin:

Today's clocks are read by site. By what sense did one tell time in early (c. 18th century) Chinese homes?

wolram
Apr23-04, 01:29 PM
http://www.isle-of-man.com/information/lwheel.htm

i should take umbrage with you for saying EUROPE
but i forgive you :biggrin:

wolram
Apr23-04, 01:43 PM
Today's clocks are read by site. By what sense did one tell time in early (c. 18th century) Chinese homes?
i know the chinese had a facination for birds, and i think
some of their clocks had birds tweet the time

zoobyshoe
Apr23-04, 05:56 PM
i know the chinese had a facination for birds, and i think some of their clocks had birds tweet the time
And so...by what sense would the chinese have sensed the time?

LURCH
Apr24-04, 08:48 PM
i know the chinese had a facination for birds, and i think
some of their clocks had birds tweet the time

Nope, not by hearing. But you are correct in that properly identifying the device will give the sense.

zoobyshoe
Apr25-04, 12:11 AM
Aha! Sense of smell! The Chinese would speak of lumps of time as "the time it takes to burn a stick of incense."

zoobyshoe
Apr25-04, 03:06 AM
Amateur electrical experimentor, Benjamin Franklin, nearly killed himself with electricity once. Not, however, when he flew a kite during an electrical storm, but when he was walking holding two charged Leyden jars, on his way to do what?

wolram
Apr25-04, 11:40 AM
cook a turkey

zoobyshoe
Apr25-04, 01:47 PM
cook a turkey
So close, and yet so far. That isn't the specific task he was on his way to perform when he shocked himself. It was, indeed, thanksgiving day, however, and a turkey was to be cooked that day, which is a hint.

Evo
Apr25-04, 02:52 PM
remove the feathers?

zoobyshoe
Apr25-04, 10:53 PM
remove the feathers?
No. He was on his way to to something with the two charged leyden jars.

Evo
Apr25-04, 10:59 PM
you're telling me that shocking a turkey with two leyden jars won't loosen it's feathers??? :wink:

zoobyshoe
Apr25-04, 11:22 PM
you're telling me that shocking a turkey with two leyden jars won't loosen it's feathers??? :wink:
Hmmmm. I can't tell if your suggestion he shocked the turkey is a joke or not. Either way, it is correct. This is how Franklin killed his thanksgiving turkeys.

Your turn, Evo.

Evo
Apr25-04, 11:28 PM
It's transmitters broadcast on frequencies at 20 and 40 MHz.

wolram
Apr26-04, 11:20 AM
a turkey broadcasts on 20 and 40 MHz?
ohhhh new question silly me.

Evo
Apr26-04, 11:47 AM
It's a very special turkey.

wolram
Apr26-04, 12:13 PM
sputnik, if my old ham radio book is right.

Evo
Apr26-04, 12:18 PM
sputnik, if my old ham radio book is right.Damn, you are good!

wolram
Apr26-04, 12:40 PM
no just an old hobby

wolram
Apr26-04, 12:53 PM
a piece of coke can be used in this equipment.

Chi Meson
Apr26-04, 01:21 PM
a piece of coke can be used in this equipment.
You must be referring to the handlebars of my racing bike. How did you know I was using a Modolo bar with a Ritchie stem?

wolram
Apr26-04, 01:49 PM
sorry CHEN, modolo bar? richie stem? its my fault i dont
get out enough.

LURCH
Apr26-04, 02:44 PM
Aha! Sense of smell! The Chinese would speak of lumps of time as "the time it takes to burn a stick of incense."

Yes, the Chinese had "incense clocks (http://www.nmsi.ac.uk/piclib/imagerecord.asp?id=10239690) " which were composed of a long maze in which one long train of of several different kinds of incense were laid out. They would light it at sunrise, and house would smell like cinnamon. At "half-past-Jasmine", they knew it was time to eat lunch, high tea was at "quarter-to-frankinsense", etc.

I have often wondered, had this technology persisted, would the date stamp on official documents be "scratch-n-sniff"?

LURCH
Apr26-04, 02:45 PM
a piece of coke can be used in this equipment.

DUH! :rolleyes: ; It's a Crack-Pipe!

wolram
Apr26-04, 03:22 PM
you guys are so waky, will it help if i say that a loo roll
inner could also be used in this equiptment

wolram
Apr26-04, 03:23 PM
I have often wondered, had this technology persisted, would the date stamp on official documents be "scratch-n-sniff"?
lol

Tsu
Apr26-04, 04:21 PM
Hmmmm. I can't tell if your suggestion he shocked the turkey is a joke or not. Either way, it is correct. This is how Franklin killed his thanksgiving turkeys.

Your turn, Evo.
Has anyone heard of 'Popcorn Turkey'? (Sorry j- ust a quick OT question...)

Nereid
Apr26-04, 06:48 PM
A pot-belly stove.

Chi Meson
Apr27-04, 11:10 AM
sorry CHEN, modolo bar? richie stem? its my fault i dont
get out enough.

Bicycle parts. The stem holds the handlebars to the front fork. The size of the opening of the Ritchie brand stem is too large for the Modolo brand handlebar, so I have used a Coke can as a shim.

BTW, I'm not CHEN.

And P.S. "Loo roll inner?" You obviously must mean "Toilet paper core." THerefore you are talking about a kazoo.

wolram
Apr27-04, 11:45 AM
BTW, I'm not CHEN.
sorry, Chi Meson, no excuse.

wolram
Apr27-04, 11:47 AM
btw, its a piece of coke as in the stuff you burn
and the cardboard tube from loo roll.

Chi Meson
Apr27-04, 12:35 PM
btw, its a piece of coke as in the stuff you burn
and the cardboard tube from loo roll.

We definitely have a dialect problem going on here.

jimmy p
Apr27-04, 12:52 PM
a miniature ineffective blast furnace?

wolram
Apr27-04, 12:53 PM
In industrial chemistry, coke refers to a type of refined coal. It is used to make pig iron as part of the steel-making process.
does this help Chi?

wolram
Apr27-04, 12:54 PM
a razor blade can replace the coke.

jimmy p
Apr27-04, 12:55 PM
so is it my blast furnace?

Chi Meson
Apr27-04, 01:13 PM
coal, TP core, razor blade...
Are we talking about a crystal radio?

wolram
Apr27-04, 01:22 PM
coal, TP core, razor blade...
Are we talking about a crystal radio?
correct Chi
sorry Jimmy
your turn Chi.

jimmy p
Apr27-04, 01:23 PM
what have you done to Timmy the Toiletpaper man?!?!?!?!?!?! :O

wolram
Apr28-04, 07:56 AM
Jimmy the loo roll cardboard tube is used as a former for
the coil, in bygon days people made things from whatever
they could lay there hands on, my first crystal radio was
made from, cardboard tube, piece of coke" the rectifier",
copper wire, "for the coil", a very long aerial, 20 Mtrs and
a good earth peg, i had to buy the earphone and tuner,
i used to spend hours adjusting the cats whisker

Chi Meson
Apr28-04, 01:43 PM
Jimmy p is referring to a classic Dilbert episode. Ratbert was traumatised.

Here's mine:

Glass was the original surface for one of these.

zoobyshoe
Apr28-04, 02:20 PM
Glass was the original surface for one of these.
Are you refering to the photograph?

Njorl
Apr28-04, 02:38 PM
Jimmy p is referring to a classic Dilbert episode. Ratbert was traumatised.

Here's mine:

Glass was the original surface for one of these.

Post-nuclear test site ground surfaces? Well waddya want! Photograph was already taken!

Njorl

cragwolf
Apr28-04, 04:21 PM
Trampolines. Then they started getting hit with the lawsuits.

wolram
Apr29-04, 05:51 AM
Trampolines. Then they started getting hit with the lawsuits.
ouch. lol.

Chi Meson
Apr29-04, 06:30 AM
Although "photograph" is a technically correct answer, as I tell my students, you did not read my mind, therfore you are wrong!

Hint: "his wife lent a hand"

Evo
Apr29-04, 07:53 AM
x-ray

yes

Chi Meson
Apr29-04, 09:28 AM
x-ray

yes

Dang. I knew that hint was a giveaway.

Evo
Apr29-04, 10:09 AM
Dang. I knew that hint was a giveaway.Yep, I read that just the other day. His wife had to hold her hand still for 3 hours.

Chi Meson
Apr29-04, 11:15 AM
My other hint was going to be: "he got first prize"

That is, Roentgen was the recipient of the first Nobel prize in Physics.

Ivan Seeking
May2-04, 01:45 PM
Evo? Have you recovered from all of your wild birthday celebrations? :biggrin:

wolram
May2-04, 03:04 PM
oh my golly gosh have i missed a birthday? you are only as old as
you look anyway EVO, what 21 today?

Evo
May2-04, 05:21 PM
oh my golly gosh have i missed a birthday? you are only as old as
you look anyway EVO, what 21 today?Wolram, I love you. :smile:

Tsu
May2-04, 06:31 PM
See, Sis! Birthdays are GOOD!! :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
May2-04, 09:10 PM
Although "photograph" is a technically correct answer, as I tell my students, you did not read my mind, therfore you are wrong!

I just figured out what this bizarre utterance meant.

Evo
May2-04, 11:53 PM
I just figured out what this bizarre utterance meant.Don't feel bad zoob, I had a typo on 93.999999=1 ( I meant 93.999999=94). Integral pointed out my mistake, in a way apparently much too vague for this old brain, and I didn't figure out what I had typed wrong until the next morning. :redface:

BTW, how many of these precious FREE kittens that a stray cat just had at my house should I send you? :biggrin:

Ivan Seeking
May22-05, 01:14 AM
This made quite a splash in 1979.

Ivan Seeking
May22-05, 01:50 AM
Uh oh! That was a bad clue.

...and those down under would know!

Gokul43201
May22-05, 10:05 AM
This made quite a splash in 1979.What was Skylab 1 ?

Ivan Seeking
May22-05, 02:20 PM
Yerrrrrrr it! :biggrin:

On July 11, 1979, Skylab impacted the Earth surface. The debris dispersion area stretched from the Southeastern Indian Ocean across a sparsely populated section of Western Australia.
http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/history/skylab/skylab-operations.htm

Gokul43201
May22-05, 02:53 PM
A slight deviation from the beaten path, if I may ...

What is this ?

Ivan Seeking
May22-05, 04:22 PM
A slight deviation from the beaten path, if I may ...

What is this ?

:rofl: I looked before you posted the attachment and was really stumped! I was hoping that you weren't done yet. :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
May22-05, 04:40 PM
A nano-swimmingpool?

Danger
May22-05, 06:56 PM
What is this ?
False-colour image of a shark waiting for a skydiver?


I dunno. Looks like stuff that I've seen from an atomic-force microscope, but no idea what it's a picture of.

Gokul43201
May23-05, 12:50 PM
Looks like stuff that I've seen from an atomic-force microscope, but no idea what it's a picture of.Close enough (so was Zoob) ! And the sharks may appear in future samples.

This is an STM image of what is called a quantum corral (corral -> reef -> shark, etc.) The cyan peaks are Fe atoms deposited one at a time (using an STM tip) over a Cu matrix !!!

Courtesy : IBM Almaden, STM Group

More amazing pictures and descriptions at :
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/vis/stm/corral.html
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/vis/stm/gallery.html

Ivan Seeking
May23-05, 02:36 PM
That's amazing! I was going to venture a guess but now I'm glad I didn't. :biggrin:

Zooby, Danger, next? Or Gokul could try another one...

Danger
May23-05, 03:08 PM
Or Gokul could try another one...
4*10^19 variations

I know it's not much of a clue, but I don't expect anyone here to have trouble getting it.

Chi Meson
May23-05, 07:28 PM
The game of "go"?

Danger
May23-05, 07:34 PM
The game of "go"?
Noooope... but the math is probably close.

Chi Meson
May23-05, 07:48 PM
The game of chess, then?

The game of Life?

Poker?

Wait, maybe it's not a game?

Gokul43201
May24-05, 06:17 AM
21! is close (5*10^19) but not close enough....anyway, I don't know anything that comes in 21 sizes/flavors/colors/etc.

Nereid
May24-05, 07:05 AM
Human DNA?

Gokul43201
May24-05, 09:03 AM
Human DNA?Ooh nice guess !! Also, aren't there like only 20-odd different amino acids ? ...but protein lengths aren't limited, are they ?

Danger
May24-05, 10:41 AM
Wait, maybe it's not a game?
Sort of...

Sorry I didn't respond until now; I've been asleep. Now I'm going to work, so you're on your own for a few hours.

hint: educational aid

zoobyshoe
May24-05, 11:05 AM
educational aid
Wild guess based on this clue: The periodic table?

brewnog
May24-05, 11:40 AM
Wild guess based on the same clue: An abacus?

Danger
May24-05, 12:04 PM
Nope, and twice nope.
That was a short-lived work day. I got there and my co-worker showed up 5 minutes later. It turns out the shift change we did last week was supposed to be permanent, so I don't have to go for another 3 hours.

next hint: accidental best-seller

zoobyshoe
May24-05, 12:08 PM
next hint: accidental best-seller
Babbages' difference engine?

Dr.Brain
May24-05, 12:10 PM
computers?

Danger
May24-05, 12:12 PM
Double nope again.

zoobyshoe
May24-05, 12:16 PM
next hint: accidental best-seller
I haven't read it so, very unspecifically: the Da Vinci code?

Chi Meson
May24-05, 12:19 PM
Sorry I didn't respond until now; I've been asleep.

Well that answers one question, at least.

Danger
May24-05, 02:50 PM
Nope and :tongue: , in that order.

one more hint, and I'm really going to work now: colours

brewnog
May24-05, 02:52 PM
Rubik's Cube!

brewnog
May24-05, 03:05 PM
Ok, here's one. I'm new to this thread so forgive me if I do something bad...

Clue 1:
First devised in 1941, the final product was a cylinder weighing about 4200 kg. A lot of hard work went into its design, but one of the most ingenious factors enabling its use was an incredibly simple idea.

zoobyshoe
May24-05, 03:14 PM
Ok, here's one. I'm new to this thread so forgive me if I do something bad...

Clue 1:
First devised in 1941, the final product was a cylinder weighing about 4200 kg. A lot of hard work went into its design, but one of the most ingenious factors enabling its use was an incredibly simple idea.
Wild guess based on date and weight: nuclear reactor?

brewnog
May24-05, 03:22 PM
Nope.

Clue 2:
I had lunch today in a building named after its inventor.

It was developed in Surrey, tested in Derbyshire, and used in Germany.

The concept was brought about in order to get over a net.

FredGarvin
May24-05, 04:20 PM
A gun barrel?

Ivan Seeking
May24-05, 05:09 PM
Since brewnog seems so confident I will assume that he is correct?

First devised in 1941, the final product was a cylinder weighing about 4200 kg. A lot of hard work went into its design, but one of the most ingenious factors enabling its use was an incredibly simple idea.

It seems way too heavy, but could this be the bomb designed to bounce on water? IIRC, it was devised to take out a dam.

zoobyshoe
May24-05, 06:42 PM
First devised in 1941, the final product was a cylinder weighing about 4200 kg. A lot of hard work went into its design, but one of the most ingenious factors enabling its use was an incredibly simple idea.
Whittle's jet engine?

brewnog
May24-05, 06:58 PM
Since brewnog seems so confident I will assume that he is correct?

I kinda assumed I was correct too. It doesn't matter now, because......

It seems way too heavy, but could this be the bomb designed to bounce on water? IIRC, it was devised to take out a dam.

Yes! Barnes Wallis' "Bouncing Bomb", as featured in the epic film "Dambusters!".

Very well done, I thought I was gonna have to use Clue 3!

Incredibly heavy devices, but I suppose you do need rather a lot of RDX to take out an entire dam. They had to bounce to get over the anti-torpedo nets which had been fitted to the reservoirs. The bombing missions were incredibly precise and difficult, - the planes had to be flying at 250mph, 400 feet from the target, before dropping the bombs. The planes had to fly at an altitude of 60 feet, no mean feat for a massive 4-engined bomber.

The simple but ingenious idea I mentioned was to combat the aircrafts' altimeter's lack of resolution at such low altitudes. A pair of spotlamps was set up on the belly of the plane, such that they focussed to produce one beam on the reservoir surface at an altitude of 60 feet.

And I had lunch in Barnes Wallis building today. :smile:

Danger
May24-05, 11:06 PM
I kinda assumed I was correct too. It doesn't matter now, because......



Yes! Barnes Wallis' "Bouncing Bomb", as featured in the epic film "Dambusters!".
Sorry I didn't get here until now. Yes, I was referring to the original cube.
I loved 'Dambusters'. The uncle of one of my friends was on that mission. The spotlight trick was pure genius.

Ivan Seeking
May24-05, 11:28 PM
Critical to the patent of 1884, this is only slightly more sophisticated than a spinning pie tin punched with holes.

zoobyshoe
May24-05, 11:48 PM
Critical to the patent of 1884, this is only slightly more sophisticated than a spinning pie tin punched with holes.
The first UFO hoax-it-at-home kit.

Ivan Seeking
May24-05, 11:52 PM
No, but as a clue, U lands right in the middle.

Danger
May24-05, 11:57 PM
Kinescope?

Ivan Seeking
May24-05, 11:59 PM
Kinescope?

Nope. But oh so close...

Evo
May25-05, 12:16 AM
Nope. But oh so close...kinetoscope ?

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 12:21 AM
Painfully close but at least four years too late. If you can imagine taking an average of the last two [edit: concepts] suggestions...

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 12:23 AM
Kineoscope?

Danger
May25-05, 12:25 AM
suggestions...
Oh well, then... that leaves only kinetscope or kineoscope. :tongue:

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 12:26 AM
There is still a more basic concept and invention involved.

Mk
May25-05, 12:37 AM
An airbrush!

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 12:37 AM
Zoetrope?....

Moonbear
May25-05, 12:39 AM
A phenakistiscope.

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 12:40 AM
a colorectoscope?

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 12:40 AM
Zoetrope

Ten years too soon. :biggrin:

We are so close, and I just tried and easily found it based on three very simple clues already given.

Moonbear
May25-05, 12:43 AM
Oh, wait, you said it has to have a U in it, then how about a thaumatrope?

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 12:43 AM
a colorectoscope?


I don't know that one. I don't think so...

another clue: camera

Moonbear
May25-05, 12:45 AM
Or, a kinetograph!

Mk
May25-05, 12:45 AM
That's what I thought, but there's no U in it.

Huckleberry
May25-05, 12:46 AM
The first electric telescope?

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 12:48 AM
Oh, wait, you said it has to have a U in it, then how about a thaumatrope?

No, but that is another good guess. I didn't realize that there are so many related concepts, but this was considered an essential technical concept.

Mk
May25-05, 12:48 AM
Did Edison invent it?

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 12:49 AM
Paul Nipkow's mechanical television thingy

Moonbear
May25-05, 12:51 AM
Paul Nipkow's mechanical television thingy
I can't find a name for it, they're just calling it a Nipkow disk here:
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blnipkov.htm

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 12:54 AM
Or, a kinetograph!

Whewwwww, uncle!

I call that one close enough, but what I was looking for was the Nipkow disk

In 1884, university student Paul Nipkow of Germany proposed and patented the world's first electromechanical television system. Nipkow proposed a disc camera, that contained a disc which was perforated. To capture a moving image the disc was rotated before an image and had the effect of dividing the picture into lines. Light sensitive selenium behind the perforated disk would capture the moving image.

The camera became known as the Nipkow disk.
http://www.acmi.net.au/AIC/TV_HIST_FORTNER.html

Also. http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blnipkov.htm
Also: http://www.acmi.net.au/AIC/NIPKOW_DISK.html

It is considered to be the first rasterizer, and was part of the first mechanical television, patented in 1884.

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 12:54 AM
Uh oh, I guess Zooby got it first! :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 12:56 AM
Uh oh, I guess Zooby got it first! :biggrin:
What was the clue about the U all about?

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 12:57 AM
T U V --> TV :biggrin:

Danger, you picked up this didn't you? I thought you did.

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 12:59 AM
T U V --> TV :biggrin:

Danger, you picked up this didn't you? I thought you did.
I'm drawing a blank.

Mk
May25-05, 01:00 AM
Tenants Union of Victoria?

Moonbear
May25-05, 01:04 AM
T U V --> TV :biggrin:

Danger, you picked up this didn't you? I thought you did.
:confused: Tel-Uh-Vision? :uhh: :rofl:

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 01:05 AM
:confused: Tel-Uh-Vision? :uhh: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: No, even worse!


...QRSTUVWXYZ

Mk
May25-05, 01:07 AM
Oh, that one sure is tricky...

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:07 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: No, even worse!


...QRSTUVWXYZ
Let's everyone of us agree never to mention the badness of this clue to anyone outside this thread.

Moonbear
May25-05, 01:07 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: No, even worse!


...QRSTUVWXYZ

:rofl: :rofl: :rolleyes: :rofl: :rofl:

Danger
May25-05, 01:08 AM
T U V --> TV :biggrin:

Danger, you picked up this didn't you? I thought you did.
Sort of. That's the thing that I was thinking of when I said kinescope. I thought that the name was used for that before it was for picture tubes. :redface:

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 01:08 AM
You brought up UFOs! You asked for it!!! :biggrin:

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 01:09 AM
Sort of. That's the thing that I was thinking of when I said kinescope.


See! :biggrin: :rofl:

Moonbear
May25-05, 01:09 AM
Let's everyone of us agree never to mention the badness of this clue to anyone outside this thread.
No problem! I can't stop laughing long enough to say anything to anyone! I'm such a sucker for bad jokes. :rofl:

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:13 AM
See! :biggrin: :rofl:
"Sort of" is what you say to your 97 year old great grandmother when she asks if her sweater buttons are all lined up.

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 01:13 AM
No, but as a clue, U lands right in the middle.


I make no apologies!!! :tongue:

Danger
May25-05, 01:14 AM
See! :biggrin: :rofl:
Oh, you mean did I get the gag about the 'U' in the middle of 'TV'. Yeah. Loved it. :biggrin:

Loved Zoob's blankness even more. :tongue:

Huckleberry
May25-05, 01:17 AM
I seem to remember a reference to an ellemeno. Should have guessed there would be a TUV somewhere nearby.

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 01:17 AM
"Sort of" is what you say to your 97 year old great grandmother when she asks if her sweater buttons are all lined up.

I was allowing for your age. :confused:

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:18 AM
I make no apologies!!! :tongue:
Course not, gramma, that was a helpful, helpful clue!!!! Now, lets just get your buttons buttoned up a little neater here.

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 01:19 AM
I seem to remember a reference to an ellemeno. Should have guessed there would be a TUV somewhere nearby.


See again, Huckleberry gets it - the big picture! :approve:

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:23 AM
See again, Huckleberry gets it - the big picture! :approve:
Course he gets the big picture, Gramma. Certainly he does! We all guessed it right away, we were just teasing Gramma! Why who couldn't guess it with a clue like that?

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 01:24 AM
Okay now, if you're all done whining, its Zooby's turn.

ZOOBY!!! WAKE UP!!!!

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:26 AM
Lemme think a bit.

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 01:28 AM
MK had a question. And we had parallel questions running before.

Go ahead Mk.

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:32 AM
This man's invention made his name synonymous with quality. Name the man, and the invention.

Danger
May25-05, 01:38 AM
This man's invention made his name synonymous with quality. Name the man, and the invention.
Clarence Birdseye? TV dinners?

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:41 AM
Clarence Birdseye? TV dinners?
That's the Canadian hallmark of quality? TV dinners?

Nereid
May25-05, 01:41 AM
Karl Benz, the car (aka automobile) ... along with Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach
(despite what the English, Americans, and yes, even the French say!)

Mk
May25-05, 01:42 AM
McCoy, sorry, I went out for a snack.

Danger
May25-05, 01:42 AM
"Sort of" is what you say to your 97 year old great grandmother
My what year old great grandmother?! I thought you said that you're older than me. My mother is 91. If my dad were still around, he'd be 104 next month. My great grandparents would be somewhere around 200.

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:43 AM
Karl Benz, the car (aka automobile) ... along with Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach
(despite what the English, Americans, and yes, even the French say!)
No, the clue isn't meant to say the man merely made a quality product.

Huckleberry
May25-05, 01:44 AM
Yeah, Elijah McCoy as in 'the real McCoy' and he invented the lubricating cup for steam engines.

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:45 AM
McCoy, sorry, I went out for a snack.
I'm not McCoy. I'm the captain, and you are the WINNER!

Except you forgot to tell us what the original "real McCoy" was.

Danger
May25-05, 01:46 AM
Yeah, Elijah McCoy as in 'the real McCoy' and he invented the lubricating cup for steam engines.
Better than one for baseball players, I guess.

Nereid
May25-05, 01:47 AM
Dr. W. Edwards Deming - TQM (aka Total Quality Management), a management technique (duh!)

Mk
May25-05, 01:49 AM
The thing was a lubricator for steam engines, mostly used for boats and locamotives.

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:49 AM
Yeah, Elijah McCoy as in 'the real McCoy' and he invented the lubricating cup for steam engines.
No, I'm not Grampa McCoy, I'm Peppito, and you are the WINNER!!!

The automatic lubricating cup was "The Real McCoy."

We have two winners!!!

I guess you colaborate on a quetion via PM.

Huckleberry
May25-05, 01:50 AM
What, me. I just googled McCoy after MK posted it. I wanted to know the invention.

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:52 AM
Dr. W. Edwards Deming - TQM (aka Total Quality Management), a management technique (duh!)
You may not hear the phrase "That's the real McCoy" over there. It means "That's a quality machine, thing, etc". or that it's authentic.

Mk
May25-05, 01:52 AM
This DRUG was originally developed for treating a heart condition known as Angina pectoris, it was patented in 1996, and since then, made over a billion dollars. What is its technical and marketing name?

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 01:53 AM
What, me. I just googled McCoy after MK posted it. I wanted to know the invention.
OK. We'll give it to MK.

Now, I pass the baton to the Island of Guam....

Huckleberry
May25-05, 01:54 AM
is it Viagra?

Nereid
May25-05, 01:54 AM
Hey, MK, Huckleberry ... you guys won it.

However, the Deming Prize (http://www.deming.org/demingprize/) is 'synonymous with quality' (well, to some folk anyway!)

Mk
May25-05, 01:54 AM
Bah! Everytime I reload the page there's like 5 new posts!

Mk
May25-05, 01:55 AM
is it Viagra?

Yes, but what is its two-word more technical name?

Huckleberry
May25-05, 01:57 AM
sildenafil citrate.

Mk
May25-05, 01:57 AM
Ah, Huckleberry wins!

Huckleberry
May25-05, 01:58 AM
I figured that anything that made a billion dollars had to be intimately tied to our biology. People can be so predictable.

Okay, I got one. Just a minute to check the reference.

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 02:04 AM
Hey, MK, Huckleberry ... you guys won it.

However, the Deming Prize (http://www.deming.org/demingprize/) is 'synonymous with quality' (well, to some folk anyway!)
Looks like you have to be Japanese to win.

Mk
May25-05, 02:05 AM
Looks like you have to be Japanese to win.
Or from Japan.

Moonbear
May25-05, 02:05 AM
I figured that anything that made a billion dollars had to be intimately tied to our biology. People can be so predictable.

Okay, I got one. Just a minute to check the reference.

Darn, I thought you guys were still on the previous question (zooby's question)! This thread is moving to fast! If I knew that new clue was up, I could have beaten all of you to it! :grumpy:

Mk
May25-05, 02:10 AM
Ok, Its Huckleberry's turn. I like this thread. :biggrin:

Huckleberry
May25-05, 02:12 AM
Who was the first person in history to have written evidence of an accurate solution for Olbers' Paradox?

I hope I got this right, but there it is. We'll know soon enough.

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 02:17 AM
Einstein?....

Mk
May25-05, 02:17 AM
Kepler was so disturbed by this paradox that he simply postulated thta the universe was finite, enclosed within a shell, and hence only a finite amount of starlight could reach our eyes.

Heinrich Wilhelm Olbers in 1823 wrote that the starlight is absorbed by dust clouds. "How forunate that the Earth does not recieve starlight from every point of the celestial vault! Yet, with such unimaginablee brightness and heat, amounting to 90,000 times more than what we now experience, the Almighty could easily have deisnged organsims capable of adapting to such extreme conditions." Olbers suggested the dust clouds must absorb the intense heat to make life on Earth possible.

Huckleberry
May25-05, 02:17 AM
Nope.
How should I know when to give a clue?

Mk
May25-05, 02:19 AM
No! I got the answer.

Danger
May25-05, 02:20 AM
Nope.
How should I know when to give a clue?
Just listen to your sadistic streak. :biggrin:

Huckleberry
May25-05, 02:22 AM
No! I got the answer.what year was Kepler's discovery?

Mk
May25-05, 02:23 AM
In 1848, the first person in history to solve the mystery was Edger Allen Poe, who had a long-term intrest in astronomy. Just before he died he published the answer in a philosphical poem entitled Eureka: A Prose Poem.

Were teh succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us an uniform luminosity, like that displayed by the Galaxy - sice there could be absolutely no point, in all that backgroud, at which would not aexist a star. The only mode, therefore, in which, under such a state of affairs, we could comprehend the voids whihc our telescopes find in innumerable directions, would be by supposing that the distance of the invisible background [is] so imense that no ray from it has yet to be able to reach us at all. [This] idea is by far too beautiful not to possess Truth as its essentiality.

Mk
May25-05, 02:24 AM
Oh, and Lord Kelvin also discovered it in 1901.

Huckleberry
May25-05, 02:24 AM
MK has the right answer. Or at least the answer that I was looking for.

Just like Lord Kelvin, to come up with an answer before the question is asked. Poe was the name I had in mind.

Mk
May25-05, 02:33 AM
I am an autistic savant and child prodigy that was born around 1850, in America. Mark Twain regularly attended my concerts before I started my world tour. Give two of my names. :smile:

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 02:42 AM
I am an autistic savant and child prodigy that was born around 1850, in America. Mark Twain regularly attended my concerts before I started my world tour. Give two of my names. :smile:
Thomas "Blind Tom" Wiggins

Mk
May25-05, 02:46 AM
Correctamundo!

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 02:47 AM
She drew a blank, intentionally, with this invention in 1951.

Danger
May25-05, 02:49 AM
She drew a blank, intentionally, with this invention in 1951.
Etch-a-Sketch?

Mk
May25-05, 02:56 AM
Liquid Paper was invented by Bette Nesmith in 1951.

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 02:57 AM
Liquid Paper was invented by Bette Nesmith in 1951.
That's it!

Mk
May25-05, 03:00 AM
This group of people in the 1500s did not eat worms.

matthyaouw
May25-05, 04:00 AM
That would be referring to The Diet of Worms, being a meeting of the estates of the holy roman empire in Worms, Germany, to address Luther's theses criticising the catholic church. It was held by holy roman emperor Charles V

Mk
May25-05, 04:04 AM
Yes. Your turn to formulate a question!

matthyaouw
May25-05, 04:14 AM
The centre of the earth prooved too far, despite their very expensive efforts.

Mk
May25-05, 04:16 AM
What country? This could be a lot of groups.

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 04:18 AM
Vert true Mk, Very True.

matthyaouw
May25-05, 04:26 AM
It was America.

Mk
May25-05, 04:26 AM
The deepest research borehole ever drilled was in Russia, on the Kola peninsula. Over a period of more than a decade a huge purpose-built rig drilled to over 12 kilometers to investigate the structure of the Continental Crust. Its about 12,226 meters deep.

Mk
May25-05, 04:27 AM
*doubletakes* America? Is my world's deepest hole going the right direction?

matthyaouw
May25-05, 04:55 AM
You're on the right track. This was undertaken by The American Miscellaneous Society (AMSOC), and wasn't in Russia.

Mk
May25-05, 04:57 AM
Oh, well now you told us the answer.

What do the rules say now?

Mk
May25-05, 04:58 AM
How about just Zygotic Embryo posts a question.

matthyaouw
May25-05, 04:59 AM
I didn't tell you the answer. I'm looking for a name here.

Mk
May25-05, 05:02 AM
The centre of the earth prooved too far, despite their very expensive efforts.
American Miscellaneous Society AMSOC was a loose collection of scientists that was formed mainly to progress research projects that didn't fit into any category, such as the unsuccessful project to drill into the Earth's mantle, Project Mohole?

matthyaouw
May25-05, 05:04 AM
yup, it was project mohole.

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 05:05 AM
It has the name of a bird, yet the metaphor of death. It was created by a very famous person with the last name that is another word for ghost

Mk
May25-05, 05:07 AM
Way too easy, Raven.

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 05:09 AM
Correct, good job.

Mk
May25-05, 05:14 AM
I share the same name as Holmes's friend and assistant. I co-discovered the most famous blueprint of all time. What is the full name of my partner?

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 05:20 AM
james watson

Mk
May25-05, 05:21 AM
Incorrect, but close. You're halfway there.

honestrosewater
May25-05, 05:25 AM
Francis Harry Compton Crick. Erm, did I steal it?

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 05:26 AM
Francis Crick

Mk
May25-05, 05:27 AM
Yes. Stolen.

Mk
May25-05, 05:28 AM
honestrosewater gives the question.

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 05:28 AM
Danget, he got it first.

Good job horse

honestrosewater
May25-05, 05:38 AM
Hm, my first question.

You may think a Harvard logician's high blood pressure caused me (but you'd be wrong).

Mk
May25-05, 05:42 AM
I'm lost on this one, leads end up in dead ends. I think someone would have to know this one.

Mk
May25-05, 05:48 AM
Ah, I have a potential lead! Though I have no knowlage whatsoever on medical stuff.

honestrosewater
May25-05, 05:49 AM
What, I'm supposed to feed you the answer? High blood pressure is a major risk factor for what?
Edit: You might try to shave off a couple... What do swimming and petting have in common? Today I speak; Yesterday I [....] :tongue2:

Mk
May25-05, 05:54 AM
Henry Sheffer!

Mk
May25-05, 05:55 AM
Oh, wrong answer, its just a stroke

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 05:55 AM
Stroke..somthing.. hmm

brb

Mk
May25-05, 05:56 AM
Did I steal it?

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 05:56 AM
Jesus christ

again..

stolen?

honestrosewater
May25-05, 06:01 AM
Meh, whose stroke?
Hint: No, it's not Jesus Christ's

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 06:06 AM
LOL that wasn't my awnser.


Stroke was a clue. I guess i was going the wrong direction with it.

Mk
May25-05, 06:07 AM
Sheffer's stroke.

I am the bass guitarist for a band that formed in Boston, and we haven't played with toys since 1975. I share my last name with a very famous physicist, what year was he born?

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 06:37 AM
Dr. Robert Preston Hamilton,

Mk
May25-05, 06:41 AM
No. Think 175 years back.

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 06:44 AM
Wr Hamilton 1805

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 06:46 AM
From house to house he goes,
A messenger small and slight.
And whether it rains or snows,
He sleeps outside at night.
What am I?

Mk
May25-05, 06:51 AM
A path, covered up.

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 06:55 AM
yes. minus the covered up

Mk
May25-05, 06:58 AM
What island has the fruit made by mixing a delicious red kind with a Virginia Rawls Jennet's on it?

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 07:03 AM
fuji...?

yay

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 07:12 AM
honshu!


correct

Mk
May25-05, 07:13 AM
Yes, thy speaks true.

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 07:23 AM
I don't like cheese but my friend ____ does., I am not a mammal. But You touch me everyday.

Mk
May25-05, 07:24 AM
This could be too many things, can you narrow it down a wee bit?

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 07:29 AM
I move around, seldomly making noises. I do not breathe or live. My body is bilateral, I am not a sport, but people play with my ball.

Mk
May25-05, 07:37 AM
A computer mouse.

Zygotic Embryo
May25-05, 07:39 AM
good job...

Mk
May25-05, 08:05 AM
The first letter of the 3-letter word that provides the most points in Scrabble, is known in commonwealth english as a different term. In Men In Black, what actor plays him?

Chi Meson
May25-05, 08:16 AM
Rip Torn?
("Zee" / "Zed")


PS Don't you guys EVER sleep?

Chi Meson
May25-05, 08:32 AM
Great NOW you go to sleep!

Mk
May25-05, 08:50 AM
Yes, Rip Torn, correct.

I'm going to bed now. I'm in Guam, so day-night's different.

Chi Meson
May25-05, 08:55 AM
Aha! OK. Um, a clue. Let's Pretend I'm Steve.

"A clue? Do you see a clue? Where?"

"Oh, right! There's a clue on that sand over there. You know what we need, our handy dandy ... NOTEBOOK."

"Let's see, how do you draw sand?"

to be continued. (The clue is SAND)

Chi Meson
May25-05, 09:08 AM
(OK, I know... so far too vague)

"Oh look, it's our second clue! on that box of Borax laundry detergent"

honestrosewater
May25-05, 10:10 AM
Ah, the suspense is killing me. I feel like I'm in Death Valley or something... ?? :biggrin:

Chi Meson
May25-05, 10:36 AM
consider the basic elements of these clues (there is one more clue coming of course)

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 02:22 PM
Wild guess: glass?

Chi Meson
May25-05, 02:25 PM
Last clue:

"Oh look, the phosphorous is our third clue. Let's make a sandwich."

brewnog
May25-05, 02:42 PM
Well Phosphorus has been used in washing powders to make your whites whiter, and is next to Silicon on the periodic table, which is a constituent of sand, and, urm, not far away from those is Chlorine which is used to bleach paper?!!

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 02:50 PM
Last clue:

"Oh look, the phosphorous is our third clue. Let's make a sandwich."
I googled "Phosphorous, silica, borax, sandwich" and didn't seem to come up with anything. Does "Let's Pretend I'm Steve," LPIS, have some clue value? Sandwich and silicon suggest some sort of semiconductor, alliteratively speaking.

Ivan Seeking
May25-05, 03:30 PM
Wow! This thread has been busy.

wolram
May25-05, 06:06 PM
sounds like a bomb to me.

Chi Meson
May25-05, 06:20 PM
Wow! This thread has been busy.

Yeah. What was it, ten pages in ten hours?

Zooby: "Steve" is from "Blues clues." All i know of poular culture these days comes from "Nick Jr."


Sandwich. Tis wafer thin. Think about it in the light of day.

Danger
May25-05, 06:20 PM
Photocell?

Chi Meson
May25-05, 06:25 PM
Photocell?
Ouch! That came fast.

Yes, the original photocell. Newer ones use layers of variously doped gallium.

Danger
May25-05, 06:56 PM
Lots of teeth, but only bites you by accident.

brewnog
May25-05, 07:07 PM
Lots of teeth, but only bites you by accident.

Moonbear?

Oh no wait, accident. Hmm....

Mantrap?

Moonbear
May25-05, 07:14 PM
Lots of teeth, but only bites you by accident.

Moonbear?

Oh no wait, accident. Hmm....

Mantrap?

:grumpy: :mad: I rescind my offer of a bed for you to sleep in when you visit the U.S.! :grumpy:

I can think of lots of things with teeth that don't bite, but can't think of anything that bites only by accident. :rolleyes:

Danger
May25-05, 07:19 PM
Moonbear?
I so wish that I'd thought of that before I posted the question, but I've already made up my mind what the answer is. :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
May25-05, 07:20 PM
Gears? .........

Mk
May25-05, 09:47 PM
A saw? Me?

Ok, so we know its not alive (right?), but it has somewhat a mind of its own (more like a computer), or is diffucult to control. It has teeth.

Mk
May25-05, 09:59 PM
Zoobyshoe is walking around in the beautiful Alaskan summer, when he unexpectadly steps in... a bear trap?

Huckleberry
May25-05, 10:06 PM
I have lots of teeth and only bite myself accidentally.

Mk
May25-05, 10:08 PM
The human mouth. Lots of teeth, but you only bite your tounge accidentally.

Mk
May26-05, 01:43 AM
Danger, we need some feedback here...

Danger
May26-05, 02:16 AM
Danger, we need some feedback here...
Sorry. I love PF, but pool comes first. (Incidentally, we skunked them.) Anyhow, you're all off the track. You are correct that it's not alive. Parts include, but are not restricted to, hooks and hollows.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 02:22 AM
Sorry. I love PF, but pool comes first...
Ah, zip yer pie hole....hey! That's it!


zipper

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 02:57 AM
Zipppeeerrrrr

Danger
May26-05, 03:01 AM
Zipppeeerrrrr
Yeah. Sorry, I was preoccupied somewhere else for a while. 'Tis indeed the old turtle choker.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 03:21 AM
Patented in 1972 this was the begining of a now ubiquitous form of entertainment.

Ivan Seeking
May26-05, 03:24 AM
Odyssey

The game of Pong

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 03:27 AM
Too fast!

Yer tern.

Ivan Seeking
May26-05, 04:02 AM
About 30 meters long and 4 meters high, and mounted on 4 wheels, this was built with the hope that the signal to noise ratio of transoceanic radio-telephones might be improved.

Danger
May26-05, 04:38 AM
First radio telescope?

Ivan Seeking
May26-05, 04:42 AM
First radio telescope?

DARN! :grumpy:

:biggrin: Yerrrrrrrrr up.

Danger
May26-05, 04:45 AM
DARN! :grumpy:

:biggrin: Yerrrrrrrrr up.
That was just an educated guess. Anyhow, as I just mentioned in your new thread, I severely have to hit the springs now. I've got a double shift tomorrow, and about 4 hours left to get some sleep first. Fire up another one on me. I'll sneak back into line some time tomorrow night. Give Tsu an extra one for me, and I'll see you tomorrow.

Ivan Seeking
May26-05, 04:53 AM
It's too late for me, so the floor is open to a new question.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 04:55 AM
This man's work rid us of a dangerous crank.

Mk
May26-05, 05:58 AM
The Wankel engine is a type of internal combustion engine, invented by Felix Wankel, which uses a rotor instead of reciprocating pistons. This design promises smooth high-rpm power from a compact, lightweight engine; however Wankels are criticized for poor fuel efficiency and exhaust emissions.

Correct? I'm not so sure about this one.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 05:59 AM
No, sir. Nice guess, though.

Mk
May26-05, 06:08 AM
In 1903, the first U.S. patent for an automobile electric self-starter was issued to Clyde J. Coleman of New York City (No. 745,157). He invented the self-starter in 1899, but the invention was impractical.

The license was purchased by the Delco Company, which was taken over by the General Motors Corporation. Charles Kettering at General Motors modified the self-starter, and made it practical. It was first installed on Cadillac cars in 1911. By 1920, nearly every car had a self-starter.

The self-starter is a necessity for internal-combustion engines, because the Otto cycle requires the pistons already be in motion before the ignition phase of the cycle. This means that the engine must be started in motion by an outside force before it can power itself. Originally a hand crank was used to start the engine, but it was inconvenient and rather hard work to crank the engine up to speed. For the self-starter an electric motor, called a starter motor or sometimes just plain starter, is used in place of the hand crank to put the engine into motion.

I'm more sure about this one, but not positive.

Zygotic Embryo
May26-05, 07:46 AM
George Bush

Zygotic Embryo
May26-05, 08:27 AM
I do not riddle out, or riddle up, or riddle down, i do not riddle to the left, or to the right. But i may save your life.


What am i

Mk
May26-05, 08:41 AM
I'm the son of rage and love,
The Jesus of suburbia,
From the bible of "none of the above",
On a steady diet of soda pop and ritalin...

Not mushrooms, but ritalin!

Mk
May26-05, 08:52 AM
Shrimp is the main food source of the mostly South American and African leggy bird, but there's one species that lives in southern Europe. It has secondary wing feathers that are the same color as a hex triplet, that consists of 6 charachters, what is it?

Zygotic Embryo
May26-05, 09:22 AM
Greater Flamingo
#000000

my question is


I am partner's with a needle. I am on this website. and have a title
What is it?

Mk
May26-05, 09:30 AM
Thread. What was it?

Apple sells a software product that provides aadvanced digital compositing. When you add milk what do you get? You can make it in your blender, or buy it from McDonalds.

Goodnight, its 12:30 here, you'll know if you get the answer or not.

brewnog
May26-05, 09:45 AM
Thread. What was it?

Apple sells a software product that provides aadvanced digital compositing. When you add milk what do you get? You can make it in your blender, or buy it from McDonalds.

Goodnight, its 12:30 here, you'll know if you get the answer or not.


Shake?

Just a hunch!

brewnog
May26-05, 09:51 AM
It's the world's largest one of its type, and it's twice as big as the next-largest one, which is in Georgia, USA. It contains 53 miles of cabling just to support itself.

Danger
May26-05, 09:56 AM
It contains 53 miles of cabling just to support itself.
Suspension bridge?

brewnog
May26-05, 09:58 AM
Suspension bridge?

No, but I was hoping you'd say that :smile:


It's covered in Teflon!

Danger
May26-05, 10:02 AM
No, but I was hoping you'd say that :smile:
You set that whole bridge thing up on the other thread just to fake me out here, didn't you?

It's covered in Teflon!
My next guess would have been Moonbear's bra, until you mentioned the Teflon.

Mk
May26-05, 10:03 AM
Shake?

Just a hunch!

I stayed up, shake is half of it. add milk. It is milkshake. Good job.

Mk
May26-05, 10:03 AM
Is it the longest cable car system?

brewnog
May26-05, 10:05 AM
Is it the longest cable car system?

Nope, I wouldn't make it that easy!

You set that whole bridge thing up on the other thread just to fake me out here, didn't you?

Yeah, and it worked. Hurrah!

My next guess would have been Moonbear's bra, until you mentioned the Teflon.

Heh, good guess, but no.

Ironically, it's probably more similar to half of moonbear's bra, with a scaling factor taken into account. The heating system is probably still there though...

Danger
May26-05, 10:13 AM
Ironically, it's probably more similar to half of moonbear's bra, with a scaling factor taken into account. The heating system is probably still there though...
Sports dome?

brewnog
May26-05, 10:15 AM
Sports dome?

Getting there...

It's got 12 masts.

Danger
May26-05, 10:29 AM
Getting there...

It's got 12 masts.
A sports boat? :biggrin:

brewnog
May26-05, 10:45 AM
A sports boat? :biggrin:


Hah, no.

But it could fit an Eiffel tower inside it (if you turned the Eiffel tower on its side, and moved it a bit).

Danger
May26-05, 10:49 AM
Hah, no.
Well, I gotta go work a 10-hour shift now. I'll ponder this all day, come up with a truly brilliant solution, then come back and find out how humiliatingly wrong I am. Later, bud.

FredGarvin
May26-05, 11:07 AM
The Millenium Dome? I believe the Georgia Dome in Atlanta is another fabric roof.

brewnog
May26-05, 12:09 PM
The Millenium Dome? I believe the Georgia Dome in Atlanta is another fabric roof.


Correct!

The Millennium Dome in Greenwich, London, consisting of a PTFE-coated GFRP roof supported by twelve steel masts, is the largest dome in the world. Designed by the Richard Rogers partnership, it was full of crap until it was closed due to having less than a quarter the number of visitors it was supposed to have.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 12:36 PM
Incidently, that was correct about the "self starter" back there. Sorry I wasn't awake to confirm it.

Chi Meson
May26-05, 01:01 PM
Fred? Fred! Your go!

I fianlly got back on line and there's nothing to do here!

[tap tap tap]

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 01:53 PM
Here's an easy time filler till Fred gets back:

It shatters when struck, but oozes slowly into a puddle when left alone.

What is it called, and what is it made from?

brewnog
May26-05, 01:59 PM
Ice, and water?

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 02:01 PM
Ice, and water?
An answer that fits the clue exactly, so, you're right, but that isn't the substance I had in mind. The one I mean doesn't exist in Nature.

matthyaouw
May26-05, 02:09 PM
Here's an easy time filler till Fred gets back:

It shatters when struck, but oozes slowly into a puddle when left alone.

What is it called, and what is it made from?

Would it be cornflour mixed with water?

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 02:15 PM
Would it be cornflour mixed with water?
Cornstarch and water behaves similarly, but the stuff I'm refering to wouldn't dry out over time. Different constituents.

matthyaouw
May26-05, 02:19 PM
how about silly putty? (gooey stuff designed for kids to play with). Don't know what its made of.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 02:21 PM
how about silly putty? (gooey stuff designed for kids to play with). Don't know what its made of.
That is it! It is made of boric acid and silicone oil, heated to perfection.

Your turn.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 02:27 PM
Incidently, matthyaouw, does this guys hair look familiar to you:

self-28.jpg
Address:http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/durer/self/self-28.jpg

matthyaouw
May26-05, 02:34 PM
Invented in the 1930s this was a new variation on something well known previously. Its new twist allowed it to be a lot louder than its predecessors. It is still commonly used today.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 02:37 PM
Invented in the 1930s this was a new variation on something well known previously. Its new twist allowed it to be a lot louder than its predecessors. It is still commonly today.
The rolled paper jacket for firecrackers?

matthyaouw
May26-05, 02:39 PM
Not what I was thinking of. You're quite cold at th moment.

And yes, that guy's hair looks uncannily familiar.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 02:47 PM
Not what I was thinking of. You're quite cold at th moment.
The paper cone in the electromagnetic loudspeaker?

matthyaouw
May26-05, 02:52 PM
Nope again, but you're much much closer. It does rely on vibration.

FredGarvin
May26-05, 02:58 PM
Holy crud! I actually got one (finally)....

This was first installed in 1912 at a Pennsylvania power station. It is still operating to this day with an expected lifespan of 1300 years.

FredGarvin
May26-05, 04:20 PM
Come on guys...I only have an hour until I have to go off line for a while...

Here are two hints:
1) The man responsible has a hall at University of New Hampshire named after him.
2) His last name sounds close to an American brand of charcoal.

Ivan Seeking
May26-05, 04:49 PM
Not to worry, a good question can take some time to figure out.

At the moment I have no idea...

matthyaouw
May26-05, 04:57 PM
Is google cheating? if no, I know the answer :D

Ivan Seeking
May26-05, 05:10 PM
Any way that you can find the answer is fair game.

matthyaouw
May26-05, 05:24 PM
In that case it would be Dr. Albert Kingsbury's first fluid film thrust bearing.

If I'm right, whoever wants the next question can have it.

FredGarvin
May26-05, 07:56 PM
Damn Matthyouw. That's correct. I must have been too gracious with my hints. Kingsbury's tilt pad thrust bearing to be precise. The bearing I mentioned in Pennsylvania was torn down for maintenance just a couple of years ago after approximately 80 years in service. There was no appreciable wear observable.

Mk
May26-05, 08:50 PM
This is anisotropic, hygroscopic and is usually limited to different shades of brown. Found all over the world naturally and not so. It is commonly classified as what two types? Why is it misleading?

Moonbear
May26-05, 09:13 PM
This is anisotropic, hygroscopic and is usually limited to different shades of brown. Found all over the world naturally and not so. It is commonly classified as what two types? Why is it misleading?
Wood. Classified as hardwood and softwood. Misleading because softwood can sometimes be harder than hardwood.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Wood

Mk
May26-05, 09:14 PM
Ah, yes. Give it a gowhy don't cha?

Mk
May26-05, 09:22 PM
Yes, I deleted my post when I noticed it about 3 seconds afterwards.

Evo
May26-05, 09:23 PM
Yes, I deleted my post when I noticed it in about 3 seconds.heheh, we're a few seconds apart in posting. :tongue2:

Evo
May26-05, 09:26 PM
Misleading because softwood can sometimes be harder than hardwood. I did not know that. :grumpy:

So MB, what's the next "what was it"?

Moonbear
May26-05, 09:28 PM
This invention "tamed" the American West. Who was the first U.S. patent holder for this invention?
(I'll return with more clues if this is too vague.)

Evo
May26-05, 09:30 PM
This invention "tamed" the American West. Who was the first U.S. patent holder for this invention?
(I'll return with more clues if this is too vague.)The Winchester rifle? But that would be too easy for the second part of the question. Or Remington? The one with the widow that built that weird house.

"tamed" hmmm, not railroads, they made the west accessible

Mk
May26-05, 09:31 PM
Colt's Manufacturing Company was founded in Hartford, Connecticut in 1847 by Samuel Colt in order to produce revolvers, which Colt held the patent on, during the Mexican-American War.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 09:31 PM
This invention "tamed" the American West. Who was the first U.S. patent holder for this invention?
(I'll return with more clues if this is too vague.)
BARBED WIRE
Address:http://www.rra.dst.tx.us/c_t/History1/BARBED%20WIRE.cfm Changed:7:24 PM on Thursday, May 26, 2005

Moonbear
May26-05, 09:35 PM
Darn, that was quick Zooby! Guess I wasn't too vague.

Oh, wait, I don't see the inventor I was looking for in that link!

Mk
May26-05, 09:36 PM
Dammit! I just found it. :mad:

The most successful barbed wire was patented by Joseph F. Glidden of DeKalb, Illinois in 1874. It was an improvement on earlier less successful pointed wire products such as that invented in 1865 by Louis Jannin of France.

Barbed wire was the first wire technology capable of restraining cattle. Wire fences were cheaper to erect than their alternatives and when they became widely available in the late 19th century in the United States they made it affordable to fence much bigger areas than before. They made intensive animal husbandry practical on a much larger scale.

Barbed-wire fences remain the standard fencing technology for enclosing cattle in most regions of the US, but not all countries. The wire is aligned under tension between heavy, braced, fence posts (strainer posts) and then held at the correct height by being attached to wooden posts and battens, or steel star posts. The gaps between star posts vary depending on terrain—on short fences in hilly country they may be placed as closely as every 3 metres, whereas in flat terrain with long spans and relatively few stock they may be spaced out up to 30 to 50 metres. Wooden posts are normally spaced at 10 metres (2 rods) in any case with 4 or 5 batterns in between.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 09:37 PM
I don't know why, but barbed wire always comes up in every book on invention.

OK. This was originally called "rod wax" and was considered a nuisance till someone put it in jars and sold it.

Evo
May26-05, 09:37 PM
BARBED WIRE!!!! There were WARS fought over people putting up barbed wire in the west!!!

Mk
May26-05, 09:38 PM
Car waxing wax?

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 09:38 PM
BARBED WIRE!!!! There were WARS fought over people putting up barbed wire in the west!!!
Better late than never..........

JamesU
May26-05, 09:39 PM
I think it's time for me to come to this thread...mm..yyess!

Moonbear
May26-05, 09:39 PM
Dammit! I just found it. :mad:

The most successful barbed wire was patented by Joseph F. Glidden of DeKalb, Illinois in 1874. It was an improvement on earlier less successful pointed wire products such as that invented in 1865 by Louis Jannin of France.
Not quite...I was looking for the first of the US Patent holders. (Hint...after Jannin's invention and before Glidden's). :devil:

Evo
May26-05, 09:39 PM
Better late than never..........I'm a slow typer. :frown:

Mk
May26-05, 09:39 PM
OH, I got it.

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=236742&area=/insight/insight__national/
When he went there, Chesebrough noticed that roughnecks who worked the rigs were maddened by a gelatinous black gunk that clogged up their drills. They called it “rod wax” and were constantly having to wipe the stuff away. But these same working Joes, Chesebrough was interested to see, slapped “rod wax” on their cuts to help them heal faster.

Chesebrough took some jelly to his lab and tested its healing property on himself. It worked. He soon had a fleet of wagons trundling around the country distributing Vaseline (a barbarous combination of the German “wasser”, and the Greek “elaion”: “water-oil”).

Chesebrough was an evangelist. In front of rapt audiences he would burn his skin with acid and then anoint the wounds with his wonder-jelly, pointing to earlier scars Vaseline had healed. Next day, every druggist in town would have bought a wagonload.

Now we use it for something else...

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 09:39 PM
Car waxing wax?
Nein!!!!!!!!!!

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 09:40 PM
OH, I got it.

When he went there, Chesebrough noticed that roughnecks who worked the rigs were maddened by a gelatinous black gunk that clogged up their drills. They called it “rod wax” and were constantly having to wipe the stuff away. But these same working Joes, Chesebrough was interested to see, slapped “rod wax” on their cuts to help them heal faster.

Chesebrough took some jelly to his lab and tested its healing property on himself. It worked. He soon had a fleet of wagons trundling around the country distributing Vaseline (a barbarous combination of the German “wasser”, and the Greek “elaion”: “water-oil”).

Chesebrough was an evangelist. In front of rapt audiences he would burn his skin with acid and then anoint the wounds with his wonder-jelly, pointing to earlier scars Vaseline had healed. Next day, every druggist in town would have bought a wagonload.
Jawhol!!!!!!!!

Evo
May26-05, 09:40 PM
I don't know why, but barbed wire always comes up in every book on invention.

OK. This was originally called "rod wax" and was considered a nuisance till someone put it in jars and sold it.petroleum jelly

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 09:42 PM
petroleum jelly
Better late than never...........

Evo
May26-05, 09:42 PM
DAMN IT!!!! I had something in my eye AND I didn't google it either. :devil:

Do you know what a nut Cheseborough was? Cutting and burning himself to test the healing powers?

JamesU
May26-05, 09:43 PM
So...what'cha talkin about?

Evo
May26-05, 09:44 PM
Not fair!! :cry: I know this worthless trivia because I do not have a life, and I'm old, and slow.

(oooh, could ban MK, then I would have a fighting chance) :tongue:

Mk
May26-05, 09:44 PM
Ok, I guess its my turn. Lemme think of one.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 09:45 PM
Do you know what a nut Cheseborough was? Cutting and burning himself to test the healing powers?
No, I didn't read any more than the rod wax/vaseline part and posted my quetion.

JamesU
May26-05, 09:46 PM
yyeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh.................

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 09:46 PM
Not fair!! :cry: I know this worthless trivia because I do not have a life, and I'm old, and slow.

(oooh, could ban MK, then I would have a fighting chance) :tongue:
I often wonder if MK is another PF member in disquise.

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 09:49 PM
yyeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh.................
The game is called "What was it?"

Someone gives a clue or two and the rest guess and google as fast as they can to get the right answer. If you get it right you give the next clues. It is traditionally an invention of some sort.

MK is now thinking of some new clues.

JamesU
May26-05, 09:49 PM
hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmm..........

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 10:03 PM
MK, we're waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JamesU
May26-05, 10:04 PM
Mk!!!!!!!!

Evo
May26-05, 10:07 PM
"inserts jeopardy music"

JamesU
May26-05, 10:09 PM
do de do do do de do, do de do da deeee, da-da-da-do de da do do de da, da da do do de da, do.

Ivan Seeking
May26-05, 10:11 PM
Talk about a hot thread! If someone doesn't post for twenty minutes everyone starts getting hostile!

Now post damnit!!!!

:biggrin:

JamesU
May26-05, 10:13 PM
uuuuhhhhh... :uhh:

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 10:15 PM
This guy was the first to put this stuff in a tube. What was it, who was he and when?

JamesU
May26-05, 10:18 PM
This is probably the stupidest clue evr... GOOGLE SAYS NOTHING RELEVANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Moonbear
May26-05, 10:18 PM
This guy was the first to put this stuff in a tube. What was it, who was he and when?
Toothpaste?

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 10:19 PM
Toothpaste?
3 part quetion

Moonbear
May26-05, 10:21 PM
Toothpaste in a tube first done by Washington Sheffield in 1892.

Moonbear
May26-05, 10:22 PM
3 part quetion
Pfft...nobody answered the second part of my question before continuing on before. :grumpy: (Okay, I was still googling...the first part I got without google.)

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 10:22 PM
Correct!.....

JamesU
May26-05, 10:23 PM
'kay, moonbear's up!

Mk
May26-05, 10:26 PM
A company exports the largest percentage of beef from the U.S. It shares its name with an American supermodel, what is his father's race?

Mk
May26-05, 10:26 PM
What I thought I was up! After getting it before Evo. This thread moves fast.

JamesU
May26-05, 10:28 PM
Christian?

Moonbear
May26-05, 10:30 PM
That's okay MK, I'm still looking for a good one, so you can go ahead of me here.

JamesU
May26-05, 10:42 PM
I've had enough, I got one

In ---- he reached the London Regional Final of the Times crossword competition, where his score was one of the highest recorded by an American. He was a famous logicion and philosipher. Who was he?

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 10:47 PM
A company exports the largest percentage of beef from the U.S. It shares its name with an American supermodel, what is his father's race?
Need more clues. (Also:Did you realy mean to say "his" father's race?)

Moonbear
May26-05, 10:48 PM
A company exports the largest percentage of beef from the U.S. It shares its name with an American supermodel, what is his father's race?
My lack of knowledge of supermodels slowed this one down considerably.

Okay, Tyson foods is the largest beef exporter, and the supermodel is Tyson Beckford, his father is Jamaican.

JamesU
May26-05, 10:50 PM
MOONBEAR GETS IT...again...nobody answered mine..:cry:

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 10:52 PM
MOONBEAR GETS IT...again...nobody answered mine..:cry:
You can't post one till you guess one correctly.

JamesU
May26-05, 10:53 PM
but nobody was posting!! WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO? :cry:

Moonbear
May26-05, 10:53 PM
Need more clues. (Also:Did you realy mean to say "his" father's race?)
I see you have a problem with typos there. Her invention might help with that. Name the invention and inventor.

Evo
May26-05, 10:54 PM
but nobody was posting!! WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO? :cry:I authorized yomamma to ask a quetion. :smile:

JamesU
May26-05, 10:56 PM
I already asked it:

In ---- he reached the London Regional Final of the Times crossword competition, where his score was one of the highest recorded by an American. He was a famous logicion and philosipher. Who was he?

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 11:03 PM
I see you have a problem with typos there. Her invention might help with that. Name the invention and inventor.
I soooo hope you're not talking about Bette Nesmith Graham's liquid paper (white out), since I used that as a clue I gave just yesterday.

Moonbear
May26-05, 11:07 PM
I soooo hope you're not talking about Bette Nesmith Graham's liquid paper (white out), since I used that as a clue I gave just yesterday.
Okay, yomamma's question is still up then (I missed your earlier clue...this thread is moving too fast! :eek:)

JamesU
May26-05, 11:08 PM
Okay, yomamma's question is still up
damn' right

zoobyshoe
May26-05, 11:12 PM
I already asked it:

In ---- he reached the London Regional Final of the Times crossword competition, where his score was one of the highest recorded by an American. He was a famous logicion and philosipher. Who was he?
Bertrand Russel 1941

Moonbear
May26-05, 11:14 PM
George Boolos

JamesU
May26-05, 11:14 PM
Bertrand Russel 1941
Sorry, that's wrong his initials are GB

EDIT: moonbear got it

Moonbear
May26-05, 11:18 PM
Okay, I'm just going to check that my next one hasn't already made an appearance here before I post it...brb!

Okay kiddies, listen up! Here's the next clue:
The first model came out in turquoise and cost $15.95.

Danger
May26-05, 11:25 PM
Any way that you can find the answer is fair game.
Now you tell me, you reprobate! Googling, indeed! :grumpy:
I thought we were supposed to figure it out by ourselves.

This was originally called "rod wax" and was considered a nuisance till someone put it in jars and sold it.
When I first read this, my immediate thought was 'turtle wax'. Turned out I was right. :biggrin:

Moonbear
May26-05, 11:29 PM
When I first read this, my immediate thought was 'turtle wax'. Turned out I was right. :biggrin:
:rofl: :rofl: Now get googling, my question awaits! :biggrin: There's more than just the obvious clue there.

JamesU
May26-05, 11:37 PM
need more clues!

Moonbear
May26-05, 11:40 PM
I'm sure all the necessary clues are there. :devil:

Okay, but now I think it's going to be too easy: its 40th anniversary was commemorated with a gourmet recipe book.

Evo
May26-05, 11:55 PM
Originally Posted by Ivan Seeking
Any way that you can find the answer is fair game.

Now you tell me, you reprobate! Googling, indeed! :grumpy:
I thought we were supposed to figure it out by ourselves.We ARE supposed to know it ourselves. :grumpy: Googling is ok if you think you know the answer but need to verify.

NOT HAVING A CLUE AND GOOGLING THE HINT IS WRONG!!!!! :devil: :grumpy: :mad:

I'm for making this a visual clues only so no googling can be done.

Moonbear
May26-05, 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by Ivan Seeking
Any way that you can find the answer is fair game.

We ARE supposed to know it ourselves. :grumpy: Googling is ok if you think you know the answer but need to verify.

NOT HAVING A CLUE AND GOOGLING THE HINT IS WRONG!!!!! :devil: :grumpy: :mad:

I'm for making this a visual clues only so no googling can be done.
I didn't see any rules about not googling. I thought the idea was to try to come up with clues that can't be quickly googled to outsmart the googlers. (How many new word forms can I make up using "google?" :rofl:)

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:00 AM
NOT HAVING A CLUE AND GOOGLING THE HINT IS WRONG!!!!!
Too late, everyone's doing it.

Evo
May27-05, 12:02 AM
I didn't see any rules about not googling. I thought the idea was to try to come up with clues that can't be quickly googled to outsmart the googlers. (How many new word forms can I make up using "google?" :rofl:)Gokul is against googling, I allow some googling. Gokul's right, if googling the answer is ok, it's just a "first here wins" and there's no intellectual contest. :mad: What's the point?

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:02 AM
Okay, I'm just going to check that my next one hasn't already made an appearance here before I post it...brb!

Okay kiddies, listen up! Here's the next clue:
The first model came out in turquoise and cost $15.95.
Wild guess: 1st electric stove?

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:04 AM
Gokul is against googling, I allow some googling. Gokul's right, if googling the answer is ok, it's just a "first here wins" and there's no intellectual contest. :mad:
Not true; googling is an art, and frequently just googling the clues doesn't get you anywhere. You have to be clever about what you punch in. Also, there is an art to giving clues that are ungooglable.

Moonbear
May27-05, 12:04 AM
Wild guess: 1st electric stove?
Nope, but you're warm.

JamesU
May27-05, 12:05 AM
first model car

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:06 AM
Nope, but you're warm.
Not the "easy bake" oven is it?

Moonbear
May27-05, 12:07 AM
Gokul is against googling, I allow some googling. Gokul's right, if googling the answer is ok, it's just a "first here wins" and there's no intellectual contest. :mad: What's the point?
I hadn't been following this whole thread, but I just went back to the first page, and there were no anti-google rules. I think more of the challenge is in writing a good google-proof clue. :approve:

Moonbear
May27-05, 12:07 AM
Not the "easy bake" oven is it?
Yes, it is! :biggrin: You're up.

Edit: Here's an NPR site with two of those Easy-Bake "gourmet" recipes.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1534572

Art Smith's Pecan Ice Box Cookies

Makes 2 dozen cookies, baked two at a time

Considering you have to bake the cookies 20 min, that's sure a devious way to keep the kids busy on a rainy weekend! :rofl:

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:10 AM
Yes, it is! :biggrin: You're up.
Boy, they were expensive. And Turquoise?


OK: 1920, invented because his wife was prone to minor accidents while cooking.

Moonbear
May27-05, 12:14 AM
Boy, they were expensive. And Turquoise?
The first one came out in 1963 (that explains turquoise). Yep, sounds expensive to me, even by modern standards, but they sold over 500,000 of them in the first year!


OK: 1920, invented because his wife was prone to minor accidents while cooking.
Wild guess: oven mitts?

JamesU
May27-05, 12:15 AM
earle dickenson, band-aid

Evo
May27-05, 12:16 AM
I hadn't been following this whole thread, but I just went back to the first page, and there were no anti-google rules. I think more of the challenge is in writing a good google-proof clue. :approve:The anti-google rules were discussed in another thread.

If my vast worthless wealth of knowledge means nothing, I'm not playing. :cry: It's all I have, I don't have the formal education Moonbear has. I don't know all the cool stuff she knows, but I have a ton of trivial cr@p memorized. :frown: Then someone with NO KNOWLEDGE can just type the clues into google and win without knowing anything??? A POX UPON THEM!!!!!! :mad:

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:16 AM
earle dickenson, band-aid
Dickson, not dickenson. Yes.

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:18 AM
Then someone with NO KNOWLEDGE can just type the clues into google and win without knowing anything??? A POX UPON THEM!!!!!! :mad:
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!!!!!!

JamesU
May27-05, 12:18 AM
anyway,

Invented in 1927 to help kill mosquitoes carrying malaria during WWII.

Moonbear
May27-05, 12:21 AM
anyway,

Invented in 1927 to help kill mosquitoes carrying malaria during WWII.
I actually might know this without any google aids. DEET.
Nevermind: DEET wasn't invented until the 1950s according to the site I just looked it up on. :frown:

Evo
May27-05, 12:21 AM
Aaaagghh. At least try to pretend you know the answer. I can't take it. Gokul, I understand why you left. (hangs head in sorrow)

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:22 AM
anyway,

Invented in 1927 to help kill mosquitoes carrying malaria during WWII.
smudge pots?

JamesU
May27-05, 12:23 AM
no, no NO ,NO! GOOGLE

Evo
May27-05, 12:23 AM
I actually might know this without any google aids. DEET.Actually, MB, I think you've discussed DEET before.

SEE. Moonbear actually KNOWS an answer!!!!

Feels good, doesn't it??

(hopefully people will feel guilty now and poor Evo can sneek an answer in) :devil:

JamesU
May27-05, 12:24 AM
WTF is DEET?

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:25 AM
Aaaagghh. At least try to pretend you know the answer. I can't take it. Gokul, I understand why you left. (hangs head in sorrow)
If you already know the answer you can type it in faster than anyone can google it. If you don't know, you're still at no more of a disadvantage than anyone else who'se googling.

The real trick is to phrase your questions so that people have to do some indirect googling.

Moonbear
May27-05, 12:26 AM
Actually, MB, I think you've discussed DEET before.

SEE. Moonbear actually KNOWS an answer!!!!

Feels good, doesn't it??

(hopefully people will feel guilty now and poor Evo can sneek an answer in) :devil:
But, alas, it seems to be wrong upon attempted google confirmation. :cry:

JamesU
May27-05, 12:26 AM
OKAY, COPY and PASTE my question into google, you'll find it

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:27 AM
WTF is DEET?
Oh! Oh! I know! It's a popular mosquito repellent! My turn!

JamesU
May27-05, 12:28 AM
no, it HELPED the mosquito reppelants. It also helps your house smell good

Moonbear
May27-05, 12:29 AM
WTF is DEET?
http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/factsheets/chemicals/deet.htm
1. What is DEET?

DEET (chemical name, N,N-diethyl-meta-toluamide) is the active ingredient in many insect repellent products. It is used to repel biting pests such as mosquitoes and ticks, including ticks that may carry Lyme disease. Every year, approximately one-third of the U.S. population is expected to use DEET. Products containing DEET currently are available to the public in a variety of liquids, lotions, sprays, and impregnated materials (e.g., wrist bands). Formulations registered for direct application to human skin contain from 4 to 100% DEET. Except for a few veterinary uses, DEET is registered for use by consumers, and it is not used on food.

DEET is designed for direct application to human skin to repel insects, rather than kill them. After it was developed by the U.S. Army in 1946, DEET was registered for use by the general public in 1957. Approximately 230 products containing DEET are currently registered with EPA by about 70 different companies.

Evo
May27-05, 12:29 AM
OKAY, COPY and PASTE my question into google, you'll find itBut what's the fun in that?

(I know, I'm one of those freaks that like tests) :blushing:

Even a good guess that's wrong is better than no guess.

JamesU
May27-05, 12:30 AM
:rolleyes: OMFG

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:31 AM
Ddt?.........

Evo
May27-05, 12:31 AM
Maybe we should have a "google this" thread?

JamesU
May27-05, 12:32 AM
you CAN do it :rolleyes:

Evo
May27-05, 12:34 AM
Even danger has shunned this thread since he realized it was a googling contest.

This thread is BELOW DANGER's STANDARDS!!!

You're a good person danger. :approve:

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:34 AM
Maybe we should have a "google this" thread?
Go back and look at the very first thing Wolram posted. Even with google, I couldn't figure out what it was.

JamesU
May27-05, 12:34 AM
Can Can Can Can Can Can

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:36 AM
Can Can Can Can Can Can
So, you're saying it's not DDT?

JamesU
May27-05, 12:37 AM
I have no idea what DDT is, but it's probably not. aero

Evo
May27-05, 12:38 AM
Go back and look at the very first thing Wolram posted. Even with google, I couldn't figure out what it was.That's because certain people are way above us zoobie. We will never be on thier level, and we are all right with that. :smile:

I figure if I have a vague memory of the subject and need to google to confirm it, it's ok. But, I won't answer if I really have no clue.

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:39 AM
Even danger the bottom feeder has shunned this thread since he realized it was a googling contest.

This thread is BELOW DANGER's THE BOTTOM FEEDER'S STANDARDS!!!

You're a good person bottom feeder danger. :approve:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx

JamesU
May27-05, 12:39 AM
OMFG! spray!

Evo
May27-05, 12:39 AM
I have no idea what DDT is, but it's probably not. aeroDEET's not DDT.

JamesU
May27-05, 12:40 AM
I don't know what either of those are! I've given you aero can and spray, FIGURE IT OUT!

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:42 AM
I have no idea what DDT is, but it's probably not. aero
More clues please.

JamesU
May27-05, 12:44 AM
Aero can sprays mechanically air freshener repellant

Moonbear
May27-05, 12:46 AM
:rofl: Hmm..yomamma, do you think you can spell it out for us? Okay, I'll bite, aerosol can.

But I'm still trying to think of a clever next clue.

JamesU
May27-05, 12:47 AM
OMFG finally. I gave you all those hints just scattered

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:51 AM
anyway,

Invented in 1927 to help kill mosquitoes carrying malaria during WWII.
So, in 1927 they already knew there would be a WWII? Why didn't they just kill Hitler, instead of working on the coming mosquito problem?

JamesU
May27-05, 12:52 AM
I copied t off of a website, it's not mine

Moonbear
May27-05, 12:55 AM
Okay...I almost have the next clue ready...just confirming some details first.

JamesU
May27-05, 12:55 AM
Shut up :frown:

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 12:59 AM
People should have a supply of clues ready in case they guess right so they can throw them right out and people don't have to wait.

JamesU
May27-05, 01:00 AM
I do :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 01:01 AM
Besides, Evo, how could anyone ever get a single one of the technical things Ivan posts without googling?

JamesU
May27-05, 01:02 AM
yahooing or askjeevesing

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 01:04 AM
yahooing or askjeevesing
That's right and if moonbar doesn't post soon I'm going to go to a different thread or watch TV.

JamesU
May27-05, 01:05 AM
I'm watching the daily show :biggrin:

Moonbear
May27-05, 01:06 AM
Okay, in the spirit of a somewhat google proof clue, a Highlander might store this in a flask of the same name. Two-part answer required: 1) What is the item being stored? 2) By what name is the flask more commonly known?

Moonbear
May27-05, 01:09 AM
That's right and if moonbar doesn't post soon I'm going to go to a different thread or watch TV.
Yeesh! Such impatience! Sorry, I thought I had a clue lined up, but my first idea didn't hold up to google scrutiny. :redface:

JamesU
May27-05, 01:21 AM
Estimation of zoobie's answer
1) beer
2)drunkbucket

Mk
May27-05, 01:21 AM
lol I went out and people turned vicious!

A company started in Daegu, Korea. They are now mainly an electronics company, after sugar production failed. They got permission to build half of what huge structure in the southern hemisphere?

Mk
May27-05, 01:23 AM
I noticed Moonbear's question. Hmm, it looks difficult.

Moonbear
May27-05, 01:23 AM
lol I went out and people turned vicious!

A company started in Daegu, Korea. They are now mainly an electronics company, after sugar production failed. They got permission to build half of what huge structure in the southern hemisphere?
Hey! I already have a question on the table here. :tongue:

JamesU
May27-05, 01:24 AM
Come see moonbear and Mk take it out on each other. Bets are no less that $25!

Moonbear
May27-05, 01:24 AM
I noticed Moonbear's question. Hmm, it looks difficult.
I hope so...I need some time to breathe and respond to other threads while you're figuring it out. :biggrin:

JamesU
May27-05, 01:28 AM
:zzz: goodnight, I'm going to sleep. and by going to sleep, I mean staying up until 2:00 AM watching tv

Mk
May27-05, 01:33 AM
Okay, in the spirit of a somewhat google proof clue, a Highlander might store this in a flask of the same name. Two-part answer required: 1) What is the item being stored? 2) By what name is the flask more commonly known?
1) Curses
2) Pandora's Box

:frown: Maybe.

Huckleberry
May27-05, 01:34 AM
Is it the highlander's touch that contains the elixer of life?

Mk
May27-05, 01:35 AM
1) Some sort of alcholic drink?

1) Poison?

Mk
May27-05, 01:37 AM
Huckleberry wins?

Moonbear
May27-05, 01:42 AM
Is it the highlander's touch that contains the elixer of life?
Nope.

1) Some sort of alcholic drink?

1) Poison?
LOL! Yeah, I guess some people would say pick your poison. An alcoholic drink would be on the right path.

Huckleberry
May27-05, 01:52 AM
A tifflask of brandy?

Moonbear
May27-05, 01:58 AM
A tifflask of brandy?
Nope, remember, the flask and beverage must share a common name.

Danger
May27-05, 01:58 AM
You're a good person danger. :approve:
Thanks, sweetie. Really, I'm a jerk, but I try to hide it when I'm around people I like.

Besides, Evo, how could anyone ever get a single one of the technical things Ivan posts without googling?
What world do you live in? Do you seriously think that I either 'Googled' or looked up in a book the radio telescope or photocell answers? That's cheating as far as I'm concerned. I was really enjoying this thread until I found out what people were doing; now I'll just read it once in a while. I didn't even know what a 'Google' was until a couple of weeks after I came to PF (early March), and I still sure as hell don't know enough about it to look up a clue or 'Google-proof' one of my own. The problem is, even if the rules say 'no Googling' they're still going to do it.

Huckleberry
May27-05, 02:03 AM
*huck raises his hand and bows his head*

Hi, my name is Huckleberry and I am a google addict.

Moonbear's question appears to be googleproof though

Danger
May27-05, 02:06 AM
Nope, remember, the flask and beverage must share a common name.
Not participating any more, but this is one that aggravates me. I'm 25% Highland, 25% Lowland, and 100% alcoholic, and I can't think of the answer. I'll keep trying to, though.

Mk
May27-05, 02:06 AM
Coffee cup?

Coffee is what's inside, and the flask is called a coffee cup!

Moonbear
May27-05, 02:08 AM
Coffee cup?

Coffee is what's inside, and the flask is called a coffee cup!
We've established the contents are alcoholic ("spirit" and "proof" were supposed to hint at that.)

Moonbear
May27-05, 02:10 AM
Moonbear's question appears to be googleproof though
That was my plan. You have to figure out at least part of it before you can google anything. :devil:

Edit: sorry folks, it's past my bedtime. I'll return tomorrow to see if there's any new progress on this one and to consider some additional clues if you're still stuck.

Huckleberry
May27-05, 02:20 AM
Sour fruit in a sour fruit flask?

Mk
May27-05, 02:23 AM
Wine cooler!
Its a drink and a cooler for wine!

Waha! Got it!

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 02:32 AM
Dewars?....

JamesU
May27-05, 02:38 AM
:zzz: I'm back, couldn't resist.

Mk
May27-05, 02:40 AM
lol, when its my turn I'll let you give a question, if you want. Have you given one?

Moonbear, this is a fair one right? You don't have to live under giant artichoke or pig to get it right?

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 02:51 AM
It was 10 feet tall, occupied 1,000 square feet of floor- space, weighed in at approximately 30 tons, and used more than 70,000 resistors, 10,000 capacitors, 6,000 switches, and 18,000 vacuum tubes. The final machine required 150 kilowatts of power, which was enough to light a small town.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
what was it?
Here's post #1. Where does it say "No Googling"? The no googling rule was something that some people decided to impose on themselves with no outside instruction to do so.

Mk
May27-05, 02:56 AM
Tru dat! I'm for googling. Everyone in the thread should. Besides, some of these are quite diffucult with googling.

Danger
May27-05, 03:10 AM
Here's post #1. Where does it say "No Googling"? The no googling rule was something that some people decided to impose on themselves with no outside instruction to do so.
I took it to be a test of both knowledge and reasoning. Both of those are out the window as soon as you start looking things up. I mean, really, the ENIAC question was so obvious that there should have been no reason for anyone to look anything up. (Well, kids maybe. ENIAC and MultiVac were the first 2 things that I had to study for Data Processing class in grade 10.)

Mk
May27-05, 03:24 AM
I always use knowlege, reasoning, literture in my home, and the internet for the questions. But yeah, ENIAC was really easy, it only required the first two.

Mk
May27-05, 03:28 AM
I guess If we won't recieve confirmation from Moonbear for a while, we could try a crack at mine?

A company started in Daegu, Korea. They are now mainly an electronics company, after sugar production failed. They got permission to build half of what huge structure in the southern hemisphere?

I suggest using the four resources.

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 03:32 AM
I took it to be a test of both knowledge and reasoning. Both of those are out the window as soon as you start looking things up.
I took it to be a fun thread to pass the time. No one's being graded. Anyone who knows the answer off the top of their head can automatically get it into the thread before anyone could possibly google it, so the well read people with good memories win the round anyway.

Mk
May27-05, 03:36 AM
Except of course some of the questions, like Ivan's, or some of mine, would be impossible to know off the top of your head.

matthyaouw
May27-05, 05:26 AM
Okay, in the spirit of a somewhat google proof clue, a Highlander might store this in a flask of the same name. Two-part answer required: 1) What is the item being stored? 2) By what name is the flask more commonly known?

Whisky (a good single malt, prefereably :biggrin:) in a hip flask I'd assume.

matthyaouw
May27-05, 05:29 AM
Invented in the 1930s this was a new variation on something well known previously. Its new twist allowed it to be a lot louder than its predecessors. It is still commonly used today.

No one guessed this one. It was the electric guitar.

Mk
May27-05, 05:33 AM
In 1846, Dewar's first master blender employed a method of handcrafting whisky, creating John Dewar and Sons' most treasured blend. After carefully blending selected quality malt and grain whiskies (each of which was at least 12 years old), the master blender - When satisfied with his creation-would "marry" the resulting blend. That kind of skill and knowledge has been passed down only from master blender to master blender over successive generations.
1) Scotch
2) A dewar

Mk
May27-05, 05:59 AM
Anyone want to try mine since Moonbear won't be here for a while?

brewnog
May27-05, 06:42 AM
MK, it is Samsung's big tower in Dubai?


Anyway, I don't see any problem using the internet as a resource. Half the fun is knowing where to look, and it's sometimes quite educational. I'll admit that I've used it to look up a few dates, and especially for help setting up my own clues. It's like anything else, if you cheat then you don't get the satisfaction out of it, and it's not like anyone's marking you!

Oh, except Danger, we're marking you... :tongue:

Mk
May27-05, 06:48 AM
No, you have half of it right. :smile:



And the United Arab Emirates is in the Northern Hemisphere.

brewnog
May27-05, 06:52 AM
Urrrm, it's half a mile tall?!


Ooh yeah, northern hemisphere, right!

Mk
May27-05, 07:27 AM
I'll tell you its more than 400 meters tall. The company only got permission to build HALF of it, that means there's TWO parts.

I'm sure you'll all be fair. You'll know the answer when you get it. But I will post it in white:

The answer is found in the last line of the first paragraph. Paste this in your address bar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Group#1990s Have a good day, Mk.

Moonbear
May27-05, 10:39 AM
In 1846, Dewar's first master blender employed a method of handcrafting whisky, creating John Dewar and Sons' most treasured blend. After carefully blending selected quality malt and grain whiskies (each of which was at least 12 years old), the master blender - When satisfied with his creation-would "marry" the resulting blend. That kind of skill and knowledge has been passed down only from master blender to master blender over successive generations.
1) Scotch
2) A dewar

Woo hoo...some thinking outside the box required, huh? Now, the only part left is what is the dewar flask more commonly known as? (This is usually a brand name.)

Moonbear
May27-05, 10:41 AM
Dewars?....
Oh, looks like zooby got this part first. Depending on who gets the last part, a few folks might have to share the prize.

Moonbear
May27-05, 10:54 AM
I took it to be a fun thread to pass the time. No one's being graded. Anyone who knows the answer off the top of their head can automatically get it into the thread before anyone could possibly google it, so the well read people with good memories win the round anyway.
The no-Google rule applied to different trivia quizzes, not this one. The other ones weren't pass-the-torch games like this one though, it was just a list of 10 or 20 questions that would have been far too quickly answered if they were googled and was intended to get those threads to last awhile. This one doesn't need a no-Google rule, because the whole game stalls if nobody knows the answer (and with some of these obscure inventions, nobody would know it off the top of their head). Honestly, I look at it as both a challenge to the questioner and answerer. I consider it more like an internet scavenger hunt...here are some clues, now see if you can find it. If the answer can be googled quickly then the question was too easy (then again, that gives everyone a chance to play, not just those who are endless fonts of trivia).

JamesU
May27-05, 01:12 PM
sears? just a guess, sears tower

Gokul43201
May27-05, 01:51 PM
Woah, left this thread for a couple days....came back to find myself in the dust.

And speaking of "Googling" Moonbear, what was that again about verbifying brand names ?

Dewar is a great guess Zoob. Would the brand name Moonie's looking for be Thermos ? (obvious guess for someone working in Low-Temp Physics)

Zoob, you're up next.

Gokul43201
May27-05, 01:55 PM
I have a short trivia quiz (on mostly obscure literary references) nearly ready. But it would be all too Googlable...

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 02:00 PM
I have a short trivia quiz (on mostly obscure literary references) nearly ready. But it would be all too Googlable...
If you explicitely say, "no googling" people will stick to the rule.


Go ahead and ask one Gokul, if you're sure "Thermos" is correct. I was thinking "Dewars" was the name both of the whiskey and the flask.

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 02:47 PM
I have intended that every question asked could be googled. I see this as a test of google proof questions, unless otherwise specified.

Moonbear
May27-05, 03:54 PM
Woah, left this thread for a couple days....came back to find myself in the dust.

And speaking of "Googling" Moonbear, what was that again about verbifying brand names ?

Dewar is a great guess Zoob. Would the brand name Moonie's looking for be Thermos ? (obvious guess for someone working in Low-Temp Physics)

Zoob, you're up next.

Yep, that was what I was looking for. To sum up, Dewar's scotch-whiskey (they're trademark includes a Highlander, and Highlander also hints at Scotch if you didn't know the trademark) in a Dewar flask, which is better known as a Thermos. :biggrin:

BicycleTree
May27-05, 03:56 PM
And a nasty drunk!

Moonbear
May27-05, 04:01 PM
I have intended that every question asked could be googled. I see this as a test of google proof questions, unless otherwise specified.

So, why don't we just amend the rules that we'll assume googling (or Yahooing or running off to the encyclopedias, or whatever other search method you prefer) is allowed unless the person asking the question specifically invokes a no-google rule. :smile: I know I carefully chose my question so google wasn't going to help (I thought my barbed wire question would work that way too, but I didn't know every book ever written on inventions included barbed wire as an example :rofl:). That's what took me so long writing a question last night, because I tossed out another one that every clue I tried to write pointed way too quickly to the answer in google. I better start working on a back-up supply of questions so Zooby doesn't get miffed that I take so long next time. :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 04:17 PM
Gokul's turn.

Evo
May27-05, 04:30 PM
I think googling is ok to confirm what you are guessing, or flesh out the answer, but not to actually look for the answer.

I thought everyone here was so smart and now I am terribly disillusioned. :frown: zoobie... :frown:

Ivan, you google for answers??? I idolized you. :cry:

Gokul, please tell me you don't google answers.

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 04:30 PM
This thread is moving so fast that it left scorch marks on my screen.

What do you think everyone; Google is okay unless otherwise specified?

Also, I like how google is now a verb. :biggrin:

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 04:33 PM
Ivan, you google for answers??? I idolized you. :cry:

I think I probably googled about half of my answers, so could you still idolize my left side? :frown:

Evo
May27-05, 04:36 PM
I think I probably googled about half of my answers, so could you still idolize my left side? :frown:But you already "knew" the answer, right? You just googled to confirm your guess??? Because that's ok, I do that (and if I do it, it's ok). :tongue:

I guess I could idolize your left side. Is that the side your spare foot is on?

Moonbear
May27-05, 04:37 PM
Also, I like how google is now a verb. :biggrin:
I think I've used google as every part of speech possible! :rofl: I'm waiting for the grammar police to knock on my door any minute now. :uhh:

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 04:42 PM
I thought everyone here was so smart and now I am terribly disillusioned. :frown: zoobie... :frown:
Googling is smart. Wasting your brain storage space with masses of facts you never use is not smart. This is why austistic-savants are basically helpless people who can't take care of themselves, despite being able to remember the date of every day it rained since calendars were invented.

JamesU
May27-05, 04:49 PM
I think I've used google as every part of speech possible! :rofl: I'm waiting for the grammar police to knock on my door any minute now. :uhh:
(ppstt...moonbear...the grammar police don't exist. They're not real Like santa claus or the easter bunny)

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 04:53 PM
There are definitely questions that a quick google will find. But if worded well, google only helps if you have already figured out part of the answer; say the subject. For example, I was amazed at how quickly I was able to guess the RAT on about page two, in response to Nereid's question. It was a matter of anticipating Nereid as much as following the clue given. No amount of googling alone would have produced the answer. Of course it was a bit of a lucky guess. :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 04:56 PM
That is true. Often, if you don't have a solid lead, google gets you nowhere.

Gokul43201
May27-05, 05:14 PM
It was all of the below ... (Google if you wish; but this is easily Googlable, so...)

-Pauli's last room number
-Schwinger's license plate number
-the source of Arthur Eddington's embarrassment

What was it ?

Evo
May27-05, 05:23 PM
That is true. Often, if you don't have a solid lead, google gets you nowhere.I'm a master googler.

Gokul43201
May27-05, 05:25 PM
Well then, get your gloves on and get going...I'm not going to stick around forever to okay the answer to this one.

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 05:32 PM
It was all of the below ... (Google if you wish; but this is easily Googlable, so...)

-Pauli's last room number
-Schwinger's license plate number
-the source of Arthur Eddington's embarrassment

What was it ?
The number 137

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 05:36 PM
I'm a master googler.
I turned yellow the other night.

Gokul43201
May27-05, 05:39 PM
The number 137Nice hit ! You're next.

I'll type up an explanation meanwhile.

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 05:42 PM
This was the largest of its kind ever built at the time. It could produce 1600 horsepower, and was about 20 feet tall. What was it, and where was it first installed? Hint: centenial

JamesU
May27-05, 05:45 PM
a horse pyramid containing 1600 horses?

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 05:47 PM
a horse pyramid containing 1600 horses?
Go to your room. And no desert!

JamesU
May27-05, 05:50 PM
BUT I WANNA ICECREAMSUNDAE!!! :cry:

Gokul43201
May27-05, 05:50 PM
\alpha = \frac {e^2}{2 \epsilon _o hc} \approx \frac {1}{137}

The following link is not from any reputed scientific source, and hence must be taken as a pop-sci account, with a little glitter thrown in for fun. The historical facts in it, however, are accurate and hence make it very read-worthy.

http://www.137.com/137/

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 05:53 PM
This was the largest of its kind ever built at the time. It could produce 1600 horsepower, and was about 20 feet tall. What was it, and where was it first installed? Hint: centenial

Without googling, I would say

The Centennial celebrated American industrial power. Its most famous exhibit was the gigantic 1600-HP Corliss steam engine that powered Machinery Hall. The first piece of the Statue of Liberty -- the hand and torch -- had just arrived from France and was put on exhibit. But it paled against the machinery -- the fruit of American factories, the raw muscle of our industries.
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi205.htm

But it's just a googleless guess. :uhh:

Gokul43201
May27-05, 05:54 PM
This was the largest of its kind ever built at the time. It could produce 1600 horsepower, and was about 20 feet tall. What was it, and where was it first installed? Hint: centenialIf not for the "installed" bit, some WWII bomber might have fit the bill.

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 06:12 PM
Without googling, I would say...
Just a minute while I google the answer.....
........

......YES!

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 06:17 PM
Okay now wait a minute I got distracted... I still need to take a moment to think of a good googleproof question.

Better yet, I'll google for one! :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 06:23 PM
http://www.137.com/137/
Very interesting story.

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 06:31 PM
Discovered in the mid 1800's:

"It is an up-faulted monoclinal gritty conglomerate [about] 5 miles long and 2 miles across..."

Now google that!

Danger
May27-05, 06:35 PM
Discovered in the mid 1800's:



Now google that!
Just want to double-check. That is really 'monoclinal', not a typo of 'monoclonal', right?

Anyhow, sounds like some kind of volcanic island or reef.

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 06:37 PM
I added the [about], don't know why. :yuck: I guess its automatic.

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 06:38 PM
It is "monoclinal".

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 06:39 PM
Devil's tower

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 06:43 PM
Not Devil's Tower

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 06:44 PM
Ayres rock (red rock) Australia.

Gokul43201
May27-05, 06:45 PM
'Monoclinal' must be the geogolists' adjectival form of the already happy adjective, 'monoclinic' (which is a crystal lattice structure familiar to physicists and materials scientists). Geologists suck ! :yuck:

<runs to escape barrage of rotten tomatoes, eggs and dolomite chunks>

Ayers Rock sounds like a winner...

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 06:52 PM
Not Ayers rock.

Yes, I loved the language, which is why I chose to quote it. :biggrin:

Danger
May27-05, 06:54 PM
'Monoclinal' must be the geogolists' adjectival form of the already happy adjective, 'monoclinic' (which is a crystal lattice structure familiar to physicists and materials scientists).
Thanks for that clarification. I was figuring that monoclinal must mean 'flat'.

Ayers Rock sounds like a winner...
But he said that it was discovered in the 1800's. There were Aboriginies in Oz thousands of years before that.

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 06:56 PM
It's not Ayers rock, but I also take issue with the word "discovered".

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 06:56 PM
The sioux aquifer

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 06:58 PM
Not the sioux aquifer. The geography has gotten worse.

hypnagogue
May27-05, 07:00 PM
Hell's Half Acre fault?

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 07:03 PM
Hell's Half Acre fault?

Hey stranger!

No, but since I tried it first, I was waiting for that link to come up. :biggrin:

Danger
May27-05, 07:04 PM
I don't know why I was thinking volcanic. 'Upthrust' is more indicative of crustal shifts. So this is some honkin' huge chunk of pumice or something that is remote enough to have gone unnoticed until the 19th century.

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 07:05 PM
But we were doing quite well down under.

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 07:06 PM
...and monoclinal is a word that only a geologist could love.

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 07:09 PM
A direct clue: A world's record

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 07:13 PM
btw, this is not a clue, why doesn't this thread have a rating yet? It should I think. I voted for five stars. :approve:

dextercioby
May27-05, 07:17 PM
Kursk Magnetic Anomaly (a giant iron ore)...?

Daniel.

brewnog
May27-05, 07:19 PM
Great Barrier Reef?

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 07:26 PM
Nope, nope.

Lets see if this kills it.

discovered June 3, 1858.

Danger
May27-05, 07:27 PM
Great Barrier Reef?
First thing that I thought of, but that's organic, not geological.

brewnog
May27-05, 07:29 PM
Nope, nope.

Lets see if this kills it.

discovered June 3, 1858.

Aaaaahhhh!

Got it, but this time I feel like I cheated.


Edit: No wait, I don't. Carry on...

Danger
May27-05, 07:32 PM
Got it,

Edit: No wait, I don't. Carry on...
Your decisiveness is what makes you such a great leader. :tongue:

JamesU
May27-05, 07:33 PM
How do you cheat on this thread?
\

brewnog
May27-05, 07:33 PM
Your decisiveness is what makes you such a great leader. :tongue:

Why does nobody ever follow?!

Danger
May27-05, 07:35 PM
Why does nobody ever follow?!
We will. Right now, we're all just milling around waiting for you to pick a direction.

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 07:35 PM
"...about 200 miles west of Carnarvon..."

Danger
May27-05, 07:37 PM
I'm outta this one, guys. My geography is almost as bad as my math.

brewnog
May27-05, 07:37 PM
Ailsa Craig?!

Getting vague now, cos that's wrong wrong wrong too.


Some kind of oil field?

JamesU
May27-05, 07:39 PM
Kormoran? whatever that is?

Ivan Seeking
May27-05, 07:41 PM
My clues came from the 1976 Guinness Book of World's Records, but this is the beast.

Mount Augustus, or Burringurrah as it is known by the local Wadjari Aboriginal people, is about 850 kilometres from Perth and midway between the Great Northern and North West Coastal highways. One of the most spectacular solitary peaks in the world, it rises 717 metres above a stony, red sandplain of arid shrubland—dominated by wattles, cassias and eremophilas—and is clearly visible from the air for more than 160 kilometres.

The rock itself, which culminates in a small peak on a plateau, is about eight kilometres long and covers an area of 4,795 hectares. At about twice the size of Uluru [Ayers Rock] it is the biggest 'rock' in the world....
http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/mount_augustus.html

I defer to anyone who wishes. Gotta go for now.

brewnog
May27-05, 07:46 PM
Ok, this one is a bit vague.

In April 1982, the number "392" got into the Guinness Book of Records. Why?

DaveC426913
May27-05, 07:53 PM
Your backyard (assuming you have one) is plagued by these lobster cousins.

What are they?

zoobyshoe
May27-05, 07:55 PM
Your backyard (assuming you have one) is plagued by these lobster cousins.

What are they?
Brew noggin already posted a quetion.

brewnog
May27-05, 07:57 PM
Indeed I did, but I'll take a guess at Dave's anyway.

Earwigs?

Huckleberry
May27-05, 07:59 PM
Tallest woman Zeng Jinlian (China) measured 8 ft. 1.75 in. (2.48 m) when she died on February 13, 1982.The tallest woman in the world?

brewnog
May27-05, 07:59 PM
The tallest woman in the world?

Nope. Another decent guess and you can have clue 2.

JamesU
May27-05, 08:02 PM
A peak discharge of daily rainfall in massawipi of 392 m/s took place in 1982


too much googleing :yuck:

brewnog
May27-05, 08:04 PM
Wow, I'm impressed, but no. Did you make that up?!


Clue 2: You might find one of these leading a tribe of Native American Indians.

JamesU
May27-05, 08:11 PM
c-can-nt...d-d-d-do..a-anymo-ore...g-g-goo-ogli-ing-g

brewnog
May27-05, 08:14 PM
Heheheh.

The 392 record is a score.

JamesU
May27-05, 08:18 PM
I CANT!£▬±bÑV I'm
Going INSANE!!!!!!!!!

Mk
May27-05, 08:53 PM
The Kansas City Chiefs, outgained the Pittsburgh Steelers 392-235 in 1982.

Mk
May27-05, 08:57 PM
Oh, that was in 1997.
But the highest score in a single move in Scrabble was made by Karl Khoshnaw from Manchester, UK, CAZIQUES (West Indian Chiefs). He made 392 points in 1982.

Should've known, brewnog's from Manchester.

Mk
May27-05, 09:34 PM
Whoever wants to do one can do one.

JamesU
May27-05, 11:09 PM
Who ate el paso barbecue tonight, is full, and had to go go to lowes?

Mk
May27-05, 11:17 PM
Your mom, whose total rest mass is approximately equal to that of a neutron star traveling at (1-(10^-1000))c.

JamesU
May27-05, 11:24 PM
No, my cat's rest mass is approximately equal to that of a neutron star traveling at (1-(10^-1000))c. I was the one who did all that NEW QUESTION!

Mk
May27-05, 11:30 PM
Your mom

Convient proof the universe is expanding exponetially.

Huckleberry
May27-05, 11:30 PM
Over 400 prisoners were intentionally infected with this parasite in the 1940's. Name the parasite and the city they were in.

Mk
May27-05, 11:44 PM
In the mid-1980s a company famous for making small replicate non-flammable automobiles, manufactured a "magic" puzzle that was not a cube. Who was the inventor? Name one other famous puzzle/toy that he invented.

JamesU
May27-05, 11:44 PM
I can't find the city but I know you're talking about pellagra

Mk
May27-05, 11:56 PM
The Prisoners are POWs right?

Mk
May27-05, 11:57 PM
Pellagra is a vitamin deficiency disease caused by dietary lack of niacin and protein, not a parisite. Good guess though.

Huckleberry
May28-05, 12:06 AM
Oops, I was catching up in another thread.

It isn't pellagra. They were not POW's. They were imprisoned criminals.

a hint. At the trial of Nuremburg Germany uses this incident to justify their actions in concentration camps, or at least to claim that they didn't act any differently than other nations have.

JamesU
May28-05, 12:08 AM
Oh! malaria in chicago

Huckleberry
May28-05, 12:12 AM
yup you got it

JamesU
May28-05, 12:14 AM
Two great minds, one interest. Two important men, one invention. Two close friends, one story. What did they invent and who were they?

Most people have them

Mk
May28-05, 12:27 AM
I guess its not the Brothers Grimm....

Huckleberry
May28-05, 12:29 AM
I suppose its not the Wright Brothers and the airplane. Not many people own those.

JamesU
May28-05, 12:31 AM
Nope, VERY common Item. I know MK and Huck have used them(as well as alot more)

Huckleberry
May28-05, 12:40 AM
Duryea brothers and the first gasoline powered automobilies.

JamesU
May28-05, 12:44 AM
Sorry, nope. no cars or any automobiles. think circut city

Mk
May28-05, 12:48 AM
Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, they started Apple Computer and are credited with initiating the entry of computers into private homes.

JamesU
May28-05, 12:49 AM
good job Mk!

Mk
May28-05, 12:50 AM
What animal has the longest penis to body length ratio? Give an approximate ratio.

Mk
May28-05, 12:51 AM
Oh, or should we use my old one I posted before I saw Huckleberry's?

In the mid-1980s a company famous for making small replicate non-flammable automobiles, manufactured a "magic" puzzle that was not a cube. Who was the inventor? Name one other famous puzzle/toy that he invented.

Huckleberry
May28-05, 12:52 AM
I should have guessed the Mac reference from the killer thread.

JamesU
May28-05, 12:53 AM
I think you should go to the old one...

Huckleberry
May28-05, 12:55 AM
I would guess the human.

Mk
May28-05, 12:58 AM
Not a human.

JamesU
May28-05, 12:59 AM
hOW THE HELL ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW?

Mk
May28-05, 01:02 AM
Evo knows a bunch of useless trivia, so does Google and Wikipedia.

JamesU
May28-05, 01:03 AM
So does Evo

Huckleberry
May28-05, 01:03 AM
A barnacle, or does it have to be a mammal?

Mk
May28-05, 01:05 AM
That'll due. Barnacles have the longest penis to body length ratio, its penis is 20 times its body lenght.

JamesU
May28-05, 01:06 AM
I do not want to know why Mk knows this fact

Mk
May28-05, 02:15 AM
Oh yes, I'm gay and I have fantasies.

Mk
May28-05, 02:23 AM
Is Huckelberry giong to ask a question? Or will I or zoobyshoe do so?

zoobyshoe
May28-05, 02:30 AM
The first year these came out, they cost a penny, and were black. The next year they changed the color to red because people found it easy to reuse the black ones.

JamesU
May28-05, 02:32 AM
is it matches?

zoobyshoe
May28-05, 02:38 AM
is it matches?
No, and I'm subtracting ten points for such an off-the-wall guess. (How would the color affect the reusability of matches?)

JamesU
May28-05, 02:40 AM
Black absorbs heat. Making it easier to combust.

zoobyshoe
May28-05, 02:42 AM
Black absorbs heat. Making it easier to combust.
Make that twenty points off.

Mk
May28-05, 02:43 AM
In 1841, for a variety of reasons, mostly having to do with fraudulent re-use of postage stamps, the color of the one penny was changed from black to red. The term 'Penny Stars' is often used for this incomparably complex series of stamps which were in continual production from Fed. 10, 1841 until April 1862. The complexity of this series is due, ignoring at least 20 distinct shades color shades, not only to the hundreds of plates used for printing, but to that fact that 2 master dies, both imperforate and perforate issues (2 gauges as well as experimental perforations), 2 watermarks (and 2 varieties of one) and 4 fonts (alphabets) as well as various combinations were used for these stamps.

Anyone who wants to give one can, I'm leaving for a few hours.

JamesU
May28-05, 02:51 AM
a gender-specified toy still is in existance today which was invented in 1959. Named after inventor's daughter

1) what was the invention?
2)who was the inventor?
3) who was the inventor's daughter?

JamesU
May28-05, 02:56 AM
no, stupid. GOOGLE!

zoobyshoe
May28-05, 02:59 AM
Barbie Doll
Ruth Handler
Barbara

JamesU
May28-05, 02:59 AM
:rolleyes: :uhh:

JamesU
May28-05, 03:00 AM
Barbie Doll
Ruth Handler
Barbara
Good job I;m going to bed

Mk
May28-05, 05:28 AM
no, stupid. GOOGLE!
Hmm, so now "google" is a verb neogalism too. :bugeye:

zoobyshoe
May28-05, 05:42 AM
Hmm, so now "google" is a verb neogalism too. :bugeye:
Conjugated thus:

singular
I google
You google
He/She/It googles

plural
We google
You google
They google

brewnog
May28-05, 06:35 PM
Ok, I'll have another go since nobody else has for a while.


This man might have needed a poultry excuse to leave his job at Marconi in order to develop his 1956 invention.

JamesU
May28-05, 06:43 PM
The hard disk drive was invented in 1956

brewnog
May28-05, 06:46 PM
The hard disk drive was invented in 1956


So was Play-Doh, but you need to think about the clues, and use google as a reference rather than a brute-force answer getterer.

Here's another clue: I don't often make spelling mistakes accidentally, re-read my last post.

Danger
May28-05, 07:05 PM
I don't often make spelling mistakes accidentally, re-read my last post.
My first thought upon seeing it was Col. Saunders, but I wouldn't expect a Brit to ask that.

brewnog
May28-05, 07:07 PM
Nope, but Col. Sanders' product would give you a clue as to the inventor of this thing.

JamesU
May28-05, 07:09 PM
OMG! Is it the rubber chicken?!?

brewnog
May28-05, 07:09 PM
Dear god, no. It's cleverer than that, much cleverer.

JamesU
May28-05, 07:10 PM
The turkey pan?

brewnog
May28-05, 07:10 PM
Sigh.........

Danger
May28-05, 07:11 PM
Sigh.........
Oh, wait! It's the vegetable turkey! Evo has one on the next thread down.

JamesU
May28-05, 07:11 PM
It's *sigh* not sigh..........

brewnog
May28-05, 07:13 PM
Oh, wait! It's the vegetable turkey! Evo has one on the next thread down.

Sorry Dange. No cigar.

It's *sigh* not sigh..........

No, it was definitely said aloud...

JamesU
May28-05, 07:14 PM
then how 'bout this?

*"sigh"*.........

The turkey baster?

brewnog
May28-05, 07:16 PM
Ok, you're really not getting this.

The invention isn't food related.

The inventor has a tenuous connection with Col. Sanders' meat of choice.

JamesU
May28-05, 07:17 PM
The incubator?!

I know I'm making this harder than I should

and it's sanders' not sander's

Danger
May28-05, 07:19 PM
Automatic chicken-plucker?

brewnog
May28-05, 07:20 PM
The incubator?!

No.

I know I'm making this harder than I should

and it's sanders' not sander's

So it is, sorry. This honey liqueur is obviously a bit better than I'd thought...

JamesU
May28-05, 07:20 PM
ooh!ohh!

the chicken?

brewnog
May28-05, 07:21 PM
Automatic chicken-plucker?

Nope. The invention has nothing to do with chickens.

Danger
May28-05, 07:24 PM
Nope. The invention has nothing to do with chickens.
The automatic colonel plucker?

JamesU
May28-05, 07:24 PM
We need a snorting smiley.

and the invention was obviously chicken wire :uhh:

Danger
May28-05, 07:26 PM
the invention was obviously chicken wire :uhh:
I didn't know that chickens need to be plugged in.

JamesU
May28-05, 07:26 PM
They do when they have their incubators on

JamesU
May28-05, 07:30 PM
Danger, you get the next one

brewnog
May28-05, 07:32 PM
No no no.

Guess mine first, you lazy bizitches.

JamesU
May28-05, 07:34 PM
who was the person that invented...oh, brrewnog's here.

brewnog
May28-05, 07:37 PM
who was the person that invented...oh, brrewnog's here.

Ha, no such luck. :smile:

Since neither of you have the capacity to understand my subtle, clever clues, I'll give you the boring one instead. The invention was a new type of transport. It has nothing to do with chickens, turkeys, plucking machines, Colonels, kernels, Sergeant Majors, Wing Commanders or Flight Lieutenants.

brewnog
May28-05, 07:38 PM
the chicken or egg qustion.

I give up! And I'm not even guessing!

Danger
May28-05, 08:40 PM
Since neither of you have the capacity to understand my subtle, clever clues, I'll give you the boring one instead.
Didn't help any, but it was amusing. I can't think of any kind of transport that was invented around that time with the possible exception of the hyrdofoil or hovercraft, and I think they're both a lot older than that.

Mk
May28-05, 09:06 PM
Give me an hour first, then give us the boring one.

Ivan Seeking
May28-05, 09:29 PM
Didn't help any, but it was amusing. I can't think of any kind of transport that was invented around that time with the possible exception of the hyrdofoil or hovercraft, and I think they're both a lot older than that.

...The hovercraft was invented by Christopher Cockerell in 1956... Christopher Sydney Cockerell was born in 1910. He worked for the Radio Research Company until 1935 and then for the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Company from 1935 until 1951. During the war years, Christopher Cockerell worked with an elite team at Marconi to develop radar, a development which Churchill believed had a significant effect on the outcome of the Second World War, and Cockerell believed to be one of his greatest achievements. While at Marconi, Christopher Cockerell patented 36 of his ideas. Christopher Cockerell was knighted for his achievement in 1969...
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blhovercraft.htm

Danger
May28-05, 09:35 PM
Quote:
...The hovercraft was invented by Christopher Cockerell in 1956...

Amazing! Even when I'm wrong, I'm right. :approve:

Or more likely, even when I'm right, I'm wrong. :frown:

JamesU
May28-05, 09:36 PM
I bet you wish you could make smiles smaller huh?

Danger
May28-05, 09:39 PM
I bet you wish you could make smiles smaller huh?
That's been irritating the hell out of me for quite some time now, yes. :grumpy:

Ivan Seeking
May28-05, 09:39 PM
So is Danger up?

JamesU
May28-05, 09:40 PM
You'll just have to do what BT does and draw them yourself. that's a pretty low-level, BT

Danger
May28-05, 09:43 PM
So is Danger up?
I didn't get it, you did.

You'll just have to do what BT does and draw them yourself.
I drew some up in Illustrator and put them in ImageShack, but when I tried them in preview mode they looked like blobs. :grumpy:

Ivan Seeking
May28-05, 11:34 PM
The Racetrack upon which these move tells a tale, thus the mystery.

zoobyshoe
May28-05, 11:47 PM
The Racetrack upon which these move tells a tale, thus the mystery.
Comets?....

Ivan Seeking
May28-05, 11:53 PM
Not comets.

zoobyshoe
May28-05, 11:54 PM
Binary stars?

Danger
May29-05, 12:00 AM
Hadrons? (10)

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 12:02 AM
No, and I'm not quite sure what inspires that thought...

I would suggest the 23rd Psalm

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 12:06 AM
My last post was in response to Zooby, but no, not Hadrons

Danger
May29-05, 12:08 AM
No, and I'm not quite sure what inspires that thought...
If that's in reference to my guess, I was thinking of a cyclotron.

I would suggest the 23rd Psalm
Not me, dude! :eek: I won't look something up in the encyclopedia for this; I'm sure as hell not going into the Bible (as if I even have one :rolleyes: ).

Danger
May29-05, 12:10 AM
'Read' heads?

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 12:13 AM
If that's in reference to my guess, I was thinking of a cyclotron.


Not me, dude! :eek: I won't look something up in the encyclopedia for this; I'm sure as hell not going into the Bible (as if I even have one :rolleyes: ).

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.

Danger
May29-05, 12:20 AM
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.
For I am the meanest son-of-a-***** in the valley.
I have that poster. In fact, I'm going to have it painted on the trunk of the Roadrunner whenever I get it restored. :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 12:21 AM
The Racetrack upon which these move tells a tale, thus the mystery.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.
I'm drawing a blank.

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 12:25 AM
Known to happen but never observed, it seems that like water, the wind can move rocks.

Danger
May29-05, 12:29 AM
Known to happen but never observed, it seems that like water, the wind can move rocks.
That really doesn't rhyme very well. :wink:

Danger
May29-05, 12:31 AM
Oh man... I gotta go check out some other stuff. Maybe it'll come to me when I'm not paying attention to it.

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 12:34 AM
Got it!!
Death Valley Moving Rocks
Address:http://www.billandcori.com/deathvalley/dv_moving_rocks.htm

I should have been able to put it together from the psalm clue, because "Death Valley" was one of the things that occured to me, but I didn't. I had read about the moving rocks a long time ago and forgotten about them.

Danger
May29-05, 12:38 AM
Got it!!
Death Valley Moving Rocks
It's a good thing I checked back when I saw your post show up, rather than waste any more time on it. I've never heard of those things, so I certainly never would have gotten it.

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 12:38 AM
The lake bed is called "Racetrack Playa".

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 12:41 AM
This one should be easy:

Though Edison and Bell thought they had it covered, the only versions that ever thrived were based on this third person's efforts.

Danger
May29-05, 12:44 AM
Record player? Joe Victrola?

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 12:46 AM
Not "Joe Victrola", no.

Danger
May29-05, 12:50 AM
Not "Joe Victrola", no.
Ralph Carmichael Alphonso Victor, and his little dog?

Sorry, man... I have no idea who followed up on that. (How old is Phil Specter again?)

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 12:52 AM
Johnson?

Berliner?

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 12:54 AM
Johnson?

Berliner?
One of these is correct, yes.

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 12:55 AM
One of these is correct, yes.


:rofl: Tight ***.

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 12:56 AM
Okay, Berliner.

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 12:58 AM
Okay, Berliner.
Well, you could post a link to google and say "It's somebody in here, right?"

Yes, Emile Berliner

Your turn.

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 01:23 AM
Well, you could post a link to google and say "It's somebody in here, right?"

:biggrin: It seemed that what hit the market was a merger of both technologies, so I really couldn't be sure.

Okay, next question:
Since there was a place with none, the librarian knew that this was the key.

Mk
May29-05, 01:50 AM
Errmm... sure...

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 02:01 AM
high noon.

Mk
May29-05, 02:03 AM
I'm guessing that was a hint?

Danger
May29-05, 02:08 AM
I'm guessing that was a hint?
Correct! Your turn. :biggrin:

Moonbear
May29-05, 02:11 AM
That's an interesting clue. :bugeye:
I'll just throw out some free-association and see if I hit on something
Librarian: books, card catalogs, shelves, quiet
Key: clock, lock, door, solution to puzzle, skeleton, tumblers
High noon: clock, grandfather clock, Westerns, cowboy, shoot out, hands, time, chime

Maybe this will help someone else. I can't solve a clue yet because I haven't had time to think up a new one of my own. :rofl: (At least with Ivan's clue, there's no risk of that happening anytime soon anyway.)

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 02:12 AM
Eratosthenes measurement of the circumfrence of the earth!!!

Danger
May29-05, 02:14 AM
Man, to show you how screwed up I am over this, the only thing that I can think of at all is Franklin running that lightning bolt to an empty Leyden jar. I know that ain't right. First thought was something about a sundial, and that makes no sense at all.

Moonbear
May29-05, 02:21 AM
Shadows, light, dark. Lots of stuff comes to mind, none of it pointing toward a possible solution.

Zooby, please tell me that's a wild guess there and you didn't figure out that cryptic clue already!

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 02:23 AM
It's absolutely the right answer. I'm just waiting for confirmation.

Moonbear
May29-05, 02:26 AM
It's absolutely the right answer. I'm just waiting for confirmation.
:uhh: Care to explain it while we're waiting?

Danger
May29-05, 02:29 AM
:uhh: Care to explain it while we're waiting?
I know what he's talking about, and I'm afraid that he's probably right. :frown:

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 02:31 AM
You throw a librarian down a well at high noon in a certain city in Egypt or something, and if he sees his shadow then the earth is such and such a diameter.

Moonbear
May29-05, 02:34 AM
You throw a librarian down a well at high noon in a certain city in Egypt or something, and if he sees his shadow then the earth is such and such a diameter.

:bugeye: I'm going to have to google more about that one! (This has been a highly educational thread so far; I've learned about lots of obscure trivia I never knew I was missing before. :biggrin:)

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 02:37 AM
Well, Ivan has been distracted, so, in the faith I'm right here my clue:

a slippery mishap

Danger
May29-05, 02:38 AM
:bugeye: I'm going to have to google more about that one!
The guy stuck a couple of sticks (hence the name) into the ground a measured distance apart, then compared the shadow lengths to work out the curvature of the Earth.

Moonbear
May29-05, 02:38 AM
Okay, looked it up. Phew, no librarians had to get thrown down wells! :rofl:

Eratosthenes, a Greek geographer (about 276 to 194 B.C.), made a surprisingly accurate estimate of the earth's circumference. In the great library in Alexandria he read that a deep vertical well near Syene, in southern Egypt, was entirely lit up by the sun at noon once a year. Eratosthenes reasoned that at this time the sun must be directly overhead, with its rays shining directly into the well. In Alexandria, almost due north of Syene, he knew that the sun was not directly overhead at noon on the same day because a vertical object cast a shadow. Eratosthenes could now measure the circumference of the earth (sorry Columbus) by making two assumptions - that the earth is round and that the sun's rays are essentially parallel.
http://www.youth.net/eratosthenes/welcome.html

(Shh...don't tell all those fans of Columbus that people already knew the Earth was round long before his time!)

JamesU
May29-05, 02:40 AM
Okay, looked it up. Phew, no librarians had to get thrown down wells! :rofl:

I'm not sure if I want to know what you've been talking about :uhh:

Moonbear
May29-05, 02:41 AM
Well, Ivan has been distracted, so, in the faith I'm right here my clue:

a slippery mishap

Teflon? (+10 chars)

JamesU
May29-05, 02:42 AM
I killed franzbear! you guys didn't! nyah nyah nyah-nyah-nyah! I killed franzino!

Danger
May29-05, 02:42 AM
Okay, looked it up.
Okay, so I missed a couple of details.... :redface: (Working from memory here.)

Danger
May29-05, 02:44 AM
Teflon? (+10 chars)
Either that, or he knew Sylvia too.

Moonbear
May29-05, 02:47 AM
I killed franzbear! you guys didn't! nyah nyah nyah-nyah-nyah! I killed franzino!
Wrong thread. :rofl:

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 02:47 AM
Teflon? (+10 chars)
Too easy, I guess. Yep, teflon.

JamesU
May29-05, 02:47 AM
Wrong thread. :rofl:
:uhh: :shy: :redface:

Moonbear
May29-05, 02:48 AM
Too easy, I guess. Yep, teflon.
I don't know if it was too easy, it just popped into my mind...darn, now I have to think of one! Anyone have a clue ready who wants to take my turn?

Danger
May29-05, 02:49 AM
:uhh: :shy: :redface:
Go back to the Welcome tent and get a map.

JamesU
May29-05, 02:51 AM
I had it upside down :uhh:

Moonbear
May29-05, 02:52 AM
Okay, here we go:
Brightly colored and born in Denmark, Moonbear likes their studs.

Moonbear
May29-05, 02:53 AM
Go back to the Welcome tent and get a map.
I know I've needed to go back for those maps a few times. :rofl:

Danger
May29-05, 02:54 AM
Okay, here we go:
Brightly colored and born in Denmark, Moonbear likes their studs.
Are there any studs that Moonbear doesn't like?

honestrosewater
May29-05, 03:05 AM
Hm, I've seen chocolates and candies that look like jewels...

Huckleberry
May29-05, 03:07 AM
I'm thinking some kind of horse native to the region.

honestrosewater
May29-05, 03:09 AM
Yeah, me too. Maybe jutlands?

Danger
May29-05, 03:10 AM
Hm, I've seen chocolates and candies that look like jewels...
I was sort of thinking along the line of the jewels themselves, but I can't for the life of me come up with what kind Denmark produces. Amethyst?

Moonbear
May29-05, 03:12 AM
Nope, not horses or jewels.

Danger
May29-05, 03:14 AM
Nope, not horses or jewels.
Sure... be like that... :tongue:

Moonbear
May29-05, 03:16 AM
Sure... be like that... :tongue:
Okay, the studs function better with tubes.

JamesU
May29-05, 03:16 AM
is it potatoes? (i'm just wasting time)

Moonbear
May29-05, 03:17 AM
is it potatoes? (i'm just wasting time)
:rofl: Studs, not spuds.

JamesU
May29-05, 03:19 AM
topatoes???

Huckleberry
May29-05, 03:19 AM
Okay I got it, but I had to google.

good luck.

honestrosewater
May29-05, 03:20 AM
Legos ................

JamesU
May29-05, 03:21 AM
tomotopatoes?

Moonbear
May29-05, 03:21 AM
Okay I got it, but I had to google.
Well, are you going to share? I can't stay up ALL night. :tongue:

Moonbear
May29-05, 03:22 AM
Legos ................
That's it! :biggrin: Your turn.

JamesU
May29-05, 03:22 AM
yes you can..

potatomatopatoes?

honestrosewater
May29-05, 03:24 AM
Yay, finally.
You will chase this anser to a source of refreshment.

I don't mind if you google, BTW. I googled to check if the things on Legos were called studs- it's allowed unless stated otherwise, right?

Huckleberry
May29-05, 03:26 AM
running water

honestrosewater
May29-05, 03:28 AM
running waterNo, but that's clever.

Mk
May29-05, 03:31 AM
Mirage?.........

Huckleberry
May29-05, 03:32 AM
Yeah, it's allowed. I try to refrain when Danger is playing though. He doesn't like it. One day when everyone has google chips in their brains Danger will be the smartest man on earth.

honestrosewater
May29-05, 03:34 AM
Mirage?.........Nope...............

Mk
May29-05, 03:37 AM
Yay, finally.
You will chase this anser to a source of refreshment.

I don't mind if you google, BTW. I googled to check if the things on Legos were called studs- it's allowed unless stated otherwise, right?
I'll need one hint to solve this. I think.

Danger
May29-05, 03:39 AM
Yeah, it's allowed. I try to refrain when Danger is playing though. He doesn't like it.
I don't mind if someone has a pretty good idea and wants to double-check, although I won't do it myself. (If I did, I would have gotten the damned hovercraft question. :frown: )

One day when everyone has google chips in their brains Danger will be the smartest man on earth.
That would pretty well put an end to game shows, so maybe it's not such a bad idea. (Except for 'Jeapardy', of course. I love that one.)

honestrosewater
May29-05, 03:46 AM
Clue: What's good for the female is good for the male.

Okay, but this pretty much gives it away. I'm a careful speller.

You will chase this anser to a source of refreshment.

Danger
May29-05, 04:57 AM
Clue: What's good for the female is good for the male.
Well, I know that anser is a goose genus, but I did think that it was a typo until you said otherwise. And the goose and gander thing is clear enough. What I don't know is what the wild goose chase is about. Unless you just mean a lake or something.

I gotta go to sleep now. I'll check back tomorrow afternoon.

Mk
May29-05, 05:09 AM
Yeah, its either a lake, a bar, or the Himalayas. Strange combination?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar-headed_Goose

honestrosewater
May29-05, 05:12 AM
Yeah, its either a lake, a bar, or the Himalayas. Strange combination?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar-headed_GooseYes, you will chase a Bar-headed goose (a.k.a anser indicus) to a source of refreshment (a bar- the bar it's headed to... er um yeah). Eh, I could have done worse. :tongue2:

Mk
May29-05, 05:13 AM
You know what? That was really freakin stupid, and unsolvable due to technical limitations. (my last one I'm overwriting) I'll think of another.

honestrosewater: I liked yours, it was clever and creative.

honestrosewater
May29-05, 05:22 AM
honestrosewater: I liked yours, it was clever and creative.Ah, my genius is appreciated at last! I thought it was a real challenge to the non-googlers, but they must like a challenge anyway ;)

Mk
May29-05, 05:23 AM
This one Evo might get if she comes quick enough:

Franzbear is walking in a forest and comes a clearing, where she/he/it sees a person. Franzbear is terrified, and lost, after going down that wooden rollercoaster. She asks the person where she is and he replies: Kanguru. Franzbear stands there and looks at him befuddled, and feels even more lost than before. Franzbear shoots him, then jumps off a nearby cliff, because Franzbear is seemingly random. What country is Franzbear in, and of what heritage is the person Franzbear asks?

Mk
May29-05, 05:24 AM
I would guess the googlers will get this one before someone that doesn't have to does.

Ivan Seeking
May29-05, 01:24 PM
Sorry, had to go.

Eratosthenes

Close enough. I was thinking of the shadow that was seen in the well at Alexandria, near the the library, but not in a deep vertical well near Syene (now Aswan), in southern Egypt, which is what clued him in.

Danger
May29-05, 01:37 PM
What country is Franzbear in, and of what heritage is the person Franzbear asks?
I would expect Australia and Aboriginal.

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 02:22 PM
I would expect Australia and Aboriginal.
I happen to know this is the correct anser. Your turn.

Gokul43201
May29-05, 04:20 PM
Franzbear is Cap'n Cook, I take it ?

Chew on this till Danger wakes up...

In the autumn of 1789, Dr. Jo pleaded for the use of this thing on grounds of humanity and "equality". What was it ?

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 04:29 PM
In the autumn of 1789, Dr. Jo pleaded for the use of this thing on grounds of humanity and "equality". What was it ?
Would "Jo" be short for "Joseph"? And would this have anything to do with Robespierre's reign of terror during the French Revolution?

Gokul43201
May29-05, 04:32 PM
Would "Jo" be short for "Joseph"? And would this have anything to do with Robespierre's reign of terror during the French Revolution?aye and aye...anser up and go next.

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 04:34 PM
aye and aye...
Oh. In that case I have no idea.

Gokul43201
May29-05, 04:48 PM
...and I thought this was was going to go down quick and easy; you know, no pain at all !

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 04:50 PM
...and I thought this was was going to go down quick and easy; you know, no pain at all !
I have no idea what this joke about decapitation means.

During the conflict, he sometimes resorted to using old window panes.

Danger
May29-05, 04:52 PM
Oh. In that case I have no idea.
You certainly better be kidding there... :bugeye:

edit: Never mind; your next posts came up while I was writing that. :redface:

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 04:59 PM
During the conflict, he sometimes resorted to using old window panes.
This is not related to Gokul's quetion. It is a new clue altogether.

Gokul43201
May29-05, 05:26 PM
During the conflict, he sometimes resorted to using old window panes.This is not the guy that came up with DDT, is it ? I think not...and I'm off.

BTW, the previous anser, as unansered by Zoob, was the guillotine.

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 05:28 PM
This is not the guy that came up with DDT, is it ? I think not...and I'm off.
No, not the DDT guy.

brewnog
May29-05, 05:51 PM
During the conflict, he sometimes resorted to using old window panes.

Some pioneer of photography perhaps?

Danger
May29-05, 05:53 PM
Some pioneer of photography perhaps?
That certainly makes sense. Photos were done on glass plates. That 'Brownie' guy that the Kodak/Brownie camera was named for? Or George Eastman? Maybe even earlier than that.

brewnog
May29-05, 05:57 PM
That certainly makes sense. Photos were done on glass plates. That 'Brownie' guy that the Kodak/Brownie camera was named for? Or George Eastman? Maybe even earlier than that.

I like the idea of the de Guerre guy, but only because his name is a type of conflict.

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 05:58 PM
I like the idea of the de Guerre guy, but only because his name is a type of conflict.
I know who you mean. Not him.

Danger
May29-05, 06:02 PM
I know who you mean. Not him.
Do I take this to mean that the photography part is right, and we just need a name?

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 06:04 PM
Do I take this to mean that the photography part is right, and we just need a name?
You can take it to mean it isn't that guy. That is all.

brewnog
May29-05, 06:06 PM
Talbot? Morse?

I think I need another clue.

brewnog
May29-05, 06:07 PM
Ooh, Archer!

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 06:08 PM
During the conflict, he sometimes resorted to using old window panes scavenged from destroyed houses.

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 06:09 PM
Talbot? Morse?

Ooh, Archer!
None of these.

Danger
May29-05, 06:10 PM
During the conflict, he sometimes resorted to using old window panes scavenged from destroyed houses.
I'll go back to my original train of thought then, but I don't think it's right. All that comes to mind is a war-time doctor who might have used glass for scalpels.

zoobyshoe
May29-05, 06:15 PM
"The conflict" was none other than "The War Of Northern Agression."

Danger
May29-05, 06:18 PM
"The conflict" was none other than "The War Of Northern Agression."
I'm out then. I've never heard that term. To me, it could mean your Civil War, or the Korean conflict, Viet Nam... anything with north and south sides.

brewnog
May29-05, 06:23 PM
I'm out too, but you knew that. :smile:

Ivan Seeking
May30-05, 01:39 AM
I can't find anything.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 01:48 AM
"I wish that I was in the land of cotton
Old times there, are not forgotten,
Look away.......
Look away......
Look away......
*****land!

Danger
May30-05, 02:03 AM
"I wish that I was in the land of cotton
Old times there, are not forgotten,
Look away.......
Look away......
Look away......
*****land!
Right! Dixie Cups! I forgot that they used to be made out of glass.

Moonbear
May30-05, 02:05 AM
So far it has something to do with the Civil War or the American South (The War of Northern Aggression I've now learned is what the Southerners call the Civil War...I never knew that before having always lived north of the Mason Dixon line). I can't find anything about scavenging of window panes other than in the general sense that everything was scavenged.

Danger
May30-05, 02:07 AM
So far it has something to do with the Civil War
Well, my curiosity must wait. Bed time. See you tomorrow.

Ivan Seeking
May30-05, 02:09 AM
Mathew B. Brady?

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 02:20 AM
Mathew B. Brady?
BINGO!!!!

Mathew Brady, the most famous photographic chronicler of the Civil War. 90% of Civil War pictures you have seen were by Brady.

Ivan Seeking
May30-05, 02:21 AM
What was the Dixieland clue? Or was this just in reference to the Civil War?

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 02:24 AM
What was the Dixieland clue? Or was this just in reference to the Civil War?
Yeah, that was because no one seemed to have heard of "The War of Northern Agression". Just saying "Civil War" would have been too easy.

Ivan Seeking
May30-05, 02:44 AM
It is estimated that over 1400 anti-aircraft rounds were fired in this little known California event. After all, there was a war on!

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 03:09 AM
It is estimated that over 1400 anti-aircraft rounds were fired in this little known California event. After all, there was a war on!
I believe you are refering to what might be called "The Battle of Los Angeles" when an air raid by the Japanese on that city was bravely repelled, despite the absense of any actual Japanese planes.

California Military History: California and World War II
Address:http://www.militarymuseum.org/HistoryWWII.html

Ivan Seeking
May30-05, 03:13 AM
Correct!

Edit: This is an actual photo of the object that wasn't there.

http://brumac.8k.com/BATTLEOFLA/BattleofLAFig1.jpg
http://brumac.8k.com/BATTLEOFLA/BattleofLA.html

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 03:15 AM
"...mounted on a block of concrete that floated in a cylindrical, brick-enclosed trough of mercury."

brewnog
May30-05, 06:14 AM
"...mounted on a block of concrete that floated in a cylindrical, brick-enclosed trough of mercury."

This sounds to me like some kind of bearing for something big and heavy. A telescope?

Gokul43201
May30-05, 12:26 PM
"...mounted on a block of concrete that floated in a cylindrical, brick-enclosed trough of mercury."I believe I was told about this last winter, when I was visiting folks in the Bay Area. I think it was something about the fort below the GG Bridge. Some kind of terrestrial telescope (copied that off of brew), perhaps ?

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 02:55 PM
Brewnog and Gokul both incorrect. It is something you both have already heard of, I'm sure, but didn't know this detail.

brewnog
May30-05, 04:05 PM
Nope, I'm not gonna get it without another hint!

Gokul43201
May30-05, 04:07 PM
Me neither...though I'm certain there was something that sat in a pool of mercury in the Bay Area.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 04:11 PM
The point of the complex mercury bearing was to obviate the fact of how sensitive the device was to any vibration.

brewnog
May30-05, 04:18 PM
Brewnog and Gokul both incorrect. It is something you both have already heard of, I'm sure, but didn't know this detail.

Ohh, but look!


The 200 tonne Dunn Solar Telescope at Sacramento Peak is suspended from a container holding ten tons of mercury, which acts as a bearing. This allows the telescope to be easily rotated during research.

Do I win?

dextercioby
May30-05, 04:23 PM
Michelson-Morley interferometer...?

Daniel.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 04:26 PM
Hmmmmmmm....good research, but does this telescope fit the rest of the description: "...mounted on a block of concrete that floated in a cylindrical, brick enclosed trough of mercury"?

Here's another clue: this was a measuring apparatus.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 04:27 PM
Michelson-Morley interferometer...?

Daniel.
Whooops!!! We have a winner!

Your turn.

brewnog
May30-05, 04:28 PM
Michelson-Morley interferometer...?

Daniel.


Gah, and I'd have got that if I'd thought the block was concrete instead of marble! Honest!

dextercioby
May30-05, 04:35 PM
I'm a theorist,i can't possibly recollect too many experiments.So i'll ask an embarassingly simple question.You can google it,if u don't know the answer.

"Revolutionized chemistry".An object.And who's responsible for "revolutioning chemistry"?

Daniel.

brewnog
May30-05, 04:41 PM
"Revolutionized chemistry".And who's responsible for "revolutioning chemistry"?


Dmitri Mendeleev?

dextercioby
May30-05, 04:43 PM
Nope.Keep trying.

Daniel.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 04:44 PM
Humphrey Davy?

dextercioby
May30-05, 04:45 PM
Nope.Yes,it's fair to ask the year,too.Approximately,of course.

Daniel.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 04:48 PM
Nope.Yes,it's fair to ask the year,too.Approximately,of course.
No it's not. All we can do is guess, answer, or ask for another clue.

Was it Faraday?

dextercioby
May30-05, 04:51 PM
I'm really sorry to say,but Faraday was not a chemist.

Clue.There's no chemical laboratory in the world without this thing.

Daniel.

Ivan Seeking
May30-05, 04:56 PM
Bunsen and his burner

brewnog
May30-05, 04:56 PM
Mr Bunsen?

Edit: Aww, pipped to the post. (Assuming that's the right answer!)

Ivan Seeking
May30-05, 04:57 PM
Go ahead Brewnog, I can't stick around right now anyway.

dextercioby
May30-05, 04:58 PM
Good try.Not what i had in mind.It can't get any more elemenatry than that.

The difficult,possibly googling part would be to come up with a name and an approximate year.

Daniel.

brewnog
May30-05, 05:00 PM
1924, the invention of Pyrex? :smile:

dextercioby
May30-05, 05:02 PM
It's not a chemical substance,but an object,INSTRUMENT,if u prefer.

No more clues.

Daniel.

brewnog
May30-05, 05:05 PM
Buchner filter?
Leiblich condenser?

dextercioby
May30-05, 05:09 PM
The only relevant hint i've given is "revolutionized chemistry".

Daniel.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 05:12 PM
I'm really sorry to say,but Faraday was not a chemist.
Michael Faraday's Contributions to Electricity and Chemistry
Address:http://sln.fi.edu/franklin/scientst/faraday.html

dextercioby
May30-05, 05:14 PM
He was a physicist.It's like saying Hilbert was a physicist,just because Hilbert spaces are crucial in physics and the Hilbert action for the gravitational field is essential in GR.

Electrolysis came after "chemistry was revolutionized".

Need i say that this is not a technical question,so it can be answered by virtually anyone...?

Daniel.

brewnog
May30-05, 05:26 PM
The Centrifuge, invented by Benjamin Robins in the 18th century?

Only chem-pun I can think of around "revolutionized"...

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 05:27 PM
He was a physicist.It's like saying Hilbert was a physicist,just because Hilbert spaces are crucial in physics and the Hilbert action for the gravitational field is essential in GR.

Electrolysis came after "chemistry was revolutionized".

Daniel.
Excluding Faraday as the correct answer on the basis he wasn't a chemist, rather than because it isn't the answer your looking for, is snooty and gratitously picayune, since electrochemistry did revolutionise chemistry.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 05:28 PM
The Periodic Table of Elements, Dmitri Ivancritch Mendeléeff, 1864?? Edit: Oops, already guessed. :redface:

dextercioby
May30-05, 05:31 PM
Nope,i excluded Faraday,simply because it was not a revolution. in the sense putting a *************** in a chemistry lab was.:wink:

Mendeleev's first published Table of Elements was in 1869.:wink:

Daniel.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 05:34 PM
"Revolutionised Chemistry" is a pun of some sort.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 05:35 PM
The compound microscope, Zacharias Janssen, ~1590??

brewnog
May30-05, 05:37 PM
it was not a revolution. in the sense putting a *************** in a chemistry lab was.:wink:




Bench? Sink? Blackboard? Fume cupboard? Fridge? Door? :smile:

dextercioby
May30-05, 05:37 PM
Chemists don't need a microscope more than a *********************.

Good guess.That's a biology lab,though.

Daniel.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 05:39 PM
Yeah, I figured- but the question does seem very broad. Was is some kind of thermometer?? -No one is stealing this from me either! :devil:

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 05:41 PM
It's going to turn out to be something like Cavendish being the first person to bring a round stool into the lab or something along those lines.

dextercioby
May30-05, 05:42 PM
I think it was invented by that time,but nope,at that time,putting it in a lab was not crucial.

"Revolutionized chemistry=It literally changed the way chemistry was (being) done".

Daniel.

dextercioby
May30-05, 05:43 PM
It's going to turn out to be something like Cavendish being the first person to bring a round stool into the lab or something along those lines.

It's really essential.You won't believe that simple it is. :wink:

Daniel.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 05:45 PM
It's really essential.You won't believe that simple it is. :wink:

Daniel.
Artificial illumination? Say, an oil lamp?

Evo
May30-05, 05:46 PM
centrifuge?

dextercioby
May30-05, 05:48 PM
Evo's not original (check out the previous page with Ivan's answer).Nope,it's not a lighting tool.

Daniel.

EDIT:You're not original with the centrifuge,either. :tongue2:

Evo
May30-05, 05:49 PM
Evo's not original (check out the previous page with Ivan's answer).Nope,it's not a lighting tool.

Daniel.sorry, I hadn't read all posts, not even the quetion. :redface: I changed it.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 05:53 PM
Test tube?

matthyaouw
May30-05, 05:54 PM
Bunsen burner?

honestrosewater
May30-05, 05:58 PM
First chemistry textbook, Andreas Libavius, 1597??
Vacuum pump, Otto von Guericke, 1645??

Eh, the pre-dating electrolysis was a hint, right?

dextercioby
May30-05, 05:59 PM
Nope to test tube,Bunsen burner,well,it's the 3-rd time i see that answer,but Bunsen was born and worked in the XVIII-th century.

Daniel.

Evo
May30-05, 06:00 PM
acidimeter?

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:00 PM
Interesting,but nope,vacuum pump is in a plasma physics lab.Chemists would be dead without a ***************** in their lab.

Daniel.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 06:02 PM
A ventilation system?!?

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:02 PM
acidimeter?

At that time,they didn't know what acid was.

Please,guess it.If you don't,u'll see that those answers were/are unbelievebly complicated and u'll get a bit of frustration,too.

Daniel.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 06:02 PM
Need i say that this is not a technical question,so it can be answered by virtually anyone...?
It is an object/instrument, but not a technical one.

Chamber pot?

Evo
May30-05, 06:05 PM
At that time,they didn't know what acid was.

Please,guess it.If you don't,u'll see that those answers were/are unbelievebly complicated and u'll get a bit of frustration,too.

Daniel.Did you ever state the century? Or will that give it away?

brewnog
May30-05, 06:05 PM
COSHH risk assessment?

Coffee machine?

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:09 PM
Did you ever state the century? Or will that give it away?

I'm asking for the object,which should be the easy part,then the guy who did it and the year (with approximation) in which it happened.

The century will be given as a clue,if you can't find the name and the year.

But first,the easy part.

No,to Brewnog's jokes.

Daniel.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 06:10 PM
Coffee machine?Heh, that would be math ;)

Okay some guesses: protective clothing (including glasses), storage device, a book, type of camera, uhhh... fire predates chemistry, so I guess that wouldn't have really revolutionized it?

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:12 PM
They hadn't discovered corrosive substances,nor dangerous gases which might blow up.Daguerre was not born.:wink: And Gutenberg had already died.

Daniel.

brewnog
May30-05, 06:13 PM
The match?

Robert Boyle (1680), John Walker (1827) or Charles Sauria (1830) are possible answers to that one.

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:14 PM
I dunno what they used to light the fire.But they were doing it,so this is not the answer.

Daniel.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 06:20 PM
Fire extinguisher!!!!!

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:21 PM
No offense,but the fire extinguisher didn't quite revolutionize chemistry.:rofl:

Daniel.

Moonbear
May30-05, 06:22 PM
Magnetic stir bar/stir plate?

honestrosewater
May30-05, 06:24 PM
No offense,but the fire extinguisher didn't quite revolutionize chemistry.:rofl:

Daniel.But every chemistry lab has one (I hope)! I'm running out of ideas. Can you tell us whether it was an idea or a physical object?

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:27 PM
Both.The significance of that gesture/act was so great,that it changed everything in the world right now.Just like Faraday's 1831 electromagnetic induction discovery.

Daniel.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 06:31 PM
Any of Newton's ideas should be well-known, so that doesn't fit... Robert Boyle founding The Royal Society of London? Oh, that doesn't work either.

Moonbear
May30-05, 06:31 PM
Oh, or what's that rotating thingamabob that spins the round bottom flasks when you evaporate solvents off your product? Is it simply called a rotating evaporator...something like that anyway.

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:33 PM
Moonbear,as i said,it's not a technical question.You needn't be a chemist,or a math girl :wink: to answer it correctly.

Daniel.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 06:36 PM
I keep coming back to Cavendish. Was it his discovery of the constituents of water? His hydrogen generator?

Moonbear
May30-05, 06:38 PM
Moonbear,as i said,it's not a technical question.You needn't be a chemist,or a math girl :wink: to answer it correctly.

Daniel.

Well, that's why I started my guessing with a stir plate! :rofl:

How about the periodic table of elements? (Not sure if that has already been guessed; I skimmed through the two pages of guesses.)

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:38 PM
Cavendish?I thought it was Priestley,but maybe it's just me...

Nope,Zoobyshoe,it's much easier than that.

Daniel.

rachmaninoff
May30-05, 06:38 PM
safety goggles?

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 06:39 PM
They hadn't discovered corrosive substances,nor dangerous gases which might blow up.Daguerre was not born.:wink: And Gutenberg had already died.
This clue bothers me. Both lye and acid were in use pre-Gutenberg. The Chinese had also invented gunpowder well before Gutenberg

honestrosewater
May30-05, 06:40 PM
Okay, it revolutionized chemistry, isn't a chemical substance nor technical instrument but an act/gesture, is in every chemistry lab, happened between ~1463-1789, and the author and date may be difficult to find.

The publication of the first scientific journal?

brewnog
May30-05, 06:41 PM
This clue bothers me. Both lye and acid were in use pre-Gutenberg. The Chinese had also invented gunpowder well before Gutenberg

Me too, I was a bit confused about the explosive gases thing.

Evo
May30-05, 06:41 PM
microscope? airpump?

honestrosewater
May30-05, 06:42 PM
Nope, I already guessed safety goggles and microscope. And air pump.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 06:49 PM
Me too, I was a bit confused about the explosive gases thing.
I think we may have a clue-writing impaired person on our hands.

brewnog
May30-05, 06:51 PM
It would be very Dex to give a load of cryptic random clues which don't actually lead anywhere, and see how long it takes for us to realise. :smile:

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:51 PM
It's an object and this guy though of using it in his chemistry experiments.The gesture would be using it to ****** the g******* (curse) things...

Daniel.

Evo
May30-05, 06:51 PM
He said it was an object.

Here are his hints -

They hadn't discovered corrosive substances,nor dangerous gases which might blow up.Daguerre was not born. And Gutenberg had already died.

Chemists would be dead without a ***************** in their lab.

I'm asking for the object,which should be the easy part,then the guy who did it and the year (with approximation) in which it happened.

Chemists would be dead without a ***************** in their lab.

It's really essential.You won't believe that simple it is. :wink:

"Revolutionized chemistry=It literally changed the way chemistry was (being) done".

It's not a chemical substance,but an object,INSTRUMENT,if u prefer.

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:53 PM
I think we may have a clue-writing impaired person on our hands.

Hold on,that was not a clue. :rolleyes: Need i spell:CLUE everytime i want to write something...? :tongue2:

Daniel.

Moonbear
May30-05, 06:56 PM
Analytical balance?

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 06:56 PM
Hold on,that was not a clue. :rolleyes: Need i spell:CLUE everytime i want to write something...?
That settles that. We do have a clue-writting impaired person on our hands

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 06:58 PM
It's an object and this guy though of using it in his chemistry experiments.The gesture would be using it to ****** the g******* (curse) things...
Cork bottle stopper?

dextercioby
May30-05, 06:59 PM
Analytical balance?

YES. :approve: Not "analytical",a simple balance to weigh the substances.Can anyone provide a name and an approximate year for it...?

Need i say the importance of having a balance in a chemistry lab...? :rolleyes:

MOONBEAR wins round one. :surprised :tongue2:

Daniel.

Evo
May30-05, 07:02 PM
Joseph Black 1754

dextercioby
May30-05, 07:03 PM
Yes.The Scottish guy did it.:approve: Where & how did you find it?

Daniel.

brewnog
May30-05, 07:04 PM
Moonbear's a Scottish guy?!

That explains a lot!

Evo
May30-05, 07:04 PM
Yes.The Scottish guy did it.:approve: Where & how did you find it?

Daniel.I googled it.

Gokul43201
May30-05, 07:04 PM
The clue about revolutionizing chemistry made me think immediately of Lavoisier, who was executed during the French Revolution. But I can't think of any object he invented...

Following the object line of reasoning led me to Celsius (who likely fits the timeline) but was really an astronomer...

Galvani was a bio guy, and I can't think of anything he invented...

Ummm....nothing else comes to mind...

Gokul43201
May30-05, 07:06 PM
Oops...Black, it was , eh ? Nevermind. Moonbear's up.

PS : Thought of the physical balance, but imagined that was there before medieval times...

Moonbear
May30-05, 07:07 PM
Hmmm...are you sure about the invention of balances?

I found this site http://www1.fis.uc.pt/museu/mecclsing.htm that says this:
Balances had been constructed long before the theory of levers was completely understood. The balance with a pointer on arms of equal length and weights (instruments 14 to 16) comes from ancient times. From the third century BC it competed with the "Roman" balance which had a sliding pointer on a graduated shaft (instruments 18 and 19). The two kinds are known as drop-pan balances since the pans are below the pointer. It was Gilles Personne de Roberval who, in 1669, devised a balance with raised pans, kept horizontal by an articulated parallelogram. It was not until the 19th century, however, that Roberval's balance became widely used in shops and homes.

Evo
May30-05, 07:07 PM
Oops...Black, it was , eh ? Nevermind. Evo's up.No Moonbear guessed what it was. MB, take it away.

Good one Dex!!!!!

Moonbear
May30-05, 07:08 PM
Joseph Black 1754
Evo, if you have a clue ready, you can take this one.

Evo
May30-05, 07:09 PM
Hmmm...are you sure about the invention of balances?

I found this site http://www1.fis.uc.pt/museu/mecclsing.htm that says this:I had thrown scales & balances out as an answer because they've been around long before BC, but Dex is correct as far as being revolutionary to chemistry.

Gokul43201
May30-05, 07:09 PM
This thread sure moves fast. Three posts before I could correct myself !!

dextercioby
May30-05, 07:12 PM
Here's the story behind it all:

Back in the XI-the grade,my phys teacher said it and attributed wrongly to Lavoisier,and this was supposed to have happen ~1777/8.I took it and believed it and last year in November,when i was at a library at KUL,i read a 1935 book on Lavoisier in which this fact comes accross:the young chemist Lavoisier read the book written by Black (maybe you can find the title) around 1750 in which Black described his experiments in which he thought of using a balance.

Then Lavoisier put this idea to good use...

Daniel.

P.S.Black was more of a physician than a chemist.

Gokul43201
May30-05, 07:12 PM
I have one ready; if neither of you (MB/Evo) minds ...

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 07:12 PM
I had thrown scales & balances out as an answer because they've been around long before BC, but Dex is correct as far as being revolutionary to chemistry.
The reason it is a sucky clue is that every major early breakthrough in chemistry could accurately be described as a "revolution".

Moonbear
May30-05, 07:14 PM
I have one ready; if neither of you (MB/Evo) minds ...
Fine with me...go for it.

dextercioby
May30-05, 07:17 PM
Alright,i think Moonbear won it,unless any of you mentors wanna change the replies...:tongue2:

Moonbear,you're up.

Daniel.

Gokul43201
May30-05, 07:17 PM
In 1932 a 10-pack of this was packaged differently.

<chew on it; I'll be back in a little while>

Evo
May30-05, 07:17 PM
Fine with me...go for it.go gokul... :approve:

Gokul43201
May30-05, 07:18 PM
gone already

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 07:19 PM
In 1932 a 10-pack of this was packaged differently.

<chew on it; I'll be back in a little while>
Obvious guess: chewing gum.

Evo
May30-05, 07:20 PM
In 1932 a 10-pack of this was packaged differently.

<chew on it; I'll be back in a little while>Wrigley's gum

Moonbear
May30-05, 07:21 PM
In 1932 a 10-pack of this was packaged differently.

<chew on it; I'll be back in a little while>
This can't be it, but being a BBQ type weekend, hot dogs and hot dog buns come to mind (maybe that's when they made it 8 hot dogs and 10 buns so you need to keep buying more packages?) :rofl:

Gokul43201
May30-05, 07:23 PM
A 10-pack of Wrigley's gum was the first product to wear a barcode.

I'm going to give it to Zoovo.

brewnog
May30-05, 07:25 PM
Wow, that was quick! I missed the entire round :mad:

Bed time, night all x-x-x-x-x-x

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 07:26 PM
Evo, you go.

Evo
May30-05, 07:27 PM
I've got one.

The nuclear era was defined by this invention. The inventor credited was held prisoner by the Russians and forced to invent this.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 07:29 PM
I've got one.

The inventor credited was held prisoner by the Russians and forced to invent this.
The lead lined anti radiation suit?

Evo
May30-05, 07:30 PM
The lead lined anti radiation suit?heheh good guess

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 07:32 PM
heheh good guess
Meh....is it right?

Evo
May30-05, 07:35 PM
Meh....is it right?No, but having one around this wouldn't be a bad idea. :tongue2:

Gokul43201
May30-05, 07:44 PM
kryptonite :biggrin: :wink: I'm off....

Evo
May30-05, 07:52 PM
a hint - what it produces is bursts of atomic energy and splits in two easily

Huckleberry
May30-05, 07:52 PM
x-ray laser pointers?

dextercioby
May30-05, 07:53 PM
Sorry,Evo...:wink:

http://www.electricityforum.com/news/mar04/centrifuge.html

Dr.Gernot Zippe "The invention was the uranium centrifuge, and around the world, millions of them now spin in high-security plants often ringed by barbed wire."

I guess he was a common aquiaintance of mr.Kurchatov.

Daniel.

Evo
May30-05, 07:56 PM
Sorry,Evo...:wink:

http://www.electricityforum.com/news/mar04/centrifuge.html

Dr.Gernot Zippe "The invention was the uranium centrifuge, and around the world, millions of them now spin in high-security plants often ringed by barbed wire."

I guess he was a common aquiaintance of mr.Kurchatov.

Daniel.Correct!!!

dextercioby
May30-05, 08:18 PM
I'll let Moonbear pick the challange.She owes one for her "balance":wink:

Daniel.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 09:33 PM
Okay, it's MB's turn, but until she comes back, here's an easy one.

He is well-known for calling a swan a crow, but he may not have actually said it. Who is the other suspect?

Gokul43201
May30-05, 09:51 PM
The original guy is no doubt, ol' Shakespeare (R&J). Clueless on the other suspect...

honestrosewater
May30-05, 10:00 PM
Erm, you mean the person usually attributed with having called a swan a crow is Shakespeare? That isn't who I was talking about- did he also do that?

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 10:15 PM
Erm, you mean the person usually attributed with having called a swan a crow is Shakespeare? That isn't who I was talking about- did he also do that?
He's all confused. Greene called Shakespeare (aka The Swan of Avon) an "upstart crow". Now the other suspect, who may actually have written this criticism is who you're asking for, right?

honestrosewater
May30-05, 10:16 PM
Right, the "other" Greene. Meh, I don't mean this person is suspected of being Greene- just of writing the quote... :yuck:

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 10:24 PM
Well, I am sure I read about this in Shakespeare by Anthony Burgess, but I can't for the life of me remember who the other suspect was, except that it was a rival playwright (not Johnson). Something about fox or foxes?

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 10:30 PM
OK the fox thing is spurious. That's a vague memory of "Volpone".

My guess is: Christopher Marlowe

honestrosewater
May30-05, 10:30 PM
No fox or foxes. It's easy to find if you're a googler. If you aren't, this guy only started writing after the publication of Greene's Groatsworth. His name appears in the title of several of Shakespeare's plays.

Well, with the new clue, Marlowe's out.

Okay, you probably haven't heard of him, but maybe you can get it from other clues. His first name appears in the title of several of Shakespeare's plays.
His last name rhymes with something I presume every self-respecting Brit has in their kitchen and a heavy genre of music.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 10:48 PM
The only Henry I'm finding is Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 10:57 PM
Nope, but Henry is right. Do you know the thing I presume every self-respecting Brit has in their kitchen? It also rhymes with a heavy genre of music.

JamesU
May30-05, 10:58 PM
crap??????

TheStatutoryApe
May30-05, 11:02 PM
Based off of that clue alone I would say the last name is Kettle.

zoobyshoe
May30-05, 11:03 PM
Kettle, Metal......Henry Bettle? Henry Settle? Henry Petal? Henry Phetal? I got nuthin.

Moonbear
May30-05, 11:03 PM
The only thing that comes to mind when you say a "heavy" genre of music is either metal (as in Heavy Metal)...and would the Brits have a "kettle" in the kitchen (all that tea drinking). Now I need to find a Henry who rhymes with that, huh?

Moonbear
May30-05, 11:07 PM
Nettle?????

Moonbear
May30-05, 11:11 PM
Aha! Chettle

TheStatutoryApe
May30-05, 11:13 PM
Ahhhh... I didn't see the previous post saying that it only rhymed with kettle.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 11:13 PM
Crap, I leave for a few minutes and everyone shows up. Yes to metal, kettle, and Chettle. I guess MB has a double turn!

Moonbear
May30-05, 11:16 PM
Okay, I'll start my question while waiting for confirmation.

Patented in 1889, this item is likely to be found at backyard barbecues, albeit an improved design of the original.

Moonbear
May30-05, 11:17 PM
Crap, I leave for a few minutes and everyone shows up. Yes to metal, kettle, and Chettle. I guess MB has a double turn!
Meh, just means nobody gets cheated out of a turn since it takes me three people's worth of questions to come up with a clue. :rofl:

honestrosewater
May30-05, 11:21 PM
I'm going to try going googleless :eek: and guess those corn-on-the-cob holders that you stick in the ends... er... whatever they're called.

Okay, I relapsed - roll film.

TheStatutoryApe
May30-05, 11:25 PM
I looked it up on google. I think that makes it much too easy.

Moonbear
May30-05, 11:27 PM
Nope, not roll film. Was that patented the same year? It's not what I have in mind. I'll have to sit here and think a bit more about this clue if it's too ambiguous.

TheStatutoryApe
May30-05, 11:28 PM
I found hienz tabasco pepper sauce.

Moonbear
May30-05, 11:31 PM
I found hienz tabasco pepper sauce.

I'll narrow it down a bit...it's not a food item.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 11:34 PM
Yeah, I'm finding conflicting answers- some say William Friese-Greene patented a camera that uses roll film in 1889, some it was George Eastman, some say Eastman patented a better type of film in 1889. If this is the answer, I need to find a reliable source. Anywho, Edison had like a bazillion patents in just 1889!

Anyway, I'm going back on the wagon. Or off the wagon, whichever. And I think the clue is just fine for now.

honestrosewater
May30-05, 11:38 PM
A bug zapper?

Moonbear
May30-05, 11:42 PM
Yeah, I'm finding conflicting answers- some say William Friese-Greene patented a camera that uses roll film in 1889, some it was George Eastman, some say Eastman patented a better type of film in 1889. If this is the answer, I need to find a reliable source. Anywho, Edison had like a bazillion patents in just 1889!

Anyway, I'm going back on the wagon. Or off the wagon, whichever. And I think the clue is just fine for now.

Nothing to do with photography or Edison. Sorry, didn't realize half the stuff at backyard barbecues was patented the same year. :frown:

Moonbear
May30-05, 11:43 PM
A bug zapper?
Nope. And not the bugs either. :rofl:

honestrosewater
May31-05, 12:09 AM
Okay, I've only ruled out sunscreen and gas grills, so I think I would need a clue. Oh, is it some kind of disposable dish wear or napkins?

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 12:14 AM
The Charcoal Briquette?

Moonbear
May31-05, 12:17 AM
No to dishes, napkins and charcoal.

Oh, and I have given you a further clue...you might have overlooked it before. :wink:

honestrosewater
May31-05, 12:20 AM
The "Kiss the Cook" apron?! :tongue2:

Moonbear
May31-05, 12:33 AM
The "Kiss the Cook" apron?! :tongue2:
I like that answer, but no, that's not it. Okay, here's another clue. When you sit around with your buddies playing poker, you might use it then as well.

TheStatutoryApe
May31-05, 12:35 AM
A folding table?

honestrosewater
May31-05, 12:35 AM
A meat thermometer? :rofl: :rofl: Now that I see your new clue, this is very funny. I don't think I want to play poker with a meat thermometer.

JamesU
May31-05, 12:38 AM
what is it?

TheStatutoryApe
May31-05, 12:40 AM
Glass bottle packaging?

honestrosewater
May31-05, 12:41 AM
what is it?Gee, why didn't I think of that. :tongue2:

Moonbear
May31-05, 12:43 AM
Nobody has guessed it yet. One of the guesses is getting pretty close though (but I'm not telling you whose). :biggrin:

honestrosewater
May31-05, 12:51 AM
Wow, I was sure it was the folding table. I guessed canned beer, but that wasn't until later, and you said it wasn't food. I hope the meat thermometer wasn't close.

honestrosewater
May31-05, 12:51 AM
Oh, folding chairs!? Brody & Surgwar, June 11, 1889. :biggrin:

If that's it, TheStatutoryApe can have my turn if you want it.

JamesU
May31-05, 12:57 AM
a skyewer?

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 12:59 AM
The disposable paper plate.

honestrosewater
May31-05, 01:00 AM
The disposable paper plate.Guessed already.

Moonbear
May31-05, 01:01 AM
Oh, folding chairs!? Brody & Surgwar, June 11, 1889. :biggrin:

If that's it, TheStatutoryApe can have my turn if you want it.
That's it! Bravo!

JamesU
May31-05, 01:01 AM
it has to be a skewer... pokeer

edit: nvm

TheStatutoryApe
May31-05, 01:02 AM
Oh, folding chairs!? Brody & Surgwar, June 11, 1889. :biggrin:

If that's it, TheStatutoryApe can have my turn if you want it.
Oh wow. I tried that and didn't find it.
You can go ahead, are you logging off or something?

Moonbear
May31-05, 01:02 AM
I hope the meat thermometer wasn't close.
It wasn't, but I was having a good laugh thinking about what new meaning it brought to the game "poker." :rofl:

honestrosewater
May31-05, 01:06 AM
Oh wow. I tried that and didn't find it.
You can go ahead, are you logging off or something?No, but your guess gave me the idea. If you don't want it, I did just think of a clue.

It has four legs and is as tall as it is wide.

TheStatutoryApe
May31-05, 01:11 AM
It has four legs and is as tall as it is wide.
Hmmmm.... is it a living thing? Lol... can we change this to twenty questions?! :tongue:

JamesU
May31-05, 01:12 AM
micheal moore?

honestrosewater
May31-05, 01:20 AM
Eek, a clue already? You don't really need one; You only need to think inside of the box on this one. :wink:

TheStatutoryApe
May31-05, 01:27 AM
Eek, a clue already? You don't really need one; You only need to think inside of the box on this one. :wink:
Is it a square?

honestrosewater
May31-05, 01:29 AM
It was a square. How did it get legs?

JamesU
May31-05, 01:30 AM
it had birth defects

JamesU
May31-05, 01:56 AM
it needed to square dance?

honestrosewater
May31-05, 01:56 AM
Okay, I'm leaving now and don't want to hold things up. It's a square cut on the diagonal, the legs being the legs of the right triangles. I guess TheStatutoryApe is up. Have fun!

JamesU
May31-05, 01:58 AM
:mad: that was a trick-ish question

Chi Meson
May31-05, 10:14 AM
Sorry, I'm getting impatient. Seems I'm on an odd sleep cycle with everyone else in this forum. Let's just remember that statutoryApe is up, but in the meantime, here's a googleable one:

Kahiltna
Muldrow
Ruth

JamesU
May31-05, 02:36 PM
denali national park? with glaciers kahiltna Muldrow and ruth?

Chi Meson
May31-05, 06:14 PM
Specifically, "Glaciers of Denali." S'where I wanna be right now.

brewnog
May31-05, 06:18 PM
Oh no, yomamma's up...

Chi Meson
May31-05, 06:37 PM
That was only a stop-gap. StatutoryApe has an opportunity here...


we're waiting...

...jeez, I bet another forty pages go by as soon as I go to sleep.

TheStatutoryApe
May31-05, 07:25 PM
Oh sorry... I had to leave work.
Lets see... This should be an easy one.

It is a plastic capsule containing nitrogen and is an acutrament to the packaging of a particular food product. What is it called and what is the name of the food product?

rachmaninoff
May31-05, 07:58 PM
What's an "acutrament"?

Ivan Seeking
May31-05, 08:28 PM
Widget
Guinness Beer

Gokul43201
May31-05, 08:31 PM
That should have been 'accoutrement', meaning 'accessory'.

The thingy in the question could be a beer widget (I've seen it only in some beers though).

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 08:32 PM
What's an "acutrament"?
He has simply misspelled "accoutrement".

Gokul43201
May31-05, 08:32 PM
Oh, nevermind...this thread is crazy fast...

TheStatutoryApe
May31-05, 08:53 PM
Ivan got it.
And sorry about the misspelling. That's what I get for using google for a spell check.

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 08:57 PM
And sorry about the misspelling.
"Accoutrement" is a very commonly used word in the Northeast US. Do you have origins there?

Ivan Seeking
May31-05, 09:03 PM
Over 27,000 of these led the monk to the new laws. Genesis 1:20-27.

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 09:11 PM
Over 27,000 of these led the monk to the new laws. Genesis 1:20-27.
The monk would be Gregor Mendel, the new laws; the laws of inheritence, or genetics, but I don't know what the 27,000 refers to. (The Genesis clue didn't help with that, that I can see.)

Ivan Seeking
May31-05, 09:13 PM
Yesssssssss....

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 09:14 PM
Yesssssssss....
But what numbered 27,000?

Gokul43201
May31-05, 09:14 PM
The Genesis passage is obviously the opposite view to the "new laws". Were there 27,000 pea plants ?

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 09:15 PM
Yesssssssss....
Over 27,000 ssssssssssssnakes?

TheStatutoryApe
May31-05, 09:18 PM
"Accoutrement" is a very commonly used word in the Northeast US. Do you have origins there?
No. I'm not sure where I picked it up. I also spell colour with a "u" among other things.

Your turn Zoob.

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 09:21 PM
No. I'm not sure where I picked it up. I also spell colour with a "u" among other things.
In NH you hear someone say "accoutrement" at least once a day in the course of normal conversation. When I left there, I found I had to drop it from my vocabulary. Most people hadn't heard the word, and the ones who had thought I was being pretentious when I threw it so casually around.

Ivan Seeking
May31-05, 09:22 PM
Were there 27,000 pea plants ?

You are correct!

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 09:24 PM
This american designed a machine that could rule 20,000 straight lines to an inch on glass with absolute precision.

Danger
May31-05, 09:34 PM
This american designed a machine that could rule 20,000 straight lines to an inch on glass with absolute precision.
Fresnel? 10

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 09:36 PM
Fresnel? 10
Right idea. Wrong person. This man also did some elegant electrical work. Not a well known person, though.

JamesU
May31-05, 10:13 PM
oooh! I think I saw this guy on TV!!! now I can't remember his name... :frown:

EDIT : nvm...I din't know it had to be american

TheStatutoryApe
May31-05, 11:38 PM
Henry A. Rowland

zoobyshoe
May31-05, 11:53 PM
Henry A. Rowland
Correct!.....

TheStatutoryApe
Jun1-05, 12:18 AM
Hmmmm...

A favorite game of both Winston Churchill and Henry Kissinger.

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 12:33 AM
Diplomacy?

TheStatutoryApe
Jun1-05, 12:47 AM
Diplomacy?
Correct.
I don't think I'm coming up with anything too hard here.
Your turn Ivan.

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 12:50 AM
I figured that, Risk, or Chess of course.

18436572

Moonbear
Jun1-05, 12:57 AM
18436572
Is that a clue?!?

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 01:00 AM
Is that a clue?!?

yes. :biggrin:

JamesU
Jun1-05, 01:04 AM
we need more clues...too much stuff on google

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 01:09 AM
How to "see the USA"

Danger
Jun1-05, 01:11 AM
How to "see the USA"
I've never driven down there, but are those highway numbers?

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 01:14 AM
I've never driven down there, but are those highway numbers?

No. I learned this in high school.

TheStatutoryApe
Jun1-05, 01:15 AM
Firing order for a v-8 engine?

JamesU
Jun1-05, 01:17 AM
grrrr...I was going to say that....

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 01:18 AM
Firing order for a v-8 engine?

That's it!

JamesU
Jun1-05, 01:25 AM
APE?! i's your turn!

TheStatutoryApe
Jun1-05, 01:29 AM
Just looking for something interesting to ask about.

This person has been credited as the first computer programer though the program this person concieved was never used.

I hope this one is a bit more difficult.

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 01:30 AM
The good sir Babbage

TheStatutoryApe
Jun1-05, 01:33 AM
The good sir Babbage
Getting warm there but no.

JamesU
Jun1-05, 01:35 AM
Augusta Ada King

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 01:36 AM
An interesting aside: One of Babbages descendents is a customer of mine.

zoobyshoe
Jun1-05, 01:49 AM
An interesting aside: One of Babbages descendents is a customer of mine.
Does Babbage eat cabbage?

JamesU
Jun1-05, 01:50 AM
OMG! Augusta Ada King! APE!?

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 01:53 AM
Does Babbage eat cabbage?

Boy...you know...I never thought to ask. :biggrin:

So, programmers. Galileo?

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 02:21 AM
Does somebody want to go ahead while we wait for an answer from TheStatutoryApe?

JamesU
Jun1-05, 02:28 AM
I will since I missed my last one.. give me a minute

JamesU
Jun1-05, 02:30 AM
okay, nobody in the great thread of riddleness can get one. if nobody gets it here I'll just give it away

I don't think you'll find it on google:

Curved when I'm small
Flat when I'm all
Infanite is all
big, wide and tall

I extend in three directions
a paridox of perplexions

What am I?

Danger
Jun1-05, 02:32 AM
What am I?
Space? 10

JamesU
Jun1-05, 02:36 AM
no, not space...


think about lines 2&3 carefully

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 05:29 PM
Well come on yomamma, how about another clue?

TheStatutoryApe
Jun1-05, 07:30 PM
OMG! Augusta Ada King! APE!?
Yes correct.
Sorry I had to go again.

JamesU
Jun1-05, 08:17 PM
Well come on yomamma, how about another clue?
okay...it's VERY related to our smileys. but it has a special characteristic that the smileys don't

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 09:57 PM
Okay, how about giving it up and pick a new one?

JamesU
Jun1-05, 10:20 PM
k you go ivan

Ivan Seeking
Jun1-05, 11:57 PM
What was it?

JamesU
Jun2-05, 12:21 AM
it was a sphere

TheStatutoryApe
Jun2-05, 12:24 AM
Ah.... clever. I've never really been very good at those types of riddles. You want to try another or wait for Ivan to get back?

Gokul43201
Jun2-05, 12:26 AM
I thought so, so I'll go next :tongue2:

In 1897 the state legislature of Indiana passed a bill that (amongst other things) proclaimed that "this thing" henceforth take the value of about 9.2. Entirely by accident, the bill didn't make it past the Senate.

What was it ?

TheStatutoryApe
Jun2-05, 12:59 AM
Hahahahahaha... that's hilarious.

Ivan Seeking
Jun2-05, 01:36 AM
I thought so, so I'll go next :tongue2:

In 1897 the state legislature of Indiana passed a bill that (amongst other things) proclaimed that "this thing" henceforth take the value of about 9.2. Entirely by accident, the bill didn't make it past the Senate.

What was it ?

Is that unitless?

Moonbear
Jun2-05, 02:00 AM
I thought so, so I'll go next :tongue2:

In 1897 the state legislature of Indiana passed a bill that (amongst other things) proclaimed that "this thing" henceforth take the value of about 9.2. Entirely by accident, the bill didn't make it past the Senate.

What was it ?

Oh my, it was pi! :surprised

The critical passage in the bill is: "...disclosing the fourth important fact, that the ratio of the diameter and circumference is as five-fourths to four..." This statement claims that pi = 3.2 should be the law of Indiana (there is another passage that can be interpreted as giving a value of pi equal to 16/sqrt(3) which is approximately equal to 9.2).
http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/Labo/Ilan.Vardi/pi.html

Moonbear
Jun2-05, 02:07 AM
I've lost track here...was this an interim clue or an official clue? I can give one unless we're waiting for another.

Edit: Nevermind, I'm going to sleep. I wouldn't want to start a clue and then leave.

wolram
Jun2-05, 12:15 PM
One for the future, It flies but has no wings, it is not monochromatic but is
mono.

Ivan Seeking
Jun2-05, 05:24 PM
Mag-Lev? A monorail?

brewnog
Jun2-05, 05:41 PM
Ahhh! I reckon you might have hit the nail on the, urm, spot there.

Danger
Jun2-05, 05:47 PM
Ahhh! I reckon you might have hit the nail on the, urm, spot there.
Naw, you silly bugger. It's obviously fly-fishing line... :tongue:




I might have to hit the panic rack and get out of here with zero notice pretty soon. Lightning in the area and I don't have a surge protector.

Ivan Seeking
Jun2-05, 06:28 PM
Moonbear is due a question anyway.

Ivan Seeking
Jun2-05, 07:35 PM
WOW! :surprised Moonbear is not here!

Okay, here's one.

Two years before Special Relativity, what unlikely event transpired that would later become a daily occurence.

Danger
Jun2-05, 07:42 PM
Two years before Special Relativity, what unlikely event transpired that would later become a daily occurence.
Powered flight?

Ivan Seeking
Jun2-05, 07:52 PM
Not powered flight...

Unlikely in the sense of all four coordinates.

dextercioby
Jun2-05, 07:56 PM
Le prémière Tour de France...?

First powered heavier-than-air flight?

Daniel.

dextercioby
Jun2-05, 07:57 PM
Lorentz transformations...?(Lorentzian boosts).

Wiki gives it to 1904.

Daniel.

Ivan Seeking
Jun2-05, 08:06 PM
No, eh no. But of the four coordinates, we really need only consider three coordinates each. The third coordinate necessarily being the same according to the first two.

Ivan Seeking
Jun2-05, 08:50 PM
So as not to be too vague

Two years before Special Relativity, what unlikely event transpired that would later become a daily occurence.

that was unlikely in the sense of the (all four) coordinates. [But of the four coordinates, we really need only consider three coordinates each. The third coordinate necessarily being the same according to the first two].

So we are talking about two things involved in this event.

Ivan Seeking
Jun2-05, 10:00 PM
41.6 X 84.7
41.9 X 80.5
39.6 X 80.9
39.1 X 84.8

Ivan Seeking
Jun2-05, 10:49 PM
41.6n X 84.7w
41.9n X 80.5w
39.6n X 80.9w
39.1n X 84.8w

1903???

rachmaninoff
Jun2-05, 11:12 PM
Something that happened in Ohio?

wolram
Jun3-05, 12:13 PM
Mag-Lev? A monorail?
nyet

FredGarvin
Jun3-05, 02:07 PM
The Wright Brothers flew their glider in 1903.

Ivan Seeking
Jun3-05, 03:30 PM
Something that happened in Ohio?

Yes, but since Wolram is still up I just post my answer.

The first two car crash occured in Ohio in 1903. They had been the only two cars in the state at the time.
http://www.weitzlux.com/freecarcrashattorneyevaluation_764.html

Unlikely but true, the two cars had to be in the same place at the same time, hence the four coordinates, but the third, altitude, is determined by the first two when confined to the earth's surface. The four sets of numbers given next were the approx latitude and longitude of the four corners of the state of Ohio.

wolram
Jun3-05, 06:17 PM
oh this is so confusing, my clue is so easy, mono = singular, i can not keep up
with this thread, the fly is not adverse no cabbage

Ivan Seeking
Jun3-05, 06:27 PM
the fly is not adverse no cabbage

:confused:

Was that an error or a clue?

Mk
Jun3-05, 08:08 PM
Spider's silk?

wolram
Jun4-05, 03:05 AM
Was that an error or a clue?

oh cobblers,sorry. it should be, "not adverse to cabbage".
fly, single, no wings, salute.

Mk
Jun4-05, 05:17 AM
Uhm, more hints? Is it a machine?

wolram
Jun4-05, 05:31 AM
Uhm, more hints? Is it a machine?

No.

Rod, perch, chain, im missing something
whatever it is this thing is usually on top.

wolram
Jun4-05, 05:38 AM
And it has to be a specific thing, not just any one will do.
cabbage and grass and go will tell you which.

honestrosewater
Jun4-05, 05:43 AM
Something about money... silver dollar?

wolram
Jun4-05, 06:03 AM
It can fly but has no wings
it is singular
cabbage, grass, go, tells you which
rod perch chain something is missing---------
it is specific not any one will do
salute
mad leader?

honestrosewater
Jun4-05, 06:12 AM
It can fly but has no wings
it is singular
cabbage, grass, go, tells you which
rod perch chain something is missing---------
it is specific not any one will do
salute
mad leader?A Green Beret?

wolram
Jun4-05, 06:35 AM
A Green Beret?

warm

Mad leader? It can fly, specific

honestrosewater
Jun4-05, 06:56 AM
The Green Lantern?

wolram
Jun4-05, 07:06 AM
The Green Lantern?

still warm

Others can be different colours.

Mad leader?

honestrosewater
Jun4-05, 07:11 AM
The Green Lantern?

still warm

Others can be different colours.

Mad leader?Ugh, I'm thinking Stalin, Hitler types of mad leaders (Green Lantern came from Stalin). what flies without wings- flags, stripes, colors, squirrels... eh...

wolram
Jun4-05, 07:25 AM
This leader is still alive, only some think he is mad

wolram
Jun4-05, 07:27 AM
He may be more than a cad.

honestrosewater
Jun4-05, 07:37 AM
Green Fever? Green bombs, green monkeys, green stuff AHHH
Saddam, Kim Jong-il, Bush

wolram
Jun4-05, 07:49 AM
Something green that can fly colonel

honestrosewater
Jun4-05, 08:11 AM
Okay, you won't believe what I found- it's very short.
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/character/bio/1119028.html

wolram
Jun4-05, 08:24 AM
Oh no your going cold, its a thing a green thing that can fly
the colonel is a clue as to where it comes from.
mad colonel more than a cad.

rachmaninoff
Jun4-05, 08:33 AM
Pinochet? Something from Chile?

wolram
Jun4-05, 08:38 AM
Pinochet? Something from Chile?

no

this guys been seen in a tent.

honestrosewater
Jun4-05, 08:41 AM
yeah, I just thought that was a funny coincidence...

Is Mad Mike the leader?

wolram
Jun4-05, 08:46 AM
Is Mad Mike the leader?

no

He is MORE than a CAD

rachmaninoff
Jun4-05, 08:53 AM
fly fishing?

honestrosewater
Jun4-05, 08:57 AM
Do you have to be British to get these clues? :tongue2:

rachmaninoff
Jun4-05, 08:59 AM
MORE CAD anagrams to ACME ROD

http://www.landbigfish.com/tacklestore/showcase.cfm?PID=915
Acme Kastmaster (found by google)

fly fishing; the caster (is that what it's called?) flies and has no wings.

wolram
Jun4-05, 09:02 AM
Do you have to be British to get these clues?

I dont think so.
You have the green, you have said what it is a few posts back, in your list.
now all you have to do is say which specific one it is.

wolram
Jun4-05, 09:06 AM
fly fishing; the caster (is that what it's called?) flies and has no wings.
no

Cad+more, not an anagram, leader, colonel

honestrosewater
Jun4-05, 09:10 AM
The flag of Libya?

rachmaninoff
Jun4-05, 09:12 AM
"Colonel Qadhafi"

wolram
Jun4-05, 09:14 AM
The flag of Libya?

YES

honestrosewater
Jun4-05, 09:17 AM
You said your question was easy!!!! :eek: :approve: That's the hardest question I've seen. Phew. Lots of fun though. Okay, now I need to think...

Ah, great, I have to leave. Someone else can take over.

brewnog
Jun4-05, 09:26 AM
Very good wolram, very good!

Honest, Europe.

wolram
Jun4-05, 09:32 AM
Very good wolram, very good!

Honest, Europe.

Thanke kind sir, is that a clue?

brewnog
Jun4-05, 10:53 AM
Honest, Europe.

Thanke kind sir, is that a clue?

Nope, I was saying "honestrosewater, you're up!"

Obviously far too cryptic... :smile:

Gokul43201
Jun4-05, 04:22 PM
Obviously far too cryptic... :smile:But hardly unexpected... :wink:

Ivan Seeking
Jun4-05, 11:25 PM
Moonbear is still due a question.

honestrosewater
Jun5-05, 10:24 AM
Moonbear is still due a question.What is with that- she's always due a question... :tongue2: Well, I'm here and ready.

America and China have this in common, though America's is bigger.

brewnog
Jun5-05, 11:15 AM
A space programme?

honestrosewater
Jun5-05, 11:21 AM
No, this is something only America and China have.

BTW, I mean the US, not the Americas, if there's any confusion.

honestrosewater
Jun5-05, 11:46 AM
China may lose theirs soon.

honestrosewater
Jun5-05, 12:03 PM
Alligators?

zoobyshoe
Jun5-05, 12:05 PM
Alligators?
I'm very curious as to why you are guessing answers to your own question.

brewnog
Jun5-05, 12:10 PM
I'm very curious as to why you are guessing answers to your own question.


Me too, me too!

What's going on, hrw?!

JamesU
Jun5-05, 12:23 PM
their ego?

wolram
Jun5-05, 12:38 PM
What's going on, hrw?!

impatience, no one answered for AGES n AGES.

honestrosewater
Jun5-05, 02:29 PM
:rofl: Yeah, I had to leave- I wrote another post explaining that, but I guess it didn't stick. :confused: It was alligators. The Chinese Alligator is facing extinction. Anyway, someone else can go- if there's anyone still around.

brewnog
Jun5-05, 02:57 PM
Holland has one of these, so does Greenland.

The USA doesn't have any, neither does the UK, or Canada.

Danger
Jun5-05, 02:59 PM
Holland has it, so does Greenland.

The USA doesn't have it, neither does the UK, or Canada.
Honest government?

brewnog
Jun5-05, 03:03 PM
Ha, no. :smile:

brewnog
Jun5-05, 04:08 PM
The Seychelles and Philippines also have this thing, I believe.

France, Germany, Spain, and indeed most other European countries don't have it.

Russia does, but China and India don't.

wolram
Jun5-05, 04:09 PM
A giant joint?

brewnog
Jun5-05, 04:10 PM
Heheheh. No. :smile:

honestrosewater
Jun5-05, 04:26 PM
Is it a living thing?

brewnog
Jun5-05, 04:30 PM
Is it a living thing?

No.

Having done a bit of research, I can tell you that the only places in Africa which seem to have it are Cameroon, Morocco, the Seychelles, Sierra Leone, and Guinea-Bissaau, (which has two of them!).

Evo
Jun5-05, 04:32 PM
dike? ......

brewnog
Jun5-05, 04:33 PM
dike? ......

I beg your pardon!

Evo
Jun5-05, 04:35 PM
I beg your pardon!is that a no? :blushing:

brewnog
Jun5-05, 04:35 PM
is that a no? :blushing:

Yes! :smile:

honestrosewater
Jun5-05, 04:48 PM
I think I've ruled out anything concerning languages or government...
Maybe some kind of geographical feature? The US has about everything I can think of... Something about transportation?? Just thinking aloud...
Also nothing to do with flags...

brewnog
Jun5-05, 04:49 PM
I think I've ruled out anything concerning languages or government...
Maybe some kind of geographical feature? The US has about everything I can think of... Something about transportation?? Just thinking aloud...


Bear in mind that I'm lazy, and relatively ignorant. I really wouldn't look that hard for this one.

Evo
Jun5-05, 04:56 PM
grits........

brewnog
Jun5-05, 04:57 PM
grits........


I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

Evo
Jun5-05, 04:58 PM
you just did :biggrin:

brewnog
Jun5-05, 05:02 PM
you just did :biggrin:

Nothing gets past you, does it?


Anyway. It looks like this one needs a superior mind to crack. Where's zoob and uncle Danger?

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 05:03 PM
Is this a type of mine?

brewnog
Jun5-05, 05:04 PM
Is this a type of mine?

No.

To be honest, I thought someone would get this within the first few goes. I feel kind of guilty for wasting peoples' time with such a stupid puzzle!

I'll give you another 10 mins or so before revealing, and then you can all cuss me and someone can post a proper one.

Evo
Jun5-05, 05:05 PM
Nothing gets past you, does it?I'm sharp as a tack. :approve:

Anyway. It looks like this one needs a superior mind to crack. Where's zoob and uncle Danger? :grumpy: How about another clue?

brewnog
Jun5-05, 05:08 PM
Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and Missouri all have one of these.

Mississippi has a shedload of them.

Arkansas, Ohio, Oregon, California and New Jersey all have none.

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 05:15 PM
Crud! I know this is something obvious but its not hitting me. :devil:

brewnog
Jun5-05, 05:17 PM
Crud! I know this is something obvious but its not hitting me. :devil:


Mmm, I'll be, urrrrm, doubled up in laughter if you don't get it soon...

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 05:22 PM
double consonant

brewnog
Jun5-05, 05:30 PM
double consonant

Close enough, double letter.

Sorry it was crap, I didn't think it would last this long.

Evo
Jun5-05, 05:33 PM
We don't have a knife through the heart smilie? :devil:

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 05:38 PM
Whoops, I forgot about Cameroon.

No, I thought that was pretty good... Maybe a few more clues would have helped. It is tough because you can hardly say anything without giving it away. I was definitely burning up Google:Language and alphabet, politics, laws, geography, industry... and for six or seven countries :yuck: .

back in a few minutes

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 06:01 PM
Measuring 600' X 100' X 50' [one significant figure], hush was the word. For a deeply held secret was at stake.

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 06:13 PM
Neptune
Golf
CIA

Huckleberry
Jun5-05, 06:13 PM
Philadelphia project, project rainbow USS Eldridge?

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 06:13 PM
No, this was real. :biggrin:

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 06:15 PM
In fact I have stood within a few hundred feet of this.

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 06:19 PM
An indirect clue:
How to catch a fly.

Huckleberry
Jun5-05, 06:21 PM
The Eldridge was a real ship. It's just the project that is fictional. Hmm, I probably shouldn't guess Noah's ark either then. :biggrin:

Is it the world's largest bee hive?

Evo
Jun5-05, 06:24 PM
World's largest fly swatter?

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 06:24 PM
Is it the world's largest bee hive?

No

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 06:25 PM
World's largest fly swatter?

No, :biggrin: , that last clue has an exclusive context that cannot be extrapolated - unless you know exactly how it connects, don't guess because you won't.

Evo
Jun5-05, 06:27 PM
Just think of the skill you would need to hit a fly with something this size. :biggrin:

Andy
Jun5-05, 06:28 PM
ooh, this is a good thread, bit too clever for me though.

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 06:31 PM
ooh, this is a good thread, bit too clever for me though.


Ahh, come on Andy, put your google skills to the test.

Another clue
Benicia

Evo
Jun5-05, 06:35 PM
I have a headache and can't google. :frown:

Huckleberry
Jun5-05, 06:36 PM
The trash dump in Benicia, California?

You know, the one where they have that secret military base with all the black helicopters.

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 06:40 PM
The trash dump in Benicia, California?

No...

You know, the one where they have that secret military base with all the black helicopters.[/QUOTE]

,,,but that answer finds a bit of a connection.

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 06:41 PM
but I can neither confirm nor deny whether records exist

Andy
Jun5-05, 06:54 PM
anything to do with the neptune project with all those fibre optic cables?

brewnog
Jun5-05, 07:04 PM
RAF Fylingdale?

Huckleberry
Jun5-05, 07:07 PM
I know, its a giant paper mache duck with a handlebar moustache named Groucho. The duck is named Groucho, not the moustache.

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 07:07 PM
RAF Fylingdale?

No

Andy
Jun5-05, 07:09 PM
obviously not my fibre optic thing in da pacific

Gokul43201
Jun5-05, 07:19 PM
Yes or no, Ivan : Is it in the Bay Area ?

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 07:20 PM
obviously not my fibre optic thing in da pacific

no.

One more clue and then I have to go for just a bit.
1973

Ivan Seeking
Jun5-05, 07:22 PM
Yes or no, Ivan : Is it in the Bay Area ?
Yes.

Gokul43201
Jun5-05, 07:34 PM
1973 was the year the draft was rescinded. Something military, methinks ...

Ivan Seeking
Jun6-05, 12:06 AM
Howard ...

Evo
Jun6-05, 12:21 AM
Project Jennifer
Hughes Glomar Explorer (AG 193)

I had thought the Spruce Goose, but the dimensions didn't fit, and then the date was wrong from your later hint.

Ivan Seeking
Jun6-05, 12:32 AM
Project Jennifer
Hughes Glomar Explorer (AG 193)

I had thought the Spruce Goose, but the dimensions didn't fit, and then the date was wrong from your later hint.

CORRECT!!! Neptune refers to the sea.

The Hughes Glomar Explorer [HGE] was built in 1973 by Sun Shipbuilding and Drydock Co. for an intricate CIA undertaking. The mission of Glomar Explorer was to raise a Soviet nulear submarine [the deeply held secret] that had sunk in the Pacific, resting on the ocean floor nearly 17,000 ft. ...The Soviet Golf-II Class ballistic missile submarine sank on April 11, 1968, ...

...the vessel has since been mothballed with the Naval Reserve Fleet in Suisun Bay CA, where it could be seen by cars crossing the Benicia bridge on U.S. Highway 680 east of San Francisco.

...This was the first instance of an agency using the "can neither confirm nor deny" answer in response to a FOIA request. Since then, the terms "Glomar response," and "Glomarization" are used to describe an agency’s response when they can neither confirm nor deny whether records exist.
http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/jennifer.htm

When this was a very secret enterprise in the early 70's, it was sometimes docked in Long Beach harbor. We passed it in our boat few times while heading out to fish. For some reason my dad knew that it was involved in work for the CIA, so we made a real point to take a look; and stand and wave at the secret agents as we went by.

Ivan Seeking
Jun6-05, 12:37 AM
Oh yes, about the time that he refused to wear clothes any longer, Howard Hughes wrote an instruction manual for his employees. It instructed them how to catch flies with their bare hands.

Evo
Jun6-05, 01:14 AM
This is pictorial.

JamesU
Jun6-05, 01:18 AM
curved tetrahedral surface with 1 verticy open and filled with a spherical object and is surrounded by an eliptical object with an interesting pattern?

that's the best I could do...

Ivan Seeking
Jun6-05, 01:18 AM
Too easy.:biggrin:

JamesU
Jun6-05, 01:19 AM
oohh! is it some kind of clock?

JamesU
Jun6-05, 01:21 AM
why does evo always post here but it says she's not online?

Danger
Jun6-05, 01:21 AM
Too easy.:biggrin:
Yeah, that one's a bit obvious. But what's Evo doing with an industrial-grade egg salad masher at home?

honestrosewater
Jun6-05, 01:25 AM
Too easy.:biggrin:Easy for you... I need a hint (maybe time period or country?) Oh, is it in the Sistine Chapel??
I was thinking a triangle with an eye in it is a Masonic symbol, but the triangle is upside down :grumpy:

Ivan Seeking
Jun6-05, 01:30 AM
I have an unfair advantage on this one.

Danger
Jun6-05, 01:34 AM
Where's that wanker Brewnog hiding? This is his kind of thing. :uhh:

honestrosewater
Jun6-05, 01:44 AM
What's the painting in the background? Peter and the wolf? Is that a dragon's foot?

Mk
Jun6-05, 04:47 AM
Looks like a calendar, or an early model of the universe.

zoobyshoe
Jun6-05, 05:58 AM
I have an unfair advantage on this one.
Likewise. If you've seen one before it is obvious.


To those still guessing, there is a near-clue here:

Where's that wanker Brewnog hiding? This is his kind of thing. :uhh:

Also, it's not art.

brewnog
Jun6-05, 09:56 AM
I know what it is!

I'd like to see some non-engineers think about this one a bit.

zoobyshoe
Jun6-05, 10:03 AM
If I didn't already know what it was, I can't think how you'd find out, except by showing the picture to people till you found someone who recognized it.

Evo
Jun6-05, 10:28 AM
hints - a triangular rotor that revolves around a shaft

patented in the late 1920's

(seems a lot of the guys already know this one anyway)

honestrosewater
Jun6-05, 10:35 AM
Why didn't someone just say Wankel rotary engine?? You like to torture me? That's it, I know. :grumpy: That is it, right? Yeah, an eye in a triangle- why didn't someone just shoot me?

Evo
Jun6-05, 10:54 AM
Why didn't someone just say Wankel rotary engine?? You like to torture me? That's it, I know. :grumpy: That is it, right? Yeah, an eye in a triangle- why didn't someone just shoot me?Wankel Rotary Engine is correct!!!

honestrosewater
Jun6-05, 12:12 PM
Wankel Rotary Engine is correct!!!Hooray! I was only the last person to get it. :rolleyes: Oh well, I guess a win is a win.

You will find a monkey, horse, and duck in these.

honestrosewater
Jun6-05, 12:39 PM
No to the first thing Danger says.
I'll be back in a flash.

wolram
Jun6-05, 12:41 PM
i though for a moment ,and If its what i think it is, i must have thought right,
I could be wrong, and in that case im thinking my thoughts might be wrong
do you get marks for thinking the right answer?

honestrosewater
Jun6-05, 12:48 PM
Sure, special people gets marks for everything. :smile:

What do you think it is? What happened to people actually trying to guess the answer?!?!

wolram
Jun6-05, 01:00 PM
The Marx brothers had shows, i can only remember, Duck soup, but
horse something, and chicken something featured somewhere.

JamesU
Jun6-05, 01:15 PM
it's a zoo :uhh:

honestrosewater
Jun6-05, 01:16 PM
Oh, I was going to have so much fun with this one too.
Monkey Business, Horse Feathers, and Duck Soup. And many, many more. They're hilarious. They're movies, BTW. Did you see them on whatchamacallit- Vaudeville?

wolram
Jun6-05, 01:21 PM
Oh, I was going to have so much fun with this one too.
Monkey Business, Horse Feathers, and Duck Soup. And many, many more. They're hilarious.

Have you seen them recently? i used to love watching them but haven't seen
any of their stuff for years.

Danger
Jun6-05, 01:25 PM
No to the first thing Danger says.
:rofl:
You mean it's not Artman's bedroom? :confused:

wolram
Jun6-05, 01:27 PM
Can not think of a good question so this will have to do.

Use this for making water ? what a waste, how hot was it?

Danger
Jun6-05, 01:28 PM
I know what it is!
Sorry about the insult. You're naturally the first Brit that comes to mind, and that 'wanker' gag just wouldn't have sounded right in reference to a Yank. :biggrin:

Danger
Jun6-05, 01:30 PM
Can not think of a good question so this will have to do.
If by 'good' you mean 'incomprehensible', then you're doing just fine. :tongue:

wolram
Jun6-05, 01:32 PM
Sorry about the insult. You're naturally the first Brit that comes to mind, and that 'wanker' gag just wouldn't have sounded right in reference to a Yank. :biggrin:

Is that supposed to have a double meaning? :confused:

honestrosewater
Jun6-05, 01:35 PM
Have you seen them recently? i used to love watching them but haven't seen
any of their stuff for years.I watch them often. Duck Soup is my favorite. We watched them as a family and have them memorized, so we'll sometimes just start running through a movie at a restaurant or something, especially to embarrass the young ones. :tongue2:

wolram
Jun6-05, 01:36 PM
If by 'good' you mean 'incomprehensible', then you're doing just fine

put some," trim", on and take the weight of :smile:

honestrosewater
Jun6-05, 01:36 PM
:rofl:
You mean it's not Artman's bedroom? :confused:See, some men are dependable :)

Danger
Jun6-05, 01:40 PM
Is that supposed to have a double meaning? :confused:
If you mean the original post, sort of. It was just my way of showing the other people who knew the answer that I also knew, plus maybe give a cryptic clue to the others. :devil:
If you're referring to the one that you quoted, no. If you can come up with a second one, more power to you. :biggrin:

wolram
Jun6-05, 01:42 PM
Have to go for a bevy, sugar cane, i hope catch you later.

honestrosewater
Jun6-05, 01:44 PM
Pregnancy?
Okay, maybe it's time for me to call it a day.

Danger
Jun6-05, 01:46 PM
If I didn't already know what it was, I can't think how you'd find out, except by showing the picture to people till you found someone who recognized it.
I was thinking that an enlargement showing the spark plugs in more detail might do it.

In reference to Wolram's clues, the only thing that comes to mind at all is a 'cloud-seeding' aeroplane, and I know that's wrong.

wolram
Jun6-05, 03:28 PM
In reference to Wolram's clues, the only thing that comes to mind at all is a 'cloud-seeding' aeroplane, and I know that's wrong

Well if you get the temperature wrong in this process, the produce from this apparatus, "the thing i want", will make your mind cloudy.

zoobyshoe
Jun6-05, 03:30 PM
Use this for making water ? what a waste, how hot was it?
When you say "making water" do you mean:

1) peeing?

2) heating water?

3) making H2O from some something else?

zoobyshoe
Jun6-05, 03:41 PM
Well if you get the temperature wrong in this process, the produce from this apparatus, "the thing i want", will make your mind cloudy.
Sounds like distilling the water out of some kind of alcoholic brew, instead of distilling the alcohol out.

wolram
Jun6-05, 03:58 PM
Sounds like distilling the water out of some kind of alcoholic brew, instead of distilling the alcohol out.
Close.
and the "thing i whant is" ?

zoobyshoe
Jun6-05, 04:01 PM
and the "thing i whant is" ?
Scotch whiskey? Guiness stout? Champagne?

wolram
Jun6-05, 04:04 PM
Think about temperature, one gives water, one gives a headache, i want the
apparatus.

zoobyshoe
Jun6-05, 04:05 PM
A still....?

Ivan Seeking
Jun7-05, 02:59 AM
I think Moonbear still has a question due.

:biggrin:

Andy
Jun7-05, 08:51 AM
I cant beleive there was one that i knew and i wasnt online to get it!

brewnog
Jun7-05, 09:55 AM
Sorry about the insult. You're naturally the first Brit that comes to mind, and that 'wanker' gag just wouldn't have sounded right in reference to a Yank. :biggrin:


No worries, I'm still happy that we are allowed to say "wanker" in here without Evo telling us off!

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 10:08 AM
No worries, I'm still happy that we are allowed to say "wanker" in here without Evo telling us off!
She may not know what it means. It's not used here, in the US. It took me a while to work out a translation.

Andy
Jun7-05, 10:24 AM
silly tossars.

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 10:25 AM
silly tossars.
Don't start! Could take me months to figure out what "tossars" are!

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 10:32 AM
The results of this experiment were so conclusive that the last doubters of atomic theory were forced to surrender. What was the experiment?

wolram
Jun7-05, 11:07 AM
A still....?

correct.

Danger
Jun7-05, 11:55 AM
No worries, I'm still happy that we are allowed to say "wanker" in here without Evo telling us off!
That's nuthin'; I seem to remember you getting away with 'twat'.

The results of this experiment were so conclusive that the last doubters of atomic theory were forced to surrender. What was the experiment?
Hiroshima?

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 12:01 PM
Hiroshima?
Negatory..

brewnog
Jun7-05, 12:13 PM
Rutherford and his gold foil?

I'm just saying that because I had an exam in his lecture hall the other day.

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 12:15 PM
Rutherford and his gold foil?

I'm just saying that because I had an exam in his lecture hall the other day.
Good reason. Wrong experiment.

Danger
Jun7-05, 12:24 PM
Curie's radium salts and film discovery?

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 12:26 PM
Curie's radium salts and film discovery?
No. But I'd say everyone's in the right, very general, ballpark.

wolram
Jun7-05, 12:30 PM
!911 Rutherford used alpha particle beam to test for atomic structure
he termed the center of the atom, nucleus.

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 12:32 PM
!911 Rutherford used alpha particle beam to test for atomic structure
he termed the center of the atom, nucleus.
Brewnog already guessed Rutherford.

You guys are thinking too positively. Think negative.

brewnog
Jun7-05, 12:38 PM
Thomson and his CRT?

wolram
Jun7-05, 12:39 PM
You guys are thinking too positively. Think negative.

Ok, there is no way i can crack this one.

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 12:39 PM
Thomson and his CRT?
Nope. Still right ball park.

brewnog
Jun7-05, 12:44 PM
Chadwick and his cloud chambers?

wolram
Jun7-05, 12:46 PM
Ions were first theorized by Michael Faraday around 1830, to describe the portions of molecules that travel either to an anode or to a cathode.

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 12:52 PM
Chadwick and his cloud chambers?
No.
Ions were first theorized by Michael Faraday around 1830, to describe the portions of molecules that travel either to an anode or to a cathode.
Also no.

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 12:53 PM
The experiment involved a short focus telescope.

brewnog
Jun7-05, 12:54 PM
William Crooke's vacuum tubes?

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 12:55 PM
William Crooke's vacuum tubes?
No. The experiment also involved an electric field.

brewnog
Jun7-05, 12:56 PM
Millikan's Oil Drop!

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 12:57 PM
Millikan's Oil Drop!
Indeed!!!!!!!!

brewnog
Jun7-05, 01:01 PM
Woo! Throw enough cack around and some of it's bound to stick!


Ok, I've almost got a good clue coming up...

Danger
Jun7-05, 01:04 PM
Woo! Throw enough cack around and some of it's bound to stick!


Ok, I've almost got a good clue coming up...
I thought that was your clue.

brewnog
Jun7-05, 01:13 PM
I thought that was your clue.

Nah, that would have been too easy. (Artman's bedroom again, I believe).

Ok.

What is shown in the picture?

http://personalpages.umist.ac.uk/student/E.Smith-2/whatisthis.jpg

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 01:17 PM
Freshly harvested cauliflowers

brewnog
Jun7-05, 01:18 PM
Freshly harvested cauliflowers

No.

But I was hoping you'd say that. :smile:

Argentum Vulpes
Jun7-05, 01:18 PM
This is a rehash of an older question

When I first stated I was 18436572 then I went to 18726543, my cousin started at 15426378 then went to 13726548, and a third cousin of mine has stayed at 18436572. What am I and who are my cousins?

enjoy

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 01:19 PM
Freshly sheered wool

brewnog
Jun7-05, 01:21 PM
Freshly sheered wool
Nope. :smile:

Argentum Vulpes
Jun7-05, 01:24 PM
snow-ball bush flowers

brewnog
Jun7-05, 01:26 PM
snow-ball bush flowers

What?! No.

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 01:29 PM
Fungal/bacterial colony thingies grown in a lab?

Argentum Vulpes
Jun7-05, 01:33 PM
harvested cotton?

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 01:34 PM
Lint bundles from a towel washing service?

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 01:38 PM
A failed early attempt at microwave popcorn?

JamesU
Jun7-05, 01:40 PM
it looks like a bunch of starfish...

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 01:48 PM
Some kind of food/dumpling dough ready to be cooked.

JamesU
Jun7-05, 01:49 PM
young zoobies...

brewnog
Jun7-05, 01:53 PM
harvested cotton?

Yes!

Very good.

To put it in context, here's the full picture.

http://www.france.diplomatie.fr/label_france/ENGLISH/ART/aerienne/pics/01.jpg

Copyright belongs to Yann Arthus-Bertrand, a French aerial photographer. I highly recommend his book, - "The Earth from the Air"

zoobyshoe
Jun7-05, 01:56 PM
OK. Argentum's clue was the firing order of some sort of V-8 engine.

JamesU
Jun7-05, 01:57 PM
wasn't that one already done?

brewnog
Jun7-05, 01:58 PM
wasn't that one already done?

Yeah, he said it was a re-hashed pearoast.

Argentum Vulpes
Jun7-05, 02:05 PM
OK. Argentum's clue was the firing order of some sort of V-8 engine.

You are on the right track.

wasn't that one already done?

Yes like I said it was for kicks and giggles while we hashed on brewnog's question. I'm on my lunch break so I'll have an actual question later tonight, just need to cheeck some facts, obfuscate, and google proof it. :biggrin:

wolram
Jun7-05, 03:53 PM
obfuscate
Thats tricky, be careful

Argentum Vulpes
Jun7-05, 07:01 PM
I'm off work so here is my clue for this fun and exciting game....

I was painted with a dope.

Have fun. :biggrin:

brewnog
Jun7-05, 07:02 PM
Silicon semiconductor?

Argentum Vulpes
Jun7-05, 07:08 PM
You think I'd make it that easy? IOW nope. It dose fall inbetween the discovery of the semiconductor and it's mass production.

brewnog
Jun7-05, 07:13 PM
Urrm, a ruby rod for a diode laser?

Argentum Vulpes
Jun7-05, 07:22 PM
nope and think along other lines, If you want in a bit I'll float another clue

Danger
Jun7-05, 07:59 PM
Sure, go and wreck it by including a time frame. I was thinking of fabric aircraft fusilages.

Ivan Seeking
Jun8-05, 01:47 AM
LSD blotter paper

Danger
Jun8-05, 01:48 AM
LSD blotter paper
So that's why you have that glazed look all the time...

Ivan Seeking
Jun8-05, 01:51 AM
So that's why you have that glazed look all the time...


That's nice of you to notice, but no, I get my complexion from one of my mothers.

Danger
Jun8-05, 02:04 AM
I get my complexion from one of my mothers.
Yeah, I imagine that a guy like you must have gotten passed around a lot as an embryo. Which one got stuck with giving birth?

honestrosewater
Jun8-05, 05:06 AM
Is anyone around??


I need someone to entertain me!! Entertain me!

Ivan Seeking
Jun8-05, 02:54 PM
This is why I keep pushing to keep two questions running. This helps to keep the thread active.

I think Moonbear is due a question.

Danger
Jun8-05, 06:20 PM
I need someone to entertain me!! Entertain me!
Yes, Audrey... :rolleyes:

Argentum Vulpes
Jun8-05, 07:14 PM
Sorry for taking so long to respond.

Sure, go and wreck it by including a time frame. I was thinking of fabric aircraft fusilages.

how dose including a time frame wreck it, you might be onto something, hint hint.

LSD blotter paper.

Wow that came in from left field.

And I do have an easy intermediary question (post 1438)

Danger
Jun8-05, 07:49 PM
how dose including a time frame wreck it, you might be onto something, hint hint.
A model aeroplane?

SOS2008
Jun8-05, 07:56 PM
It keeps changing, and keeps getting longer, and is used for human entertainment all around the world. What is it? :tongue:

Argentum Vulpes
Jun8-05, 08:00 PM
A model aeroplane?

Right track, wrong scale

Danger
Jun8-05, 08:03 PM
It keeps changing, and keeps getting longer, and is used for human entertainment all around the world. What is it? :tongue:
It's either the 'Thread Killer Thread' or that thing you keep in the closet.

Right track, wrong scale
I am becoming perplexed. :confused:
I also have to get my *** in gear or I'll be late for my pool match. I'll check back in when I get home (about 3-5 hours).

Argentum Vulpes
Jun8-05, 09:03 PM
The Second clue (even it has been rendered somewhat moot I'm not wasting it)

Phil Hartman cut a commerical for what my skin was essentially, the solid version of course, DAMM!

Drum roll please

The third clue is,

I was going to float on but went down in a blaze of glory.

I'll check tomorrow to see if there is any right answers, I've got an early day at the desk tomorrow :cry:

hypatia
Jun8-05, 11:24 PM
The Hindenburg?

Huckleberry
Jun9-05, 12:26 AM
dose dope damm semiconductors Phil Hartman. I have no idea.

Argentum Vulpes
Jun9-05, 06:37 PM
The Hindenburg?

Yep you are right.

Since there is some confusion about my clues let me explain them

I was painted with a dope.

This was just a broad question to get people thinking about things that are doped, like semiconductors, plane skins, ect.

It dose fall inbetween the discovery of the semiconductor and it's mass production.

For this my research the semiconductor was discovered in the lab the 1830's ( link here (http://www.micron.com/k12/semiconductors/history.html) ) and went into mass production in the 1950's, the Hindenburg went down in 1937.

Phil Hartman cut a commerical for what my skin was essentially, the solid version of course, DAMM!

This was referring to Phil's character on News radio (Bill McNeal) and in a commerical he got all uppity about was For Rocket Fuel malt liquor (went something like "rocket fuel malt liquor DAMM!"). The doping on the skin of the Hindenburg was cotton base fabric painted with a mixture of cellulose nitrate, and aluminum powder. Bamm basic solid rocket fuel.

I was going to float on but went down in a blaze of glory.

The Hindenburg was just going to make a stop in Lakehurst NJ but during the docking procedure caught fire and was no more.

Hope that clears up some missunderstanding.

Ivan Seeking
Jun10-05, 12:32 AM
For this my research the semiconductor was discovered in the lab the 1830's ( link here (http://www.micron.com/k12/semiconductors/history.html) ) and went into mass production in the 1950's, the Hindenburg went down in 1937.

I read this to mean the discovery and mass production of the transistor, when I knew better! :grumpy:

Mk
Jun10-05, 05:49 AM
My name consists of baby goats and what volcanos make. What's the name I was born under?

Mk
Jun10-05, 05:51 AM
It keeps changing, and keeps getting longer, and is used for human entertainment all around the world. What is it? :tongue:
I don't know if this is a serious one or not... but I know the answer:

FRANZBEAR!!

hypatia
Jun10-05, 06:13 AM
lol you are Kid Rock?

wolram
Jun10-05, 08:32 AM
My name consists of baby goats and what volcanos make. What's the name I was born under?
Val kidman

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 08:43 AM
hypatia means Robert James Ritchie.

Time for the next question! :biggrin:

Ooh, or maybe Billy Idol. If they were baby boy goats... and people have worshipped volcanoes... In that case, William Broad.

wolram
Jun10-05, 08:56 AM
point to Henry Faulds not this way.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 08:59 AM
It keeps changing, and keeps getting longer, and is used for human entertainment all around the world. What is it? :tongue:
matthyaioyuaieuoaaouw's name.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 09:01 AM
point to Henry Faulds not this way.Is this a clue? Fingerprint?

wolram
Jun10-05, 09:03 AM
Is this a clue? Fingerprint?
A clue yes, finger print no.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 09:05 AM
Point to him not with your finger? :rofl:

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 09:07 AM
BTW, a fingerprint is usually a clue. :tongue2:

wolram
Jun10-05, 09:31 AM
Hint, blood.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 09:41 AM
Point to him not with a bloody finger? :rolleyes: Yeah, I've got nothing.

wolram
Jun10-05, 09:44 AM
Another unique feature.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 09:45 AM
DNA............

wolram
Jun10-05, 10:04 AM
DNA............

nope

thats two out of three?

wolram
Jun10-05, 10:09 AM
Flower? maybe

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 10:18 AM
two out of three- RNA...
flower- you are mean.
I will think.

toe, nose, petal, root, stem, leaf, pollen, stamen, filament, anther, a kind of flower?

wolram
Jun10-05, 10:19 AM
A way i input a picture to PC

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 10:22 AM
scan... okay... thinking.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 10:26 AM
retinal scan?

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 10:27 AM
But how does that work with the first clue or flowers or blood? I really don't get the first clue if it isn't something to do with fingers or prints...
Or maybe with him not getting credit? I don't get the clues together. :confused:

Oh, flower could be iris...

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 10:29 AM
Point to fingerprints, not to retinal scans. I don't know what that might mean.

wolram
Jun10-05, 10:29 AM
retinal scan?

cuddly toy for zooby

wolram
Jun10-05, 10:31 AM
But how does that work with the first clue or flowers or blood? I really don't get the first clue if it isn't something to do with fingers or prints...

the first clue was to point you in the direction of identification.

Do you think it a crap clue?

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 10:34 AM
the first clue was to point you in the direction of identification.

Do you think it a crap clue?No, I'm just complaining. Mostly about my not guessing it. It was a fine clue. :smile:

wolram
Jun10-05, 10:36 AM
But how does that work with the first clue or flowers or blood? I really don't get the first clue if it isn't something to do with fingers or prints...
Or maybe with him not getting credit? I don't get the clues together. :confused:

Oh, flower could be iris...

Flower IRIS

Blood VEINS in eye

wolram
Jun10-05, 10:38 AM
So whats next zoobyshoe?

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 10:43 AM
the first clue was to point you in the direction of identification.

Do you think it a crap clue?
If you plug in the substitute words, you get:

Point to fingerprints, not to retinal scans.

This leads us to believe there's yet another step, when, apparently there isn't.

Also, the way you wrote it with no punctuation, suggests HonestRoseWater's first idea, which is that it is an instruction not to point to Foulds in a certain way. I thought for a while this meant the answer had to take the form Do not point to fould's as a charlatan or as a failure or whatever way it turned out to be.

Then, it occured to me you meant "Point to Foulds, not this way." (notice the comma) meaning not in some other direction.

So, yeah, alot of dead ends in the clue that we couldn't have overcome without your promptings.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 10:45 AM
So whats next zoobyshoe?

He went looking for iron, but found cement.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 11:14 AM
Just to get it out of the way- Joseph Aspdin.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 11:41 AM
Just to get it out of the way- Joseph Aspdin.
Not who I was looking for. Does this person fit the clue as well?

Danger
Jun10-05, 11:53 AM
He went looking for iron, but found cement.
Jimmy Hoffa?

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 12:01 PM
Jimmy Hoffa?
Incorrect!

wolram
Jun10-05, 12:30 PM
This is driving me nuts as its been on tv and i can not remember, but it was
in the US.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 12:45 PM
Not who I was looking for. Does this person fit the clue as well?Not sure about the iron part- he patented Portland Cement. I figured it was too easy but wanted to be sure.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 12:46 PM
Jimmy Hoffa? :rofl: An A for creativity.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 12:50 PM
This is driving me nuts as its been on tv and i can not remember, but it was
in the US.Was it an explorer, archaeologist, inventor? What other profession could it be?

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 12:51 PM
This is driving me nuts as its been on tv and i can not remember, but it was
in the US.
Yes! It was in the US.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 12:54 PM
Not sure about the iron part- he patented Portland Cement. I figured it was too easy but wanted to be sure.
The iron part is important to the story. This is an obscure chapter is the life of an anything-but-obscure man. His quest for a new source of iron lasted nearly 20 years.

wolram
Jun10-05, 12:57 PM
Was it an explorer, archaeologist, inventor? What other profession could it be?
Im still reeling from that slap by Zooby, so dont listen to me im punch drunk. :smile:

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 01:05 PM
Im still reeling from that slap by Zooby, so dont listen to me im punch drunk. :smile:
I believe the British may have a completely different sence of etiquette than we do. I never have any idea when I'm overstepping British standards for this. Talking to Brewnog I sometimes suddenly realize I've said something that would be taken as insensitively expressed over there while no one here would blink an eye.

wolram
Jun10-05, 02:07 PM
I believe the British may have a completely different sence of etiquette than we do. I never have any idea when I'm overstepping British standards for this. Talking to Brewnog I sometimes suddenly realize I've said something that would be taken as insensitively expressed over there while no one here would blink an eye.
Its our british humour, to make someone think we have been hurt, its sort
of the opposite to the stiff upper lip old boy thing, so don't worry Zooby we
are a thick skinned race, the only thing that really offends us is if you don't
stick your little finger out when drinking tea.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 02:24 PM
Right, then! Let us carry on.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 02:27 PM
Christopher Columbus? This is mainly a wild guess.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 02:30 PM
Christopher Columbus? This is mainly a wild guess.
Not Columbus. This person went looking for iron. He happened to find a source of cement, and decided to make use of it. He continued to work on the iron project, as well. He did not create or patent cement, just found alot of it.

wolram
Jun10-05, 02:33 PM
I think he had an unusual ship named after him

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 02:34 PM
Not Columbus. This person went looking for iron. He happened to find a source of cement, and decided to make use of it. He continued to work on the iron project, as well. He did not create or patent cement, just found alot of it.Yes, but I'm not sure if it was iron for building or eating. I'm not asking, I'm just saying.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 02:35 PM
I think he had an unusual ship named after him
He was famous enough for that to have happened, but I'm not aware that it ever did. I can't confirm or deny this guess.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 02:35 PM
The only other explorer of Americas I can think of is Ponce de Leon. Maybe more in a minute.
Okay, it says Vazquez settled the Carolinas and I know Noth Carolina limestone was used a lot in construction??

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 02:36 PM
Yes, but I'm not sure if it was iron for building or eating. I'm not asking, I'm just saying.
Iron for industry: he wanted masses of it.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 02:38 PM
The only other explorer of Americas I can think of is Ponce de Leon. Maybe more in a minute.
You have invented this clue yourself. I never said or implied he was an explorer of the Americas. All I said is he went looking for iron.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 02:41 PM
You have invented this clue yourself. I never said or implied he was an explorer of the Americas. All I said is he went looking for iron.I know, I'm just thinking out loud. Maybe I should stop that. But you did say it was in the US?

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 02:44 PM
I know, I'm just thinking out loud. Maybe I should stop that. But you did say it was in the US?
Absolutely. And he was a US Citizen from birth.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 02:49 PM
Meriwether Lewis?

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 02:50 PM
Meriwether Lewis?
Much too early in US history. No.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 02:53 PM
Henry Ford?

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 02:53 PM
I think he had an unusual ship named after him
I just googled this and there is, in fact, a non-standard seagoing vessel named after this man.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 02:54 PM
Henry Ford?
No, but you're much closer to the target dates. Look a little earlier in time.

wolram
Jun10-05, 03:00 PM
D.O.S, i dont want to answer this as i havent a good clue.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 03:02 PM
D.O.S, i dont want to answer this as i havent a good clue.
Just write down the initial of his first name. That will be a clue for Honestrosewater, and will probably confirm to me you know the answer.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 03:08 PM
Maybe a Civil War era vessel? :redface:

wolram
Jun10-05, 03:12 PM
Just write down the initial of his first name. That will be a clue for Honestrosewater, and will probably confirm to me you know the answer.
If i am right it is D

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 03:13 PM
Maybe a Civil War era vessel? :redface:
No, the vessel wasn't commissioned till long after he died.

He is so famous, you'll be amazed when you find out. This cement/ iron thing that he persued for 20 years was basically a money pit and financial failure for him. Precious few people know of this chapter of his life.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 03:13 PM
If i am right it is D
No.......Sorry! You have had the wrong person in mind.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 03:16 PM
Lincoln? Eh, I have given up the not thinking out loud thing. :tongue2:

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 03:17 PM
Lincoln? Eh, I have given up the not thinking out loud thing. :tongue2:
No. You're back to being too early.

wolram
Jun10-05, 03:18 PM
david o saylor was my guess

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 03:25 PM
Thomas Edison, Theodore Roosevelt

Little note: Edison's submarine had a piano on it. Hah.

zoobyshoe
Jun10-05, 03:26 PM
Thomas Edison,
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 03:28 PM
See, if you just guess enough... :rofl:

JamesU
Jun10-05, 03:34 PM
I think people should have a clue ready when they answer the question

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 03:36 PM
Moving from one hill to another, he became his own master.

JamesU
Jun10-05, 03:43 PM
does it have anything to do with faries? because that's what google told me

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 03:44 PM
does it have anything to do with faries? because that's what google told meUm, no..........

JamesU
Jun10-05, 03:48 PM
Um, no..........
hmm... hints...?

matthyaouw
Jun10-05, 03:48 PM
Moving from one hill to another, he became his own master.

Are these hills the hills of Rome? Just a random guess.

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 03:51 PM
Are these hills the hills of Rome? Just a random guess.No. In the US. The hills aren't the biggest clue, more like confirmation.

JamesU
Jun10-05, 03:52 PM
hills in the us...

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 03:59 PM
hills in the us...The hills are in the US....

JamesU
Jun10-05, 04:28 PM
I'm going to abandon this thread for now and go to the "where is it?" thread

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 05:33 PM
Polaris.....

JamesU
Jun10-05, 05:35 PM
the north star

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 05:37 PM
the north starCorrect. That's a clue.

JamesU
Jun10-05, 05:40 PM
wait, the north star is a clue?

Evo
Jun10-05, 05:41 PM
Just popped in, honestrosewater, love the "what was its". I'm learning a lot from this thread. Thank you wolram for starting it!

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 06:04 PM
Do I have to repeat everything? :tongue2: Yes, north star is a clue.

I love it too. Does Evo have a guess?

JamesU
Jun10-05, 06:07 PM
the northern lights...? :biggrin:

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 06:13 PM
the northern lights...? :biggrin:No.

Moving from one hill to another, he became his own master.
the north star

Evo
Jun10-05, 06:38 PM
Do I have to repeat everything? :tongue2: Yes, north star is a clue.

I love it too. Does Evo have a guess?Evo has a headache. Evo has had a headache for several weeks and is getting worried. :cry: I will have to sit on the sidelines and watch. Unless someone has some morphine they can slip into my computer. :confused:

Ivan Seeking
Jun10-05, 06:43 PM
Evo has a headache. Evo has had a headache for several weeks and is getting worried. :cry: I will have to sit on the sidelines and watch. Unless someone has some morphine they can slip into my computer. :confused:

:frown: Could it be allergies? That's how the grass pollens affect me. And the strange part is that after 15 years, now Tsu is having problems as well.

Evo
Jun10-05, 06:48 PM
:frown: Could it be allergies? That's how the grass pollens affect me. And the strange part is that after 15 years, now Tsu is having problems as well.Part is allergies, part stress, part "old Evo is dying". :cry:

honestrosewater
Jun10-05, 07:41 PM
Okay, I have to leave. Here are what the clues meant:
two hills: Holmes Hill Farms and Cedar Hill.
Became his own master: He was born a slave, escaped, and helped to abolish slavery in the US.
"The North Star" was the original name of his newspaper.
Frederick Douglass.

JamesU
Jun10-05, 08:32 PM
K...I'm going to go now...ummmm...Evo, you can go...

Ivan Seeking
Jun11-05, 02:17 AM
Although the original from 1927 was lost, the 1928 version survived. It was brought back to life in the eighties with a technology beyond its time.

Mercury
Ant
Hell
Bable

zoobyshoe
Jun11-05, 02:23 AM
Mercury
Ant
Hell
Bable
Are these clues to the thing, or to the "technology beyond it's time?"

Ivan Seeking
Jun11-05, 02:29 AM
Those are key words associated with the thing.

Danger
Jun11-05, 02:30 AM
:rofl: An A for creativity.
Thanks, Rosie. I was starting to think that nobody was gonna get that.

zoobyshoe
Jun11-05, 02:46 AM
Those are key words associated with the thing.
Mercury? As in messenger?

Ant? As in underground worker?

Hel? As in subterranean punishment? Or a name?

Babel? As in a great human project gone awry?

zoobyshoe
Jun11-05, 02:47 AM
Thanks, Rosie. I was starting to think that nobody was gonna get that.
What did it mean?

Ivan Seeking
Jun11-05, 02:52 AM
Mercury? As in messenger?
No

Ant? As in underground worker?
No

Hel? As in subterranean punishment? Or a name?
Holy cow, :surprised I should have said Hel, I think.

Babel? As in a great human project gone awry?
yes

zoobyshoe
Jun11-05, 02:58 AM
Mercury? As in messenger?
No

Ant? As in underground worker?
No

Hel? As in subterranean punishment? Or a name?
Holy cow, :surprised I should have said Hel, I think.

Babel? As in a great human project gone awry?
yes
All very biblical. But not Adam and Eve. Instead, Adam and Fred, No?

Ivan Seeking
Jun11-05, 02:59 AM
Another clue

Robot

zoobyshoe
Jun11-05, 03:04 AM
Another clue

Robot
Check my last post. I already know the anser.

Ivan Seeking
Jun11-05, 03:05 AM
Check my last post. I already know the anser.


:rofl: Yep, sorry, I missed that.

Danger
Jun11-05, 03:09 AM
What did it mean?
Jimmy Hoffa... Teamsters boss... UAW... 'Detroit Iron'... ends up in a cement overcoat...

zoobyshoe
Jun11-05, 03:09 AM
:rofl: Yep, sorry, I missed that.
I knew as soon as I saw the dates. You've also mentioned this a couple times as a "favorite". For reasons that should be clear, the clues took some research.

Ivan Seeking
Jun11-05, 03:13 AM
So the answer is the movie Metropolis. The soundtrack includes songs by Freddy Mercury and Adam Ant, Bable is a symbol in the movie and a song title from the modern soundtrack, and Hel was the name of the lost love of the mad scientist. This was the first time that the concept of a robot was used in a movie.

zoobyshoe
Jun11-05, 03:14 AM
Jimmy Hoffa... Teamsters boss... UAW... 'Detroit Iron'... ends up in a cement overcoat...
"Found cement" makes sence, but I don't see "Went looking for iron" really applying.

zoobyshoe
Jun11-05, 03:15 AM
So the answer is the movie Metropolis. The soundtrack includes songs by Freddy Mercury and Adam Ant, Bable is a symbol in the movie and a song title from the modern soundtrack, and Hel was the name of the lost love of the mad scientist. This was the first time that the concept of a robot was used in a movie.
Correct!!! Your turn.

Danger
Jun11-05, 03:17 AM
So the answer is the movie Metropolis. The soundtrack includes songs by Freddy Mercury and Adam Ant, Bable is a symbol in the movie and a song title from the modern soundtrack, and Hel was the name of the lost love of the mad scientist. This was the first time that the concept of a robot was used in a movie.
What the hell you talkin' about, Willis? Freddy and Adam's parents weren't born when that movie came out, and it was a silent anyhow. 1923 or some such.

Ivan Seeking
Jun11-05, 03:17 AM
Correct!!! Your turn.

I'm sorry, was this going to be our little secret? :rofl:

zoobyshoe
Jun11-05, 03:21 AM
I'm sorry, was this going to be our little secret? :rofl:
I didn't want to spring the right answer cause I don't have a good clue ready, but I wanted you to know I had the right answer. Go ahead and post another, I forfeit my turn due to being too lazy to come up with something.

Mk
Jun11-05, 03:50 AM
Wow zooby, I didn't know you were such a great dancer!

zoobyshoe
Jun11-05, 05:55 AM
Wow zooby, I didn't know you were such a great dancer!
What does this mean?

Ivan Seeking
Jun11-05, 08:45 PM
What does this mean?

Is that your question? :biggrin:

If anyone else want to go, please proceed. Otherwise I'll be back with a question shortly, but I can't stick around too long.

Ivan Seeking
Jun11-05, 10:13 PM
Well, I got caught up watching a TV show and now I have to go.

What was it?

Danger
Jun11-05, 11:00 PM
"Found cement" makes sence, but I don't see "Went looking for iron" really applying.
In the street-rod scene, at least up here, US-built cars are called 'Detroit Iron'. In 1969, the Teamsters under Jimmy Hoffa took over the United Automobile Workers. (They called it a 'merger', but you know how power-mad Hoffa was...)

honestrosewater
Jun12-05, 12:26 AM
What does this mean?Function: pronoun
Inflected Form(s): plural these /'[th]Ez/
Etymology: Middle English, pronoun & adjective, from Old English thes (masculine), this (neuter); akin to Old High German dese this, Old English thæt that
1 a (1) : the person, thing, or idea that is present or near in place, time, or thought or that has just been mentioned <these are my hands> (2) : what is stated in the following phrase, clause, or discourse <I can only say this: it wasn't here yesterday> b : this time or place <expected to return before this>
2 a : the one nearer or more immediately under observation or discussion <this is iron and that is tin> b : the one more recently referred to

Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): plural these
1 a : being the person, thing, or idea that is present or near in place, time, or thought or that has just been mentioned <this book is mine> <early this morning> b : constituting the immediately following part of the present discourse c : constituting the immediate past or future <friends all these years> d : being one not previously mentioned -- used especially in narrative to give a sense of immediacy or vividness <then this guy runs in>
2 : being the nearer at hand or more immediately under observation or discussion <this car or that one>

Function: adverb
: to the degree or extent indicated by something in the immediate context or situation <didn't expect to wait this long>
____

A villain in a fairytale, there are four in the neighborhood.

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 02:15 AM
This may have contributed fundamentally to the evolution of Quantum Mechanics. We will never know for sure to what extent this is true, but it does seem that the cat is out of the bag.


Coupled
time-dependence
Snow
Wave

honestrosewater
Jun12-05, 02:22 AM
Was it a thought experiment?

dextercioby
Jun12-05, 02:25 AM
Solvay Meeting,1927?

Daniel.

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:13 AM
No, and no.

Brrrrrrrrr...
Bed

Mk
Jun12-05, 04:36 AM
Was the cat out of the bag supposed to just be funny, or is it clueish?

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 02:12 PM
It was a clue with two meanings.

Next clue: Inspiration

wolram
Jun12-05, 02:17 PM
Schrödinger's cat

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 02:20 PM
No, but you're on the right track.

Alps

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 02:56 PM
Okay and here are the final clues
Christmas and New Year's, 1925-26.

Gokul43201
Jun12-05, 03:03 PM
Going with just one clue on this (inspiration) : Is it Thermionic Emission, noticed by Edison ?

Danger
Jun12-05, 03:04 PM
Okay and here are the final clues
Christmas and New Year's, 1925-26.
The dates mean nothing to me, but I was thinking of the time-dependent version Schrodinger's wave equation.

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:07 PM
Edit: Going with just one clue on this (inspiration) : Is it Thermionic Emission, noticed by Edison ?

No, the inspiration was of a different nature.

Couple

wolram
Jun12-05, 03:07 PM
The Gamma-Ray Microscope

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:08 PM
The Gamma-Ray Microscope

No

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:10 PM
The dates mean nothing to me, but I was thinking of the time-dependent version Schrodinger's wave equation.


That was the effect. This preceeded Schrodinger's famous paper.

Edit: To say that was the effect is not really accurate. I should have said that his paper followed. A direct cause and effect determination is not possible. But many suspect...

Danger
Jun12-05, 03:14 PM
This preceeded Schrodinger's famous paper.
I'm afraid that's it for me, then. I don't know much QM, and even less of the history surrounding it. :frown:

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:16 PM
I'm afraid that's it for me, then. I don't know much QM, and even less of the history surrounding it.

You will like the answer.

Danger
Jun12-05, 03:21 PM
You will like the answer.
Tease... :tongue:

mattmns
Jun12-05, 03:23 PM
Schrödinger equation ?

wolram
Jun12-05, 03:23 PM
Hund and mulliken on diatomic molecules

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:24 PM
Yes
No
No

hypatia
Jun12-05, 03:28 PM
I was thinking along the lines of the frequency modulation in radio waves..lol so I must be wayyyy off.

mattmns
Jun12-05, 03:31 PM
Wolram can have this turn, I got my answer from his idea.

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:31 PM
I was thinking along the lines of the frequency modulation in radio waves..lol so I must be wayyyy off.

No, not FM.

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:32 PM
Wolram can have this turn, I got my answer from his idea.

that yes was for Danger, not you. :smile:

...he called me a tease.

Danger
Jun12-05, 03:32 PM
de Broglie's matter waves?

mattmns
Jun12-05, 03:32 PM
Ohh lol, sorry about that!

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:34 PM
de Broglie's matter waves?

No.

Okay, I came up with an abstract clue:

In the sense of this "what was it", in order to see how we got the cat, you first have to think like a dog.

Gokul43201
Jun12-05, 03:37 PM
Whatever you do (Ivan), don't give the answer away. I'm going to give this a serious shot when
I'm freer, if it's still alive then.

Danger
Jun12-05, 03:38 PM
you first have to think like a dog.
Jasper Krenshaw's 'butt-sniffing waves'?

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:42 PM
Whatever you do (Ivan), don't give the answer away. I'm going to give this a serious shot when
I'm freer, if it's still alive then.


Okay. This is a good one. I'll hold out for a correct answer.

No, not butt-sniffing waves, but I almost used that one! :biggrin:

hypatia
Jun12-05, 03:45 PM
lol@not butt-sniffing waves

dang weather sirens are on.....but I dont want to shut this down

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 03:49 PM
dang weather sirens are on.....but I dont want to shut this down

:surprised

Ummm, I promise not to delete anything. Please take shelter now.

wolram
Jun12-05, 04:22 PM
Wolram can have this turn, I got my answer from his idea.
How nobel.

A place in the uk that sounds like a star wars character, and a void

best i can come up with at short notice.

brewnog
Jun12-05, 05:19 PM
Clue me again wolram!

Ivan Seeking
Jun12-05, 06:04 PM
I have to leave for a while, so here are all of the clues given for my question thus far.

This may have contributed fundamentally to the evolution of Quantum Mechanics. We will never know for sure to what extent this is true, but it does seem that the cat is out of the bag.

Keywords:
Coupled
time-dependence
Snow
Wave
Brrrrrrrrr...
Bed
Inspiration
Alps
Christmas and New Year's, 1925-26.
Couple

This preceeded Schrodinger's famous paper. To say that his paper was the effect of this is not really accurate. I should have said that his paper followed. A direct cause and effect determination is not possible. But many suspect...

an abstract clue: In the sense of this "what was it", in order to see how we got the cat, you first have to think like a dog.

Mk
Jun13-05, 12:07 AM
Teh Bohr Festival?

Mk
Jun13-05, 12:12 AM
Erwin Schrodinger, one of the greatest physicists of the twentieth century, used sexual activity as an arousal device for inventing "thought experiments." Schrodinger took his mistress and ascended into the Alps over Christmas and New Year's, 1925-26, to think about a wave equation for matter and, reputedly, to spend all his time in bed. When he descended again in early January, he had developed wave mechanics, which, together with Werner Heisenberg's matrix mechanics, became the foundation of modern quantum theory. Schrodinger's paper on this subject is the most cited scientific paper of the twentieth century. He had apparently combined the physiological with emotional, and harnessed a brainstorm of heightened awareness. Schrodinger also wrote a book called What is Life?, a speculation on the physical basis of biology that is widely regarded among scientists as one of the most influential books of the century.

Mk
Jun13-05, 12:14 AM
:rofl:
How'd we get the cat? Think dog! :rofl:

Gokul43201
Jun13-05, 12:41 AM
Nice, Mk. Guess it's your turn now ...

Mk
Jun13-05, 12:57 AM
Someone take it, I'm leaving for a while.

Gokul43201
Jun13-05, 01:02 AM
There's Wolram's hint :


A place in the uk that sounds like a star wars character, and a void

Ivan Seeking
Jun13-05, 01:24 AM
A coupled couple. :biggrin: And I'll bet you were thinking of regular ole coupled oscillators.

Leon Lederman of Fermilab talks about this in one of The Discovery Channel science programs.

wolram
Jun13-05, 12:37 PM
Clue me again wolram!

This place has a kitchen, and a canal.

wolram
Jun14-05, 11:02 AM
A watery axe.

Danger
Jun14-05, 02:01 PM
A watery axe.
Is that a clue or an obscure answer? If a clue, the only thing that I can think of is a 'Jet Axe' (I think that's the brand name). It uses a high-explosive shaped charge to blast a water jet for cutting walls and such-like where straight explosives wouldn't be safe. Mostly used by fire rescue squads.

arildno
Jun14-05, 02:04 PM
You are totally wrong, Danger; it is a reference to the place name Soggy Hatchet, a hill-billy town in Arkansas.

Danger
Jun14-05, 02:06 PM
it is a reference to the place name Soggy Hatchet, a hill-billy town in Arkansas.
Dang! I knew that I shouldn't have slept so much during Geography class.

arildno
Jun14-05, 02:10 PM
Dang! I knew that I shouldn't have slept so much during Geography class.
In case you didn't know, the leading family in Soggy Hatchet is the Hogfnorts, with the Dungbottoms as a close second.

Danger
Jun14-05, 02:14 PM
In case you didn't know, the leading family in Soggy Hatchet is the Hogfnorts, with the Dungbottoms as a close second.
It's coming back to me now, but not from Geography. It seems to me that the cover blurb on one of my 'Molly Hatchet' albums refers to their home town...

arildno
Jun14-05, 02:24 PM
Yep, Molly was the daughter of Sally and Burt Hogfnort. She had to run away when her parents found out she carried on with Terry Dungbottom. A sad story, really..

wolram
Jun15-05, 04:47 AM
Its a place in the uk.
it has a kitchen.
it has a canal.
it has a parlour.
it sounds like a star wars character and a void.
watery axe.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 05:55 AM
Hm, do you pronounce Bath like Hoth? Oh, how 'bout Leek?

wolram
Jun15-05, 05:59 AM
Hm, do you pronounce Bath like Hoth?

posh people say BAR th
the rest of us say bAth

wolram
Jun15-05, 06:03 AM
Hm, do you pronounce Bath like Hoth? Oh, how 'bout Leek?
Leek, the vegatable is same as ,"my bath has a leak".

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 06:25 AM
Leek, the vegatable is same as ,"my bath has a leak".
Hehe- I was guessing Leek- the town in Staffordshire, England.

wolram
Jun15-05, 06:29 AM
Hehe- I was guessing Leek- the town in Staffordshire, England.
No not a town or city, the star wars character is the best start, remeber
we have some strange place names here.
then just add the void.

brewnog
Jun15-05, 06:44 AM
Give us a clue about the Star Wars character....

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 06:45 AM
No not a town or city, the star wars character is the best start, remeber
we have some strange place names here.
then just add the void.Bah, do you know how many Star Wars characters there are?! Is it a main character? A good guy? bad guy? human? in which episode? anything to narrow the list?

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 06:49 AM
Llantilio Crosseny.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 06:51 AM
anything to narrow the list?It apparently is a castle. Here is a complete list of UK castles:
castlexplorer.co.uk/list.php (http://www.castlexplorer.co.uk/list.php)

wolram
Jun15-05, 06:52 AM
He is one of if not the biggest stars

wolram
Jun15-05, 06:54 AM
It apparently is a castle. Here is a complete list of UK castles:
castlexplorer.co.uk/list.php (http://www.castlexplorer.co.uk/list.php)

not a castle, no one built this.

arildno
Jun15-05, 06:55 AM
Lukabyss?
Anakinnothingness?
Hanvoid?

Somehow, none of them seems probable..

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 06:55 AM
Dartmouth.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 06:56 AM
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~gleeclub/ItalyPics/canal.jpg
Edit: Oops. That's a picture of Venice, Italy. And it is linked from the wrong Dartmouth. I was very confused. Sorry.

brewnog
Jun15-05, 06:58 AM
Hits, that picture is V.nice!

wolram
Jun15-05, 06:58 AM
Lukabyss?
Anakinnothingness?
Hanvoid?

Somehow, none of them seems probable..

right idea though

arildno
Jun15-05, 07:00 AM
"Han" is the first syllable, I think..
Hanabys?

wolram
Jun15-05, 07:01 AM
Dartmouth.

no not as big as dartmouth

wolram
Jun15-05, 07:02 AM
"Han" is the first syllable, I think..
Hanabys?
not Han or abys

Teddy bear?

wolram
Jun15-05, 07:08 AM
This is a, "cheesy", area

arildno
Jun15-05, 07:08 AM
Chewie??
Ewok????.:yuck:

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 07:09 AM
OK. It's Chewy, then.

wolram
Jun15-05, 07:10 AM
Chewie??
Ewok????.:yuck:

what is chewie?

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 07:10 AM
Teddington.

arildno
Jun15-05, 07:10 AM
what is chewie?
Chewbacca?

wolram
Jun15-05, 07:12 AM
Teddington.

no it is not a town or city, or even man made.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 07:45 AM
Is it Loch or Lake something? Loch Ness?

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 07:57 AM
Loch Craggie? :rofl: Oh, right, cheesy- Loch Hope?

brewnog
Jun15-05, 08:10 AM
Cheddar Gorge?

wolram
Jun15-05, 08:13 AM
Is it Loch or Lake something? Loch Ness?
not a loch or lake.

wolram
Jun15-05, 08:17 AM
Cheddar Gorge?
right area

parlour
kitchen
canal
watery axe
den
teddy bear like SWs character
and a void.

wolram
Jun15-05, 08:34 AM
Chewbacca?

and he is a ?

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 08:35 AM
and he is a ?Walking carpet.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 08:36 AM
Bah, I found a Warwick canal. Warwick?

arildno
Jun15-05, 08:37 AM
He is a wookie.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 08:37 AM
The Cheddar Gorge, Wookey Hole and caves.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 08:37 AM
Wookie hole? OMG.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 08:38 AM
Ah, we tied! Well, I guess I misspelled it. :frown:

BTW, Chewie isn't a main character! And Ewoks are the teddy bears! :grumpy:

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 08:40 AM
I think it goes back to Olde or Middle English and therefore has numerous spellings, all of which are correct.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 08:42 AM
wookey.co.uk/caves.htm (http://www.wookey.co.uk/caves.htm)

Somerset, in the South of England, is a land of mysteries. Here at Wookey Hole, where a river flows out of the underworld, pagan and Christian legends intermingle.

Here, too are mysteries of man himself. How did the early cavemen, who inhabited these caves, really live from day to day? And what makes a modern diver explore the caverns beyond the sunlight?


Even the earliest men who lived in the valley of Wookey Hole 50,000 years ago, hunting bear and rhinoceros with stone weapons, must have been in awe of the great caves for they had already existed for millions of years.

When, much later, the Celtic peoples of the Iron Age were moving into Britain, they found the caves a safe and even comfortable place to live - inside, the temperature is a constant 11° Celsius. Yet by the 15th century only bones, broken pottery and legends remained.

Then, in 1914 the archaeologist Herbert Balch, having completed a two year excavation of the caves, published his findings, and the age of real exploration had begun...

Visitors came to wonder at the secret river and its encrusted caverns. Perhaps Coleridge was inspired to write the lines: "Where Alph, the sacred river, ran,
Through caverns measureless to man"

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 08:42 AM
I think it goes back to Olde or Middle English and therefore has numerous spellings, all of which are correct.Well, yours is listed first...

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 08:46 AM
I guess I win, then. The "watery axe" is the River Axe.
google.com/search?q=%22river+axe%22+wookey (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22river+axe%22+wookey)

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 08:49 AM
The kitchen is The Witch’s Kitchen. The parlour is The Witch’s Parlour.
wookey.co.uk/parlour.htm (http://www.wookey.co.uk/parlour.htm)

wolram
Jun15-05, 08:51 AM
I guess I win, then. The "watery axe" is the River Axe.
google.com/search?q=%22river+axe%22+wookey (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22river+axe%22+wookey)

well done. :smile:

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 08:53 AM
Interestingly, there is also a "Chew Magna" near the Cheddar Caves.

wolram
Jun15-05, 08:54 AM
Ah, we tied! Well, I guess I misspelled it. :frown:

BTW, Chewie isn't a main character! And Ewoks are the teddy bears! :grumpy:

I cant make things to easy for intellects as big as yours :smile:

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 08:54 AM
well done. :smile:Sort of. I'm still not clear on the relationship between the Cheddar Caves and Wookey Hole. I suppose that Wookey Hole is the answer, though.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 08:57 AM
Cheddar Caves is a separate attraction from Wookey Hole. It is about 5 miles away. The clue was "cheesy area," so that refers to the fact that Cheddar Caves is nearby.

wolram
Jun15-05, 08:59 AM
Interestingly, there is also a "Chew Magna" near the Cheddar Caves.
I live in Bishops Itchington, there are places caled upper slaughter, upper
piddle, lower piddle, the list goes on, place names are a study.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:01 AM
And I suppose that fact inspired George Lucas to borrow some of your names.

wolram
Jun15-05, 09:05 AM
And I suppose that fact inspired George Lucas to borrow some of your names.

Its your party hitssquad :smile:

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:06 AM
Here is an easy one:

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue7

wolram
Jun15-05, 09:08 AM
yellowstone.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:10 AM
No. Here is another pic.

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue8

wolram
Jun15-05, 09:16 AM
Im not to good with volcanos, but this one must have been inactive for
a long time.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 09:18 AM
I cant make things to easy for intellects as big as yours :smile:Okay, I forgive you. :biggrin:

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 09:21 AM
Iceland?........

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:22 AM
No, Rose. Not Iceland.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:23 AM
This volcano erupted in the twentieth century.

Danger
Jun15-05, 09:26 AM
Okay, I forgive you. :biggrin:
Not me. :tongue:
That was a pretty dirty one for those of us who refuse to Google answers. By the way, the Chewie version of the name is spelled 'Wookiee'. :tongue:


Oh yeah, one more just on principle: :tongue:

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 09:26 AM
Is it in Alaska?

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:27 AM
Same place:

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue9

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:28 AM
Not in Alaska.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:30 AM
This place has a special name that is not the same as the name of the volcano it is on. To say this name, you have to cuss.

wolram
Jun15-05, 09:40 AM
Not me. :tongue:
That was a pretty dirty one for those of us who refuse to Google answers. By the way, the Chewie version of the name is spelled 'Wookiee'. :tongue:


Oh yeah, one more just on principle: :tongue:

I did not know that nongooglers existed :surprised
i can not imagine life without my google, i would have nothing left to
play with :biggrin:

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:41 AM
It snows there, too.

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue10

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:49 AM
Nice shot from higher ground:

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue11

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:51 AM
The name of the Volcano this place is on is similar to the name of a famous television dog.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 09:55 AM
Lassen Peak?

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 09:59 AM
Or Lassen Park. I found the same picture. :) Bump@ss Hell

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 09:59 AM
But what is the specific name of this place, Rose?

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 10:01 AM
Who discovered this place, Rose? What happened to him after he accidentally stepped into a boiling mud pit?

Danger
Jun15-05, 10:03 AM
i would have nothing left to
play with :biggrin:
Not a Chuck Berry fan, huh? :biggrin:

And :tongue: again, just because.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 10:03 AM
Yes. Bumpass Hell -- named after Kendall Vanhook Bumpass "who discovered it and lost his leg as a result of burns suffered when stepping into a thermal pool."
http://www.cyberhikes.com/HLVP0114.HTM

It's your party, Rose.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 10:03 AM
Who discovered this place, Rose? What happened to him after he accidentally stepped into a boiling mud pit?Kendall Vanhook Bumpass. He lost a leg. :frown:

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 10:05 AM
Kendall Vanhook Bumpass. He lost a leg. :frown:As the sign says, watch your children and stay on the boardwalk.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 10:08 AM
Okay, I'll think of one for the purists.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 10:09 AM
Mt. Lassen erupted in 1915. In 1916 it was made a national park.
shannontech.com/ParkVision/Lassen/Lassen.html (http://www.shannontech.com/ParkVision/Lassen/Lassen.html)

--
Lassen Volcanic National Park, located in north central California at the southern end of the Cascade mountain range, is the only national park containing a volcano which has erupted in the twentieth century.
--

Until St. Helens in 1980, it had remained the most recent eruption in the United States.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 10:19 AM
gray baseball
southern french

wolram
Jun15-05, 10:32 AM
gray baseball
southern french
I can not think where to start with this one, a base ball stadium in new
orleans?

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 10:35 AM
This is a word association clue for the non-googlers. I don't think google will help much, and it's all pretty much common knowledge anyway. Here's another:

gray baseball
southern french
holmes learning

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 11:11 AM
holmes learningElementary.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 11:24 AM
I can not think where to start with this one, a base ball stadium in new orleans?Southern French is creole.

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 12:23 PM
Sorry, I forgot about this. :redface:
Nothing right or close so far. You're connecting the clues in the wrong way. Here's another:

gray baseball
southern french
holmes learning
liberty arch

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 02:20 PM
No one? Not even guesses? Ugh, here's more:

gray baseball
southern french
holmes learning
liberty arch
ding bend

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 02:34 PM
Sagrada Familia?

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 02:36 PM
Sagrada Familia?Correct!!!! Okay, no, and that's not funny. :grumpy: Okay, a little funny. :rolleyes:

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 03:26 PM
Okay, hitssquad should definitely get this.
There was a big book about IQ by the same name.
It's two words.
The first word: Elisha Gray, southern [blank], Sherlock Holmes, The Liberty [blank], Ding!
The second word: something thrown in baseball, French [blank], learning [blank], arch, bend.

brewnog
Jun15-05, 03:28 PM
A bell curve!

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 03:36 PM
Three cheers for brewnog!
Was that really so difficult?

Elisha Gray- vs. Alexander Graham Bell
southern belle
Sherlock Holmes- Watson, Bell's assistant
The Liberty Bell
Ding!- a sound a bell makes.

something thrown in baseball- curve ball
French curve
learning curve
arch, bend- synonyms or things that curve.

Okay, I'm free. bye bye now.

brewnog
Jun15-05, 03:48 PM
Ok, this one will be easy for many of you.

http://personalpages.umist.ac.uk/student/E.Smith-2/guess8.jpg

If this is too easy for you, keep quiet about what it is, and let the others have a go!

honestrosewater
Jun15-05, 04:30 PM
Okay, no google. Some kind of clamp? Or for shaping? Or for making holes? It's used with hard materials, metals? Not with wood? Just thinking aloud...

brewnog
Jun15-05, 04:40 PM
It's not used with wood.

It's not used for clamping, shaping or making holes as such.

hitssquad
Jun15-05, 04:50 PM
Rose, do you need some help? Here:

images.google.com/images?q=thingamabobber (http://images.google.com/images?q=thingamabobber)

brewnog
Jun15-05, 04:51 PM
Rose, do you need some help? Here:

images.google.com/images?q=thingamabobber (http://images.google.com/images?q=thingamabobber)

That's just cruel...

brewnog
Jun15-05, 07:03 PM
Look at the tip of the bit which would actually do the work. Think about its shape. And wonder why there's a barrel adjuster on it too.

JamesU
Jun15-05, 07:07 PM
is it some sort of screwdriver?

brewnog
Jun15-05, 07:46 PM
is it some sort of screwdriver?

Not as such, but you're not a million miles off.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 03:02 AM
Stand aside everyone, I'm back on the case. :tongue2:
Look at the tip of the bit which would actually do the work. Think about its shape. And wonder why there's a barrel adjuster on it too.I can't see the bit or its tip. Magnifying the image doesn't work. Do you have a picture of the same type of bit?
I am still rather confused about how exactly tapping works, but is this used for tapping?

brewnog
Jun16-05, 07:17 AM
Stand aside everyone, I'm back on the case. :tongue2:
I can't see the bit or its tip. Magnifying the image doesn't work. Do you have a picture of the same type of bit?
I am still rather confused about how exactly tapping works, but is this used for tapping?

No, it's not used for tapping, but I can see what you're getting at.

The 'tip' is smooth and cylindrical, with a flat face. If this were a metal forming tool, you might expect the tip to be sharpened, or shaped in some way. However, it's not. It's just smooth, and cylindrical!

This is the kind of tool a mechanic might use (for cars, but also for motorbikes!), or a cyclist.

This is turning out to be a riveting conversation...

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 07:23 AM
I willl check again, but is that a boring bit?

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 07:42 AM
http://www.gokartsupply.com/img/4899.jpg

A chain rivet tool. Or something like that. I had looked at flaring tools and pop rivet tools...

brewnog
Jun16-05, 09:00 AM
Yep yep, some good work there!

hitssquad
Jun16-05, 10:00 AM
We bicyclists simply call them chain tools or chain breakers. You can see millions of them here if you have a sharp eye:
images.google.com/images?q=bike+tools (http://images.google.com/images?q=bike+tools)

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 11:51 AM
In this land you'll find a crownless king, a wingless wasp, and a stone that just isn't. But they all have one more thing in common.

wolram
Jun16-05, 12:07 PM
Ireland? sounds cooky enough.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 12:14 PM
Ach naw, laddie. :rofl: Or something like that...

The 3 things actually have a lot in common, but the clues are just where they all live and one more rather special thing.

wolram
Jun16-05, 12:23 PM
I know of a stone fish and a king fish so sealand

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 12:51 PM
I know of a stone fish and a king fish so sealandWow, there is a place called Sealand. It's wrong though. Stonefish is correct. Not king fish. I didn't mean the name included 'land'.

The wasp is also a box with no lid. The king is black but not by name.

brewnog
Jun16-05, 12:51 PM
Stonefish, kingfishers and waspfish are all found on the Solomon Isles?

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 12:53 PM
Stonefish, kingfishers and waspfish are all found on the Solomon Isles?Nope. Is there anything special about a stonefish? Something you should maybe know before you step on one???

Other than them being totally wicked-looking- have you seen some of those fish? Yikes.

brewnog
Jun16-05, 12:55 PM
It's got a poisony spikey thing!

So do wasps....

(And kingfish?)

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 12:59 PM
venom, yes. kingfish, still no.

Danger
Jun16-05, 01:02 PM
It's got a poisony spikey thing!
Don't get so technical, dude. We're not all marine biologists here.

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:02 PM
Coral reefs maybe.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:03 PM
So...
A crownless king that is black but not by name.
A wingless wasp that is also a box with no lid.
You have stonefish, which are venomous.
They all live in the same place.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:04 PM
Coral reefs maybe.Um, not no but not yes. Warm.

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:05 PM
Danger, i had a few to many last night, but were you at the bottom of
my garden?

Danger
Jun16-05, 01:08 PM
Danger, i had a few to many last night, but were you at the bottom of
my garden?
I was at the bottom of something, but damned if I can remember what. It's quite possible. (I tipped a couple back myself.)

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:13 PM
Bikini atoll just a guess.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:13 PM
(I tipped a couple back myself.)Did they fall?
Actually, nevermind.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:15 PM
Bikini atoll just a guess.No. You were warmer with just reef. What other kinds of reefs are there? Atolls, fringing, ...

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:17 PM
Barrier reef, is that how you spell barrier?

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:18 PM
Barrier reef, is that how you spell barrier?Yes and yes.
Any barrier reefs spring to mind? The first one should do...

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:21 PM
Yes and yes.
Any barrier reefs spring to mind?

No not much ever springs in my mind, all my guesses have come from watching
the discovery channel.

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:23 PM
Hang on, the great barrier reef just sprang ouch.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:25 PM
No not much ever springs in my mind, all my guesses have come from watching
the discovery channel.You've probably heard of this barrier reef- it's a great one. And when I say great, I mean great.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:25 PM
Okay, great. So where is the Great Barrier Reef?

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:27 PM
Okay, great. So where is the Great Barrier Reef?
Australia i think.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:31 PM
Australia i think.Right. The place is Australia. All of these things are venomous. Stonefish is one. You just need:

A crownless king that is black but not by name.
A wingless wasp that is also a box with no lid.

If you don't already know them- and if you know about venomous things in Australia, you should know about these two things- google should turn them up.

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:35 PM
Snakes? king cobra wasp snake. or crate snake.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:38 PM
Snakes? king cobra wasp snake. or crate snake.No but king cobra is the right idea. ...the other clue about the king?

I think all the cobras are in Africa? Nope, I was wrong.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:41 PM
Did you ever google the wasp and box?

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:43 PM
Spiders, i am realy guessing now.

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:46 PM
Or jelly fish, i was stung by one but not in australia.

Danger
Jun16-05, 01:48 PM
Did they fall?
Actually, nevermind.
:tongue: ..

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:50 PM
Or jelly fish, i was stung by one but not in australia.Yes, the box jellyfish a.k.a. sea wasp.

The last one is a snake. Part of its name is 'king'. Part of its name is a color other than black. It also goes by another name rhyming with... nothing much.

wolram
Jun16-05, 01:54 PM
Yes, the box jellyfish a.k.a. sea wasp.

The last one is a snake. Part of its name is 'king'. Part of its name is a color other than black. It also goes by another name rhyming with... nothing much.
That was a guess so i dont deserve a win, anyone have a clue? if not i
will have to research one.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 01:57 PM
That was a guess so i dont deserve a win, anyone have a clue? if not i
will have to research one.Hold on speedracer. You still need the name of the snake. :tongue2:

wolram
Jun16-05, 02:06 PM
Where is everyone? never a brain about when you need one :redface:

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 02:17 PM
Are you not googling anymore? Okay, you can guess it. The name is two words: king [color other than black]. If you watched US football and were from Cleveland you could guess the color...

wolram
Jun16-05, 02:20 PM
Ive been through the rainbow and the only one that fits is kingbrown but im not sure if it is venemous.

DocToxyn
Jun16-05, 02:22 PM
Yes, the box jellyfish a.k.a. sea wasp.

The last one is a snake. Part of its name is 'king'. Part of its name is a color other than black. It also goes by another name rhyming with... nothing much.

King Brown, Pseudechis australis, also known as a Mulga, actually one of the Black snake family.

At first I was going for Scarlet Kingsnake, until I found the poisonous clue. It's close though, it does have black on it and it "pretends" to be poisonous.

wolram
Jun16-05, 02:23 PM
Are you not googling anymore? Okay, you can guess it. The name is two words: king [color other than black]. If you watched US football and were from Cleveland you could guess the color...
Cleveland brown socks?

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 02:30 PM
Cleveland brown socks? :rofl: Cleveland Browns. The sock teams are in baseball.

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 02:38 PM
King Brown, Pseudechis australis, also known as a Mulga, actually one of the Black snake family.

At first I was going for Scarlet Kingsnake, until I found the poisonous clue. It's close though, it does have black on it and it "pretends" to be poisonous.Oh, this is correct, BTW.

I wonder how many other poser snakes there are. There are snakes that pose as rattlers. That's all I can think of.

Well, I guess wolram was right first and got the other clues... you want it wolram?

wolram
Jun16-05, 02:41 PM
The major find was in the gap between the putty layers. A cement vault was discovered. The vault itself was 7 feet high with 7 inch thick walls. Inside the vault the drill first struck wood, then a void several inches high and an unknown substance. Next a layer of soft metal was reached, then almost 3 feet of metal pieces, and then more soft metal.

wolram
Jun16-05, 02:45 PM
:rofl: Cleveland Browns. The sock teams are in baseball.
Well im not very sporty :redface: but what blooper :biggrin:

honestrosewater
Jun16-05, 03:15 PM
The major find was in the gap between the putty layers. A cement vault was discovered. The vault itself was 7 feet high with 7 inch thick walls. Inside the vault the drill first struck wood, then a void several inches high and an unknown substance. Next a layer of soft metal was reached, then almost 3 feet of metal pieces, and then more soft metal.What do you want to know?

matthyaouw
Jun16-05, 04:10 PM
The major find was in the gap between the putty layers. A cement vault was discovered. The vault itself was 7 feet high with 7 inch thick walls. Inside the vault the drill first struck wood, then a void several inches high and an unknown substance. Next a layer of soft metal was reached, then almost 3 feet of metal pieces, and then more soft metal.

This is the money pit on Oak Island. they'd given up digging, and started boring by this point.

matthyaouw
Jun16-05, 04:24 PM
Actually, they seem not to have given up at digging through. This was in 1897, after the flooding of the pit.

wolram
Jun16-05, 05:06 PM
This is the money pit on Oak Island. they'd given up digging, and started boring by this point.
I give up everyone knows about everything these days :smile:

brewnog
Jun16-05, 06:36 PM
I give up everyone knows about everything these days :smile:

Someone posted it in S&D the other day...

wolram
Jun17-05, 06:05 AM
Someone posted it in S&D the other day...

I just looked it up, soon the internet will know everything, who needs
MI5 or the FBI, when we have google :biggrin:

brewnog
Jun17-05, 06:30 AM
I just looked it up, soon the internet will know everything, who needs
MI5 or the FBI, when we have google :biggrin:

Yeah, and google usually just brings you straight back here.

matthyaouw
Jun17-05, 07:16 AM
Someone posted it in S&D the other day...

That would be me, hence the speedy response :biggrin:
I'll post one in a moment. Gotta sort out some clues first

matthyaouw
Jun17-05, 08:01 AM
With arms almost the size of the Eifel tower, this floating device plugged the final hole in the country's defences

wolram
Jun17-05, 08:42 AM
storm surge barrier at the tip of the Netherlands.

matthyaouw
Jun17-05, 11:41 AM
Curses. I thought I had a tricky one there.
Your go.

wolram
Jun17-05, 11:47 AM
Curses. I thought I had a tricky one there.
Your go.
Gordon bennit you mean i was right :surprised :surprised

matthyaouw
Jun17-05, 11:54 AM
Aye. Its the barrier that protects Rotterdam. I don't suppose you were watching the documentary about it on wenesday night were you?

wolram
Jun17-05, 12:10 PM
Aye. Its the barrier that protects Rotterdam. I don't suppose you were watching the documentary about it on wenesday night were you?
I saw a discovery program about it some time ago

wolram
Jun17-05, 12:13 PM
Combine another word for ditch and er with another word for meadow
to find this colossus

honestrosewater
Jun17-05, 08:38 PM
Combine another word for ditch and er with another word for meadow
to find this colossusWhat is 'er'? Is that 'err' or 'ER', as in emergency room?

zoobyshoe
Jun18-05, 12:02 AM
Combine another word for ditch and er with another word for meadow
to find this colossus
Would you mean the Trencherfield Mill Steam Engine?

Ivan Seeking
Jun18-05, 12:53 AM
Would you mean the Trencherfield Mill Steam Engine?

Well, I for one am willing to assume that's not just a coincidence. :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
Jun18-05, 01:34 AM
Well, I for one am willing to assume that's not just a coincidence. :biggrin:
On another site, in a galaxy far, far away, we were playing a guessing game, and the clue was "Damn Dog! That's me!" So I guessed Cerberus, the three headed dog who guards the entrance to the under world. Turns out he meant it to refer to himself, in his real life capacity as a writer of crossword puzzles. "Damn" was supposed to translate as "cross word" (angry utterance), and "dog" as "fellow" or "chap" as in "You lucky dog!" Everyone knew the guy was British, and that he wrote crossword puzzles for a living, but I thought it was the most impenetrable clue I'd ever heard. "Cerberus" was such a better answer.

wolram
Jun18-05, 01:54 AM
Would you mean the Trencherfield Mill Steam Engine?
That is uncanny but correct. next time i will just think the clue, then we
will know whats going on. :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
Jun18-05, 02:28 AM
That is uncanny but correct. next time i will just think the clue, then we
will know whats going on. :biggrin:
Actually, it was an extremely well constructed clue. The trickiest part was figuring out what the "er" meant. Ditch and meadow have only one satisfying synonym each, and these turned out to be what you wanted. Just googling "trencherfield" got me right to the mill, and the only thing there that qualified as a "colossus" was the big steam engine.

Anyone who wants may put up the next clue.

Ivan Seeking
Jun18-05, 02:52 AM
This chelating agent, of which there are three major types and three major grades, killed over twenty people in the worst disaster of its kind. Buildings were knocked off their foundations, there was chaos, terror, victims to be dug out and trapped survivors, rescue workers among the victims, and anguished families rushing to relief centers to find their relatives.

honestrosewater
Jun18-05, 03:28 AM
Oxalic acid?

zoobyshoe
Jun18-05, 03:49 AM
Trans-1,2-Diaminocyclohexane-N,N,N',N'-tetraacetic acid, monohydrate?

honestrosewater
Jun18-05, 04:00 AM
Did you find the disaster? I haven't found anything- oxalic acid was just the only one I found that was explosive.
I figure it was either an explosion or failure (like a dam or something). But I can't imagine how a chelating agent would cause a failure? Of course, I didn't know what a chelating agent was until this question. :rolleyes:

wolram
Jun18-05, 05:35 AM
The film Blade, wherein several vampires are injected with an anticoagulant chemical, EDTA, and explode violently. :yuck:

wolram
Jun18-05, 08:47 AM
Where is that Ivan sea king?

honestrosewater
Jun18-05, 12:22 PM
Yes, where is old Posie? He's the one who suggested we keep two questions going for this very reason. :frown:

JamesU
Jun18-05, 12:34 PM
wow..you guys are struggling to keep this thread alive, especially after the "where is it" thread came alon :biggrin:

wolram
Jun18-05, 12:44 PM
wow..you guys are struggling to keep this thread alive, especially after the "where is it" thread came alon :biggrin:

What are you talking about sir, " where is it", well its at the bottom of my
garden, we call it the privy, apart from that i can not find my car keys, where
the eky thump are they.

Ivan Seeking
Jun18-05, 03:41 PM
No, no, and no. :biggrin:

In one form, it is treated with sulfur fumes. We also find calcium, potassium, oxalate and chloride present in this compound.

Ivan Seeking
Jun18-05, 03:52 PM
Also, one part this with nine parts water removes rust from iron.

brewnog
Jun18-05, 05:45 PM
Baking powder?

honestrosewater
Jun18-05, 05:58 PM
Wait- molasses? That can't be right. :confused:

honestrosewater
Jun18-05, 06:01 PM
The Boston Molasses Tragedy of 1919 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A613045)

I guess I wasn't far off with the dam failure. :rolleyes:

honestrosewater
Jun18-05, 06:14 PM
Oh, yeah, and:
Sulphured molasses is made from green (unripe) sugar cane and is treated with sulphur fumes during the sugar extraction process.
...
The non-sugar content includes many salts such as calcium, potassium, oxalate and chloride.
...
Molasses is a chelating agent. An object coated with iron rust placed for two weeks in a mixture of one part molasses to nine parts water will lose its rust due to the chelating action of the molasses
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molasses

I think that's the strangest one yet.

I actually happened to see Indian pudding made today at Durgin Park in Boston. Indian pudding is made with molasses.

honestrosewater
Jun18-05, 06:48 PM
Many think he's fantastic, but he might prefer to be called fabulous.

Ivan Seeking
Jun18-05, 07:30 PM
The Boston Molasses Tragedy of 1919 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A613045)

I guess I wasn't far off with the dam failure. :rolleyes:

:biggrin:

Also:
The Terror of the Scene
I went to original newspaper articles to find out what it was like. Envision a disaster scene with smashed buildings, overturned vehicles, drowned and crushed victims, and terrified survivors running away covered in molasses. Like the modern-day disasters with which we are unfortunately familiar, there was chaos, terror, buildings in ruins, victims to be dug out, trapped survivors to be rescued, rescue workers among the victims, and anguished families rushing to relief centers to find their relatives. It was like any horrible disaster scene, with the addition that everything was covered in smelly sticky brown molasses.

http://edp.org/bin/molasses77103S.jpg

But get this!
Before the explosion, the tank's owner, U.S. Industrial Alcohol, responded to warnings about structural problems with the tank by painting it brown, making it harder to see the molasses leaking out of the tank. (Stephen Puleo, Dark Tide (Boston: Beacon Press, 2003): 70-71.)
Hours after the explosion, a company lawyer was on the scene falsely blaming others for the disaster. (Ibid, 112-113.)
http://edp.org/molasses.htm

hitssquad
Jun18-05, 10:03 PM
Many think he's fantastic, but he might prefer to be called fabulous.Why, thank you. So are you.

Ivan Seeking
Jun19-05, 01:03 AM
Many think he's fantastic, but he might prefer to be called fabulous.

Elton John?

wolram
Jun19-05, 09:01 AM
Many think he's fantastic, but he might prefer to be called fabulous.
seve ballesteros?

honestrosewater
Jun19-05, 10:42 AM
Nope. This guy was in Mallrats.

somsom
Jun19-05, 11:01 AM
Rat cave=dogcave

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 12:07 PM
Stan Lee.

.

honestrosewater
Jun19-05, 01:03 PM
Stan Lee.

.Very nice. I've read that he wanted to call the Fantastic Four the Fabulous Four, but I'm not sure if it's true.

Ivan Seeking
Jun19-05, 05:32 PM
So hitssquad, you are up to post a question.

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 06:06 PM
OK. I need a little while to think.

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 06:59 PM
Beggar the least.

honestrosewater
Jun19-05, 08:24 PM
Beggar the least.Is that the clue?

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 09:31 PM
Yes. Its name is alliterate.

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 09:48 PM
Related image:

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue12.jpg

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 09:57 PM
Another related image:

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue13.jpg

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 10:02 PM
And another one:

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue14.jpg

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 10:15 PM
And another 'nother one:

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue15.jpg

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 10:20 PM
http://www.cookiecarnival.com/images/craz/MandM.jpg

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 10:25 PM
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Eminem-point-l-poster.jpg

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 10:36 PM
http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue16.jpg

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 10:41 PM
http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue17.jpg

hitssquad
Jun19-05, 10:50 PM
http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue18.jpg

zoobyshoe
Jun19-05, 11:16 PM
Yes. Its name is alliterate.
Two or more words beginning with the letter "M".


What is puzzling me the most is the initial clue: "Beggar the least." I have no idea what to make of it.

hitssquad
Jun20-05, 12:08 AM
Two or moreTwo. Eminem's name is Marshall Mathers, not Marshall Mathers Muthers or Marshall Mathers Muthers Mithers (in which cases his name more appropriately might have been Emineminem or Eminemineminem, respectively).



words beginning with the letter "M".

Ivan Seeking
Jun20-05, 12:40 AM
Are those paintings of the winter of 1708 and 1709?

hitssquad
Jun20-05, 12:48 AM
Are those paintings of the winter of 1708 and 1709?No, they are not. Those four paintings are all by the same painter, and he died before 1708.

hitssquad
Jun20-05, 01:00 AM
Here is one by another painter who also died before 1708:

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue19.jpg

zoobyshoe
Jun20-05, 01:08 AM
The Moment Magnitude Scale?

hitssquad
Jun20-05, 01:13 AM
No.

Those three graphs are all graphs of (roughly; as you can see they do not match exactly) the same data set.

hitssquad
Jun20-05, 01:40 AM
Look at this. Someone wrote a book about this thing and put the name of it right in the title:

http://www.efn.org/~callen/imageclue20.jpg

honestrosewater
Jun20-05, 03:17 AM
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/9812382755/qid=1119255397/sr=1-37/ref=sr_1_37/104-6428708-1282329?v=glance&s=books
Amazon is the greatest.

Maunder Minimum

hitssquad
Jun20-05, 11:35 AM
How did you find it?

hitssquad
Jun20-05, 11:38 AM
Beggar the least. Maunder = "archaic : BEGGAR." Minimum = "2 : the least quantity assignable, admissible, or possible in a given case."

hitssquad
Jun20-05, 11:40 AM
Who painted the first four paintings above?

zoobyshoe
Jun20-05, 01:00 PM
Beggar the least. Maunder = "archaic : BEGGAR." Minimum = "2 : the least quantity assignable, admissible, or possible in a given case."
Link me to something that shows I could have gotten from "beggar" to "maunder".

hitssquad
Jun20-05, 02:20 PM
google.com/search?q=beggar+dictionary+maunder (http://www.google.com/search?q=beggar+dictionary+maunder)

Also, my Merriam Webster Unabridged Dictionary software allows me to search the definition fields. Searching the def fields for "beggar" turns up only five words beginning with the letter M. I recommend that students of science consider purchasing unabridged dictionary software. Not everything can be googled.

zoobyshoe
Jun20-05, 04:39 PM
google.com/search?q=beggar+dictionary+maunder (http://www.google.com/search?q=beggar+dictionary+maunder)

How could I enter "maunder" in a search unless I already knew it was an archaic synonym for "beggar"? And if I already knew, why would I search?

hitssquad
Jun20-05, 05:17 PM
if I already knew, why would I search?The other clues might lead you to the answer first. The first clue can then be checked for your reassurance to see if it matches, or you might take it as an article of faith that the clue has something to do with the answer you found.

honestrosewater
Jun21-05, 12:34 AM
How did you find it?I searched Amazon for books with 'minimum' in the title. Luckily, the book was on the fourth or so page (out of 2500+ results!).
Before that, I did find the 'mendicant minstrels'. Minstrels perhaps being considered 'the least' in social rank. 'Moocher' didn't turn up anything.

I didn't get maunder either. And I tried tons of sources.

hitssquad
Jun21-05, 01:07 AM
I searched Amazon for books with 'minimum' in the title.Ah ha. I had been thinking that maybe you had found it with wildcards. After you posted with news of your success, I had a "how could I be so stupid" moment and checked on Amazon for easy ways to search for the book. I found the Power Search at the bottom of the Advanced Search page and saw that it accepts wildcards. I tried <title: "M* M*"> and <keyword: "M* M*">, though, and it turned up no results.



I didn't get maunder either. And I tried tons of sources.I didn't expect most people to get it. That's why I posted other clues. BTW, the fourth painting has a Dutch windmill in it. An educated guesser looking for the name of the painter might try searching for <van> since that is commonly a part of Dutch names:
google.com/search?q=%22maunder+minimum%22+van (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22maunder+minimum%22+van)

That search turns up the web pages discussing the Maunder Minimum and the connection it has with the paintings of Aert van der Neer. This NASA sight was where I got the idea to post his golf-on-frozen-rivers/canals paintings in connection with the phenomenon:
gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20011207iceage.html (http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20011207iceage.html)


BTW, I first heard about the Maunder Minimum here:
personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/ (http://personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/)

Marusek's (not very popular) theory is that sunspot activity corresponds positively with solar magnetic flux. This magnetic flux, in turn, keeps Galactic Cosmic Rays (GCR's) away from the earth. The GCR's "interact with the lower atmosphere to spawn cloud creation. A burst of GCRs produces a period of intense low cloud cover, which blocks sunlight, reflects solar radiation back out into deep space producing depressed temperatures globally."
personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/IceAgeCometh.pdf (http://personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/IceAgeCometh.pdf)

honestrosewater
Jun21-05, 01:16 AM
I was going to guess Aert van der Neer and Brueghel the Elder, but I wasn't able to find any of the paintings you posted! Where are they?
I found http://www.cora.nwra.com/~werne/eos/text/maunder.html but Brueghel in many places, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

honestrosewater
Jun21-05, 01:49 AM
Oh, I guess I should think of a clue... I'm running out of ideas.

Some see a similarity between these three famous faces.

honestrosewater
Jun21-05, 10:09 AM
They even have a reason for why the faces seem similar.

wolram
Jun21-05, 11:50 AM
They even have a reason for why the faces seem similar.

http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/tutwatch/secrets.html

Tuts new and old face.

honestrosewater
Jun21-05, 01:43 PM
http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/tutwatch/secrets.html

Tuts new and old face.Nope, and it's three faces. :smile: :smile: :smile:

hitssquad
Jun21-05, 03:48 PM
I was going to guess Aert van der Neer and Brueghel the Elder, but I wasn't able to find any of the paintings you posted! Where are they?First I googled...
images.google.com/images?q=%22Aert%20van%20der%20Neer%22%20frozen (http://images.google.com/images?q=%22Aert%20van%20der%20Neer%22%20frozen)

...and that led me to:
bestpriceart.com/search/?cri=artists&ust=Aert%20van%20der%20Neer (http://www.bestpriceart.com/search/?cri=artists&ust=Aert%20van%20der%20Neer)

(Click, and then click again, on the paintings and they become quite large.)

The fifth painting is by Abraham Hondius (December 1676):
cora.nwra.com/~werne/eos/text/maunder.html (http://www.cora.nwra.com/~werne/eos/text/maunder.html)

honestrosewater
Jun21-05, 04:20 PM
First I googled...
images.google.com/images?q=%22Aert%20van%20der%20Neer%22%20frozen (http://images.google.com/images?q=%22Aert%20van%20der%20Neer%22%20frozen)

...and that led me to:
bestpriceart.com/search/?cri=artists&ust=Aert%20van%20der%20Neer (http://www.bestpriceart.com/search/?cri=artists&ust=Aert%20van%20der%20Neer)

(Click, and then click again, on the paintings and they become quite large.)

The fifth painting is by Abraham Hondius (December 1676):
cora.nwra.com/~werne/eos/text/maunder.html (http://www.cora.nwra.com/~werne/eos/text/maunder.html)
O, that's so horrible! I was going to google frozen river- it looked like a river to me- but since when do rivers freeze? So I searched for titles with frozen pond, frozen lake, winter landscape, ice skaters, etc. I can't believe it was a frozen river. Does that happen a lot?

hypatia
Jun21-05, 05:03 PM
the Moirae?

hitssquad
Jun21-05, 06:40 PM
since when do rivers freeze?The Maunder Minimum, ~1645 to ~1715 AD, a period of nearly zero sunspot activity, coincided with the coldest part of the Little Ice Age, which in turn extended from the "mid-14th to the mid-19th centuries."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age)

We currently are experiencing a period of abnormally high sunspot activity, and we are also experiencing abnormally high global temperatures.

Some rivers in certain extreme-latitude climates freeze regularly. The rivers depicted in the paintings I posted normally never freeze. The fifth painting shows the frozen Thames in London, a river that never freezes during periods of sunspot maxima.

Another, but shorter, period of low solar spot activity took place circa 1780:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age#Northern_Hemisphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age#Northern_Hemisphere)

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In the winter of 1780, New York Harbor froze, allowing people to walk from Manhattan to Staten Island.
--


Apparently, high sunspot activity, and hence high solar magnetic flux, plus the lack of a recent very nearby supernova event, plus sufficient terrestrial magnetic flux, are protecting us from colder conditions. Or at least that is what James Marusek thinks.
personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/IceAgeCometh.pdf (http://personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/IceAgeCometh.pdf)

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The Little Ice Age correlates well with a newly discovered type II shell-like supernova remnant (SNR) referred to as RX J0852.0-4622 (also called GRO J0852-4642). This supernova event occurred approximately 685 years ago (the time that the visible spectrum would have reached Earth) and the SNR was located approximately 200pc (650 light years) from Earth. This is the nearest supernova experienced during modern times....

Overlaying RX J0852.0-4622 SNR over Earth’s history beginning in the 14th century, GCRs with energies in the TeVs would arrive simultaneously with the visible spectrum; whereas, 10 GeV GCRs would reach Earth approximately 3 years later. GCRs in the range of 10Gev and above caused the strong downturn in temperature and the beginning of the Little Ice Age. The effects from this initial GCR surge produced the famine of 1315-1322AD. As the years passed, the energy levels of the GCRs began to decline. The cosmic ray flux rate is modulated by variations in the magnetic field of the Earth and Sun. Around 1600AD, the level fell to approximately 400 MeV. At this point, the sun’s magnetic shield became effective at deflecting significant quantities of incoming particles. But then from 1645-1715 AD, a very rare event occurred; the suns magnetic field essentially went dormant, the Maunder Minimum. The GCR flux rate shot up dramatically and global temperatures reached their coldest point. The maximum glacial stage occurred in the 1750’s. Glaciers became more widespread than at any time since the beginning of the Holocene....

In my opinion, the Earth’s magnetic field even though it has substantially weakened, presently remains with sufficient strength to constrain the long-term effects from the next Global Cooling Event.
--

honestrosewater
Jun21-05, 06:55 PM
the Moirae?No, but you're a little closer time-wise than King Tut.
Two of the faces are in the same city. The other one is in another country and was just recently built a new home.

honestrosewater
Jun22-05, 03:41 PM
Hello? Has everyone abandoned me? One face is in Paris. In a museum in Paris. A famous museum in Paris. And was recently moved from a cramped wall to a huge enclosure all to itself. The face is in a painting. A famous face on a famous painting in a famous museum in Paris.

wolram
Jun22-05, 04:04 PM
Hello? Has everyone abandoned me? One face is in Paris. In a museum in Paris. A famous museum in Paris. And was recently moved from a cramped wall to a huge enclosure all to itself. The face is in a painting. A famous face on a famous painting in a famous museum in Paris.

How could anyone abandon you HRW , i am clueless, my brain wont work, art
is not one of specialities.

wolram
Jun22-05, 04:05 PM
Mona lisa?

honestrosewater
Jun22-05, 04:29 PM
Mona lisa?Correct. Now the other two faces are in the same city... in Italy.

wolram
Jun22-05, 04:38 PM
Correct. Now the other two faces are in the same city... in Italy.

:surprised :surprised
Forgive me if this clue is not good.
it is a blood sucker, not, the middle sounds like dentistry, the last is hellish.

Ivan Seeking
Jun22-05, 06:47 PM
The Maunder Minimum, ~1645 to ~1715 AD, a period of nearly zero sunspot activity, coincided with the coldest part of the Little Ice Age, which in turn extended from the "mid-14th to the mid-19th centuries."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age)

No fair! That little ice age is the answer that I had in mind when I asked about the artwork. The coldest winter was the winter of 1708 and 1709. :grumpy:

honestrosewater
Jun22-05, 07:02 PM
:surprised :surprised
Forgive me if this clue is not good.
it is a blood sucker, not, the middle sounds like dentistry, the last is hellish.Ah, one of the three faces is the Mona Lisa. The other two faces are in a city in Italy. The city begins with a T. One is kept in a church. Its true origin is shrouded in mystery. :wink:

brewnog
Jun22-05, 07:11 PM
Ah, one of the three faces is the Mona Lisa. The other two faces are in a city in Italy. The city begins with a T. One is kept in a church. Its true origin is shrouded in mystery. :wink:

The Turin Shroud, then...

honestrosewater
Jun22-05, 08:02 PM
The Turin Shroud, then...Right, so what is the third face that's kept in Turin and some people think was the model for both the Mona Lisa and the Shroud of Turin?

honestrosewater
Jun22-05, 08:45 PM
:uhh: It's a self-portrait.

hitssquad
Jun22-05, 09:10 PM
Leonardo's self-portrait in Turin?

honestrosewater
Jun22-05, 09:43 PM
Leonardo's self-portrait in Turin?Correct! Some people think Leonardo created the Shroud of Turin and used himself as the model for it, the Mona Lisa, and (uncontroversially) his self-portrait.

So you each got one of the faces. Um, maybe you each get a turn?

wolram
Jun23-05, 04:06 AM
Ah, one of the three faces is the Mona Lisa. The other two faces are in a city in Italy. The city begins with a T. One is kept in a church. Its true origin is shrouded in mystery. :wink:
I fell asleep and must have dreamed that i solved all three.

honestrosewater
Jun23-05, 05:35 AM
I fell asleep and must have dreamed that i solved all three.Hey, leave my butt out of this or I'll send the ram of wool after you. :grumpy: :buggrin:
You have a question going, what was it
it is a blood sucker, not, the middle sounds like dentistry, the last is hellish.Hm, I have no idea.

wolram
Jun23-05, 05:42 AM
Hypoxia and aspic?

wolram
Jun23-05, 05:18 PM
Where are you HRWWB?

brewnog
Jun23-05, 05:35 PM
Clue me man!

wolram
Jun23-05, 05:43 PM
it is a blood sucker, not, the middle sounds like dentistry, the last is hellish.

wolram
Jun23-05, 05:43 PM
Hypoxia and aspic?

brewnog
Jun23-05, 05:48 PM
I meant a new clue! I think I'm a bit out of the loop on this one.

wolram
Jun23-05, 05:53 PM
Look in wiki for hypoxia, then find a link to aspic, then what is a blood sucker,
and the sounds like dentisry thing. then the hellish bit.

brewnog
Jun23-05, 06:28 PM
Well I know what hypoxia and aspic are, and I have a fair idea of a blood sucker. Then I get stuck.

wolram
Jun24-05, 02:30 AM
Well I know what hypoxia and aspic are, and I have a fair idea of a blood sucker. Then I get stuck.

A creature that needs very little oxygen.

wolram
Jun24-05, 07:34 AM
It is not jelly, but close.

brewnog
Jun24-05, 12:25 PM
A jellyfish? I have no idea.

wolram
Jun24-05, 12:31 PM
A jellyfish? I have no idea.

If i gave you fithty quids, i bet you would spend it on beer.

brewnog
Jun24-05, 12:36 PM
Gelatin?!!

wolram
Jun24-05, 12:41 PM
Gelatin?!!

No it is a creature, that needs little oxygen, has a jelly like structure, it even
has a defensive luminescent arsenal.

honestrosewater
Jun24-05, 02:38 PM
No it is a creature, that needs little oxygen, has a jelly like structure, it even
has a defensive luminescent arsenal.On this clue, I'll guess sea anemone. But I'm not sure about the other clues yet...

Danger
Jun24-05, 03:12 PM
I'm guessing squid. If it's right, somebody else go. I have to leave for work now. Won't be back until after midnight.

wolram
Jun25-05, 03:11 AM
I'm guessing squid. If it's right, somebody else go. I have to leave for work now. Won't be back until after midnight.

It is a squid but a very special one, keep going.

honestrosewater
Jun25-05, 06:34 AM
Vampyroteuthis infernalis.

And I hear it has a wicked butt. :tongue2:

wolram
Jun25-05, 06:37 AM
Vampyroteuthis infernalis.

And I hear it has a wicked butt. :tongue2:

Right on babe, you are a one :devil:

honestrosewater
Jun25-05, 07:16 AM
Right on babe, you are a one :devil:Well, your clue was the dog's bollocks. :rofl: Yeah, I don't really understand that expression. But on with the show...

This lone star ring was killed by the big C.

wolram
Jun25-05, 08:17 AM
Well, your clue was the dog's bollocks. :rofl: Yeah, I don't really understand that expression. But on with the show...

This lone star ring was killed by the big C.

HMMM, something about Texas? Rose, dogs bollocks are rough english slang
meaning the best.

honestrosewater
Jun25-05, 08:56 AM
HMMM, something about Texas?Spot on.

Rose, dogs bollocks are rough english slang
meaning the best.Yeah, what I don't understand is, well, have you ever seen a dog's bollocks? :confused:

wolram
Jun25-05, 09:03 AM
Spot on.

Yeah, what I don't understand is, well, have you ever seen a dog's bollocks? :confused:


:rofl: :rofl: Every day, benji loves to lay on the sofa, with legs splayed
apart.

wolram
Jun25-05, 09:17 AM
Texas, famous for horses, music?

honestrosewater
Jun25-05, 09:30 AM
This was a very expensive ring.

wolram
Jun25-05, 09:43 AM
Texas has gambling, so a massive win that broke the bank?

Danger
Jun25-05, 11:37 AM
The new super-collider that Congress yanked the funding on?

honestrosewater
Jun26-05, 09:48 AM
Sorry, had computer problems yesterday.
The new super-collider that Congress yanked the funding on?Bingo. The Superconducting Super Collider (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider). A ring particle accelerator, to be built in Texas, Congress was the big C, ~$8.25 billion is very expensive in my book. :biggrin:

wolram
Jun26-05, 11:48 AM
The new super-collider that Congress yanked the funding on?

Im begining to think your quite bright, anyhows, jolly good show old boy.

Danger
Jun26-05, 01:08 PM
Im begining to think your quite bright
Not really. I just remember hearing about it on the news or in SciAm or somewhere a few months ago.

An accessory for it was patented 45 years before the thing itself, by someone else. The thing itself was never built to the original specs, so far as can be determined. Several subsquent patents by other people were unsuccessful designs.

edit: I'm going for a well-needed nap now. Feel free to post parallel puzzles while I'm gone.

brewnog
Jun26-05, 01:26 PM
Recoil mechanism on a rifle. Patented in 1899 by Paul Mauser, the M1 Garrand rifle wasn't actually made for another 45 years.

Danger
Jun26-05, 05:49 PM
Recoil mechanism on a rifle.
Interesting info, of which I was unaware, but not what I'm thinking of. (I'll have to look into that, though.)

Original was hand-cranked.

brewnog
Jun26-05, 05:51 PM
Ahh, then it's the starter motor for a car. This one's been done before though, so (assuming it's the right answer!) I won't take credit.



Edit: Actually, I think I'm wrong, the gap wasn't nearly 50 years. But I'll leave it there just in case!

For you to look into my last guess, click http://patentpending.blogs.com/patent_pending_blog/firearms_patentstechnology/ and search for "Mauser".

Danger
Jun26-05, 05:53 PM
so (assuming it's the right answer!) I won't take credit.
You assume too quickly, m'man. Back it up a hundred years or so.

honestrosewater
Jun27-05, 07:21 AM
Does this have something to do with communication? I'm thinking the phonograph was originally hand-cranked...

Danger
Jun27-05, 10:39 AM
Does this have something to do with communication?
Nope......

wolram
Jun27-05, 11:05 AM
An accessory for it was patented 45 years before the thing itself, by someone else. The thing itself was never built to the original specs, so far as can be determined. Several subsquent patents by other people were unsuccessful designs.

A vacuum cleaner?

Danger
Jun27-05, 06:21 PM
A vacuum cleaner?
Sorry... no. But you're starting to get closer. Continue on the domestic theme.
Thanks for the link, Noggie. I'll go read it right now.

zoobyshoe
Jun27-05, 07:42 PM
I think he's refering to the sewing machine.

Danger
Jun27-05, 08:05 PM
I think he's refering to the sewing machine.
I think he thinks correctly. A sewing machine needle was patented in 1755, but there was no machine to go with it. (Just realized that I screwed up the time span.) A machine was patented in 1790, but not built. The first working model was made, but not patented, in 1810. Weird.

wolram
Jun28-05, 11:33 AM
I think he thinks correctly. A sewing machine needle was patented in 1755, but there was no machine to go with it. (Just realized that I screwed up the time span.) A machine was patented in 1790, but not built. The first working model was made, but not patented, in 1810. Weird.

Screwed up the time span eh, not another ground hog day.

wolram
Jun28-05, 01:37 PM
its about 8482 square km, and its a wet cell.

brewnog
Jun28-05, 01:50 PM
Oooh I like the sound of this!

Is it Lake Volta? If so, I admire your punnage. :smile:

wolram
Jun28-05, 02:03 PM
Oooh I like the sound of this!

Is it Lake Volta? If so, I admire your punnage. :smile:

INcredible FAnblooming Tastic.

brewnog
Jun28-05, 04:58 PM
Well that was such a good pun, and I feel so guilty for getting it straight away that I want you to do another one. Your go again!

Ivan Seeking
Jun28-05, 06:10 PM
Since Wolram took off for the moment... An interesting pic from my files. It may be obvious, but if not, or even if so, I thought it worth a go around. What was it?

http://img106.echo.cx/img106/51/whatwasit4pz.jpg

brewnog
Jun28-05, 06:12 PM
Is that a CAT or MRI scanner?

Ivan Seeking
Jun28-05, 06:15 PM
Very good! You are on the right track.

Ivan Seeking
Jun28-05, 06:19 PM
There is a story behind the picture posted. Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to give a reasonable approximation of that story.

zoobyshoe
Jun28-05, 06:35 PM
There is a story behind the picture posted. Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to give a reasonable approximation of that story.
Is this the portable MRI unit for which you engineered a self-leveling system?

Ivan Seeking
Jun28-05, 06:43 PM
Is this the portable MRI unit for which you engineered a self-leveling system?

No :rofl:

Now wait, did I tell you about the leveling system, or was that a fortuitous joke?

brewnog
Jun28-05, 06:46 PM
I'm afraid I don't know very many MRI related anecdotes, except for the poor chap who was last week scanned under the influence of a muscle relaxant, while they played Dido to him!

Being paralysed, strapped down, and forced to listen to Dido doesn't sound like fun.

Ivan Seeking
Jun28-05, 06:49 PM
This is a logical anecdote - one that can be deduced.

zoobyshoe
Jun28-05, 07:12 PM
No :rofl:

Now wait, did I tell you about the leveling system, or was that a fortuitous joke?
You mentioned it along with several other engineering accomplishments in a thread I started last year about those people who scam inventors. You talked about the guy you know who was involved with the creation of the Biodome in the desert in the same thread IIRC.

zoobyshoe
Jun28-05, 07:14 PM
This is a logical anecdote - one that can be deduced.
Oh, I bet the thing with the strap hanging off is some ferrous object that was sucked into the magnet.

Ivan Seeking
Jun28-05, 07:27 PM
Oh, I bet the thing with the strap hanging off is some ferrous object that was sucked into the magnet.

http://img106.echo.cx/img106/3733/mriscrubber7ro.jpg

The janitor ain't supposed to go in there with the scrubber.

Something similar happened to me. Someone had mixed in a chair with iron in the frame, with the identical stainless steel chairs used in the MRI lab. That particular magnet was 0.95T as I recall, and I was literally taken off my feet with my arm slung through the chair. I had to winch it out! We had another guy who was a WWI vet who had some really low grade stainless pins in his leg from the war. They were virtually sucked out of his leg. :yuck:

brewnog
Jun28-05, 07:29 PM
That's fantastic!

I thought they made damn sure that stuff like this didn't happen, but that picture is brilliant!

Ivan Seeking
Jun28-05, 07:32 PM
You talked about the guy you know who was involved with the creation of the Biodome in the desert in the same thread IIRC.

:surprised :surprised :surprised

Oh, him. :rolleyes:

Ivan Seeking
Jun28-05, 07:36 PM
That's fantastic!

I thought they made damn sure that stuff like this didn't happen, but that picture is brilliant!

Oh, then you would be amazed at what goes on.

wolram
Jun29-05, 07:03 AM
retained a short section of wing about six feet in length?

zoobyshoe
Jun29-05, 07:35 AM
retained a short section of wing about six feet in length?
The autogiro?

wolram
Jun29-05, 08:50 AM
The autogiro?

I thought this one might have lasted a bit longer, but Zooby gets it in one :biggrin:

wolram
Jun29-05, 10:11 AM
Earth quake ,bird, dam. who?

Ivan Seeking
Aug27-05, 12:31 AM
Cleansed by fire, or so legend says, this was made of the same material as some Egyptian burial cloths, and modern gaskets as well.

This came in handy if the Franks were messy.

wolram
Aug27-05, 01:05 AM
Asbestos, But were did this thread come from :confused:

Ivan Seeking
Aug27-05, 01:07 AM
Asbestos is not the answer.

Re thread: It died so I brought it back.

JamesU
Aug27-05, 01:07 AM
along time ago.

Ivan Seeking
Aug27-05, 01:09 AM
yes, a long time ago

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 01:31 AM
Oh, Ivan ROCKS! I've been meaning to resurrect this thread, but I hate coming up with clues...
It's not asbestos?!? Wild guess: Fiberglass?

Ivan Seeking
Aug27-05, 01:33 AM
Not fiberglass.

Be sure to read the question and rejected answers carefully. :biggrin:

wolram
Aug27-05, 01:34 AM
I can only think of Paper.

Ivan Seeking
Aug27-05, 01:36 AM
Wolram, you were much closer the first time.

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 01:39 AM
Doh! Charlemagne's tablecloth. :rolleyes:

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 01:40 AM
I can only think of Paper.That must get pretty boring after a while... :rofl:

Townsend
Aug27-05, 01:51 AM
Thin strips of gold?

Ivan Seeking
Aug27-05, 01:53 AM
Doh! Charlemagne's tablecloth. :rolleyes:


Asbestos (Greek a-, "not"; sbestos, "extinguishable") is a group of fibrous metamorphic minerals. The name is derived for its historical use in lamp wicks; the resistance of asbestos to fire has long been exploited for a variety of purposes. It was used in fabrics such as Egyptian burial cloths and Charlemagne's tablecloth, which, according to legend, he threw in a fire to clean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos

You're up.

Oh yes
Charlemagne (c. 742 or 747 – January 28, 814) (or Charles the Great, in German Karl der Große, in Latin Carolus Magnus, giving rise to the adjective form "Carolingian"), was king of the Franks from 771 to 814

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 02:12 AM
Crapola. Okay.

They don't snuggle but eat each other, and they aren't fish.

Ivan Seeking
Aug27-05, 02:17 AM
Crapola. Okay.

They don't snuggle but eat each other, and they aren't fish.

snugglefish?

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 02:33 AM
Close... when men want to fall asleep, women want to...

Townsend
Aug27-05, 02:37 AM
Black Widow?

or

Praying mantis?

Or a female hamster if you touch her offspring ?

Or a tom cat killing off a litter....

How many guesses are we allowed to post cause I could go on for quite a bit?

Townsend
Aug27-05, 02:39 AM
cuddlefish... :rofl:

Ivan Seeking
Aug27-05, 02:39 AM
Close... when men want to fall asleep, women want to...

Talking snuggle fish?

wolram
Aug27-05, 02:41 AM
Close... when men want to fall asleep, women want to...
I was going to say cuttlefish. but now________________-

Ivan Seeking
Aug27-05, 02:46 AM
I was going to say cuttlefish. but now________________-

crap, cuttlefish, that's what I meant!

Oh wait, that was townsend's answer. All moving too fast again...

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 02:51 AM
Okay, yeah, I guess Townsend's up. It's cuttlefish. I just discovered these critters and think they're the coolest... though neither cuddly nor fish.
Cuttlefish are animals of the order Sepiida, and are marine cephalopods, small relatives of squids and nautilus.
...
Cuttlefish eat small molluscs, crabs, shrimp, fish and other cuttlefish.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuttlefish

Ivan Seeking
Aug27-05, 02:52 AM
Domestic cuttlefish are very reminiscent of domestic cats, even exhibiting cat-like habits such as resting, pouncing on moving prey, begging owners for food, and even begging for more food than they need or is healthy for them. Like cats, cuttlefish are not truly tame, but rather tolerate and cooperate with their owners to live a comfortable life. But unlike cats, cuttlefish will try to eat other cuttlefish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuttlefish

Interesting...

It looks like Townsend is up.

wolram
Aug27-05, 03:22 AM
While Townsend is AOL.

This cat spins round and round, go man go.

Townsend
Aug27-05, 03:26 AM
While Townsend is AOL.

This cat spins round and round, go man go.

take it....I need some sleep..... :smile:

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 04:14 AM
While Townsend is AOL.

This cat spins round and round, go man go.Eh, the thingamabobbers spin, right? The Cat's Eye Nebula?

wolram
Aug27-05, 04:26 AM
Eh, the thingamabobbers spin, right? The Cat's Eye Nebula?

I am not sure this is a good clue.

But the cat part is a clue to a persons name.

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 04:35 AM
Cat Stevens?

(I guessed the nebula because I've seen you in the astronomy et al forums.)

Mk
Aug27-05, 04:41 AM
What happened to the thread after it died?

Cat Glover I will guess.

wolram
Aug27-05, 04:45 AM
Cat Stevens?

(I guessed the nebula because I've seen you in the astronomy et al forums.)

Think of a pet name for a cat, that will give you some one, and an invetion.

Mk
Aug27-05, 04:58 AM
Baudrons... Kitty... Pussy...

I dunno.

Here's an interesting answer that is not yours.
Bowls (also known as Lawn Bowls or Lawn Bowling) is a precision sport where the goal is to roll slightly radially asymmetrical balls (called bowls) closer to a smaller white ball, the kitty, than one's opponent is able to do.

wolram
Aug27-05, 05:01 AM
A cartoon cat, and this thing goes round and round.

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 05:12 AM
Sylvester Howard Roper, inventor of the first motorcycle??

wolram
Aug27-05, 05:15 AM
Sylvester Howard Roper, inventor of the first motorcycle??

Close wrong cartoon, and his went round and round, not up and down.

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 05:26 AM
Ahh... my brain is broken - I cannot think of any more cartoon cats! I'll look some more. Don't worry, this is a good clue. :approve:

Mk
Aug27-05, 05:33 AM
A cartoon cat, and this thing goes round and round.
I thought it was a person!

wolram
Aug27-05, 05:37 AM
I thought it was a person!

The cat part of the clue is inventor name, the round and round the invention.

Mk
Aug27-05, 05:39 AM
Recently after James GARFIELD was shot, a poor, uneducated spinner and weaver, James Hargreaves conceived the idea for the machine when he observed a spinning wheel accidentally overturned; as the spindle continued to revolve while upright, he reasoned that many spindles could be so turned, and went on to construct the first spinning jenny (patented 1770) with which one person could spin several threads at once.

Probably not, but it [doesn't work] well.

Mk
Aug27-05, 05:43 AM
In 1891, Thomas Edison (as in Tom and Jerry) built a Kinetoscope, which spins around. This device was installed in penny arcades, where people could watch short, simple films. This was especially important to Thomas Edison because he had been searching for a way to entertain customers that were listening to music on his phonograph, which spins around.

yay! I got the 2,000th post!

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 05:53 AM
OH! I was going to say Thomas Edison for lots of stuff too! :grumpy: Mk, you will be my new nemesis.

wolram
Aug27-05, 06:18 AM
It goes round and round not up and down, this was the key to the invention.

wolram
Aug27-05, 06:35 AM
I think he was the first cartoon cat.

wolram
Aug27-05, 06:37 AM
In 1891, Thomas Edison (as in Tom and Jerry) built a Kinetoscope, which spins around. This device was installed in penny arcades, where people could watch short, simple films. This was especially important to Thomas Edison because he had been searching for a way to entertain customers that were listening to music on his phonograph, which spins around.

yay! I got the 2,000th post!

Congratulations MK, you win a free go
:biggrin:

Lisa!
Aug27-05, 06:39 AM
Congratulations MK, you win a free go
:biggrin:
What about one oh those beautiful Kia's cat?

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 06:40 AM
Was that the answer?

Who was the cat? Some say Krazy Kat, but I think you meant Felix.

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 06:43 AM
Felix Wankel, rotary engine? (I swear we had this clue already - it was a picture clue.) I'm sure that's the answer, mister. Goes round and round (rotary thingy), as opposed to up and down (pistons - I know pistons go up and down! Right?)

Yep, here 'tis: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=594193&highlight=wankel#post594193
And I answered it! :rolleyes:

wolram
Aug27-05, 07:03 AM
Felix Wankel, rotary engine? (I swear we had this clue already - it was a picture clue.) I'm sure that's the answer, mister. Goes round and round (rotary thingy), as opposed to up and down (pistons - I know pistons go up and down! Right?)

Yep, here 'tis: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=594193&highlight=wankel#post594193
And I answered it! :rolleyes:

You clever old thing, :rofl: Your turn Rose, but MK has a free go.

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 07:38 AM
Heh, Wankel. :cool:


These two are real characters; one trails the other and fire trails them both.

Mk
Aug27-05, 07:59 AM
Congratulations MK, you win a free go
:biggrin:
Which one was it?

Arctodus's largest skull ever found was found by a gold miner, whose home is closest to a US state that has a captial that is the opposite of Rome in what way?

I'm going to sleep, and will be back here in approximately 12 hours, if you have found your answer you will be sure. Spell out your process and provide the next question.

I was going to post a hint but decided not to, I'm sure you'll find the shortcut and/or solve it before I awaken.

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 08:22 AM
Yukon (home) -> Alaska (state) -> Janeau (capital) -> ??

HiPPiE
Aug27-05, 08:26 AM
Was he Alaskan or no?

wolram
Aug27-05, 02:46 PM
While things are quite i will sneak this one in.

You are looking for some thing that connects.

A statue in birmingham A.

Oppenheimer

Icarus

And the Blue danube.

honestrosewater
Aug27-05, 09:25 PM
While things are quite i will sneak this one in.

You are looking for some thing that connects.

A statue in birmingham A.

Oppenheimer

Icarus

And the Blue danube.Wax?.........

Townsend
Aug27-05, 09:55 PM
While things are quite i will sneak this one in.

You are looking for some thing that connects.

A statue in birmingham A.

Oppenheimer

Icarus

And the Blue danube.

This is crazy dude.....I need another hint.

wolram
Aug27-05, 10:14 PM
This is crazy dude.....I need another hint.

just one more clue "V".

Townsend
Aug27-05, 10:21 PM
just one more clue "V".

Vulcan is the god of fire and Oppenheimer worked on the first atomic bomb so there is some connection there but what that has to do with Icarus or a dance is beyond me.... :confused: :redface:

wolram
Aug27-05, 10:32 PM
Vulcan is the god of fire and Oppenheimer worked on the first atomic bomb so there is some connection there but what that has to do with Icarus or a dance is beyond me.... :confused: :redface:

You have 90% of clue solved. "V".

Mk
Aug27-05, 11:14 PM
Yukon (home) -> Alaska (state) -> Janeau (capital) -> ??
Yes, Juneau is the answer, and it is opposite from Rome, which all roads lead to, because no roads at all lead to Juneau.

While things are quite i will sneak this one in.

You are looking for some thing that connects.

A statue in birmingham A.

Oppenheimer

Icarus

And the Blue danube.

No hints yet, this one sounds [do-able without them].

Mk
Aug27-05, 11:40 PM
Vulcan, (featuring the god Vulcan at his forge) the largest cast iron statue in the world which was first cast for the 1904 St. Louis Exposition, and displayed on top of Red Mountain in 1938.

There may be a connection with the sun: Atomic bombs harness "the power of the sun", Icarus's wings melted because of the sun... exploding Blue Danube? Heat.

Daedalus, Icarus's father arrived safe in Sicily, where he built a temple to Apollo, and hung up his wings, an offering to the god. Apollo, in modern times has became in part confused or equated with Helios, god of the sun.

Vulcanoids are theoretical asteroids that may orbit in a dynamically stable zone between 0.08 and 0.21 astronomical units from the Sun.

1566 Icarus was an asteroid discovered in 1949 by Walter Baade

That backs up the sun idea more.

"The devil take the waltz, my only regret is for the coda—I wish that had been a success." Strauss once said.
Devil -> Satan -> Hell -> Heat -> Flames -> that stuff

A sketch from Monty Python's Flying Circus takes advantage of the piece's fame, featuring, in typical Monty Python fashion, "the exploding version of the Blue Danube."
So the Blue Danube can explode...

Mk
Aug28-05, 12:08 AM
Heh, Wankel. :cool:

These two are real characters; one trails the other and fire trails them both.
Well "real" rules out all my mythology answers.

The Lockheed SR-71 Type A "Blackbird," has exactly two pilots, one in front of the other, and fire trails them both. Correct?

The Smoking Man
Aug28-05, 12:18 AM
Vulcan, (featuring the god Vulcan at his forge) the largest cast iron statue in the world which was first cast for the 1904 St. Louis Exposition, and displayed on top of Red Mountain in 1938.

There may be a connection with the sun: Atomic bombs harness "the power of the sun", Icarus's wings melted because of the sun... exploding Blue Danube? Heat.

Daedalus, Icarus's father arrived safe in Sicily, where he built a temple to Apollo, and hung up his wings, an offering to the god. Apollo, in modern times has became in part confused or equated with Helios, god of the sun.

Vulcanoids are theoretical asteroids that may orbit in a dynamically stable zone between 0.08 and 0.21 astronomical units from the Sun.

1566 Icarus was an asteroid discovered in 1949 by Walter Baade

That backs up the sun idea more.

"The devil take the waltz, my only regret is for the coda—I wish that had been a success." Strauss once said.
Devil -> Satan -> Hell -> Heat -> Flames -> that stuff

A sketch from Monty Python's Flying Circus takes advantage of the piece's fame, featuring, in typical Monty Python fashion, "the exploding version of the Blue Danube."
So the Blue Danube can explode...
I was following most of that and then I remembered the link with extrasolar planets.

Vulcan Camera Project is searching for extrasolar planets using transit photometry

S. J. Icarus - THE Reference

Caltech astronomer Ben Oppenheimer, who helped to discover the apparent brown dwarf, Gliese 229 B, is part of a growing group that would like to define a brown dwarf as an substellar object with the mass of 13 to 80 (or so) Jupiters. While these objects cannot fuse "regular" hydrogen (a single proton nucleus) like stars, they have enough mass to briefly fuse deuterium (hydrogen with a proton-neutron nucleus). Therefore, stellar companions with less than 13 Jupiter masses would be defined as planets.

Quantum Teleportation across the Danube

SETI

Townsend
Aug28-05, 12:30 AM
Well "real" rules out all my mythology answers.

The Lockheed SR-71 Type A "Blackbird," has exactly two pilots, one in front of the other, and fire trails them both. Correct?

To be correct I believe the person in the back is not a pilot but more like a weapons guy..

Mk
Aug28-05, 12:40 AM
To be correct I believe the person in the back is not a pilot but more like a weapons guy..
:confused: That aeroplane doesn't contain nor can hold any weapons, it is only for reconnaissance.

But now that I think about it, the second guy may not be a pilot. But what is he?

The Smoking Man
Aug28-05, 12:49 AM
:confused: That aeroplane doesn't contain nor can hold any weapons, it is only for reconnaissance.

But now that I think about it, the second guy may not be a pilot. But what is he?Officially he is the 'observer' ... he handles the equipment.

Mk
Aug28-05, 12:57 AM
My equipment is for the ladies only.

The Smoking Man
Aug28-05, 01:22 AM
My equipment is for the ladies only.No ... Like another Perter Sellers Movie Chance. "I like to watch." :tongue2:

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 01:58 AM
I thought the second guy was the navigator??

None are correct yet. The 2 characters have 22 friends.

Mk
Aug28-05, 02:01 AM
I thought the second guy was the navigator??

None are correct yet. The 2 characters have 22 friends.
Does it have to do with math? I get where you're going with charachter, and looking for the answer.

Mk
Aug28-05, 02:10 AM
Does it have to do with math? I get where you're going with charachter, and looking for the answer.

Ahhhh HAAAAAAAAAAA! I got it. Alpha and Beta from the alpha-numeric 24 letter greek alphabet!

Mk
Aug28-05, 02:18 AM
:frown: I realized I DON'T have it. But I almost did.

I was going with the characters are letters, so I thought it was either A and B, or C and D, because they are consecutive letters, and the letters in FIRE trail them. But I realized there were 26 letters in the Romans alphabet, so I looked for a 24 letter alphabet, I found the greek one, and Alpha and Beta correspond to A and B, there is no C and D. BUT there is no corresponding FIRE letters, but there are!! Phi, Iota, Elipsion, Eta. Phonetically equivelent.

I now still think it is correct.

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 02:34 AM
You're in the right alphabet (greek). Just say the alphabet aloud and see if you notice a word in there somewhere... oh, and keep the 'fire' clue in mind.

Mk
Aug28-05, 03:42 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! This was a Eureka moment. I said Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! outloud. Hah! ?? Pi-Rho

Good one.

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 04:29 AM
Wow, it's been a long time since I've had that effect on anyone.


A loooooooooong time. :biggrin: Nice work.

pi rho = pyro.

Just something else that I thought was funny about pi and rho: they're backwards. pi sounds like p, looks like r - \pi; rho sounds like r, looks like p - \rho. :smile:

Mk
Aug28-05, 04:54 AM
A member of the wheat tribe and is closely related to barley and wheat (catchers were sometimes in it), and also a kind of lawn grass was on an island somewhat near to Guam and was used as money. What was it colloquially called? This one may be more difficult.

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 06:54 AM
The Catcher in the Rye, funny. cereal??

If so, you can go again. I want a harder question! :tongue2: :biggrin:

Mk
Aug28-05, 06:57 AM
Not quite. You're on the right track though.

(I edited my question a bit because it was un-understandable.)

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 07:18 AM
Oats or oatmeal?

Mk
Aug28-05, 08:03 AM
Rye is right for the first portion, A member of the wheat tribe and is closely related to barley and wheat (catchers were sometimes in it), and also a kind of lawn grass

But the second is a phonetical equivalent, what was it and what is is colloquially called?
was on an island somewhat near to Guam and was used as money. What was it colloquially called?

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 08:29 AM
Rye is right for the first portion, A member of the wheat tribe and is closely related to barley and wheat (catchers were sometimes in it), and also a kind of lawn grass

But the second is a phonetical equivalent, what was it and what is is colloquially called?
was on an island somewhat near to Guam and was used as money. What was it colloquially called?Oh, I get it. Okay, off to search. (oatmeal was used as currency somewhere, BTW. :wink:)

wolram
Aug28-05, 01:29 PM
Vulcan, (featuring the god Vulcan at his forge) the largest cast iron statue in the world which was first cast for the 1904 St. Louis Exposition, and displayed on top of Red Mountain in 1938.

There may be a connection with the sun: Atomic bombs harness "the power of the sun", Icarus's wings melted because of the sun... exploding Blue Danube? Heat.

Daedalus, Icarus's father arrived safe in Sicily, where he built a temple to Apollo, and hung up his wings, an offering to the god. Apollo, in modern times has became in part confused or equated with Helios, god of the sun.

Vulcanoids are theoretical asteroids that may orbit in a dynamically stable zone between 0.08 and 0.21 astronomical units from the Sun.

1566 Icarus was an asteroid discovered in 1949 by Walter Baade

That backs up the sun idea more.

"The devil take the waltz, my only regret is for the coda—I wish that had been a success." Strauss once said.
Devil -> Satan -> Hell -> Heat -> Flames -> that stuff

A sketch from Monty Python's Flying Circus takes advantage of the piece's fame, featuring, in typical Monty Python fashion, "the exploding version of the Blue Danube."
So the Blue Danube can explode...

I thought you had it when you found "vulcan" if you found the connection with "V", and Icarus, "some thing to do with wings", the blue danube is
some thing it carried.

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 01:58 PM
I was going to be nice and not steal this from Mk, but... meh... okay... it's in white - no peeking, Mk.

Am I right, woolie >>Britain's first atomic bomb, the Blue Danube, was to be carried by the Vulcan B.2A, a 'V-bomber'.<< ??

wolram
Aug28-05, 02:01 PM
I was going to be nice and not steal this from Mk, but... meh... okay... it's in white - no peeking, Mk.

Am I right, woolie >>Britain's first atomic bomb, the Blue Danube, was to be carried by the Vulcan B.2A, a 'V-bomber'.<< ??

The bells rining, you got it Rose :biggrin:

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 02:07 PM
The bells rining, you got it Rose :biggrin:Woot! I love it when that happens. But Mk did most of the work, so I want to give him(?) a chance to figure it out. I was confused at first because I thought that The Blue Danube was a popular waltz, but I found out that it was actually a real bomb when it first debuted. :wink: :wink:

Townsend
Aug28-05, 02:07 PM
The bells rining, you got it Rose :biggrin:

Ok then, next question....

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 02:10 PM
Ok then, next question....Mk still has an outstanding question - the rye something one.

wolram
Aug28-05, 02:10 PM
So who is up Rose ??

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 02:11 PM
Here's Mk's question, still unanswered:
Rye is right for the first portion, A member of the wheat tribe and is closely related to barley and wheat (catchers were sometimes in it), and also a kind of lawn grass

But the second is a phonetical equivalent, what was it and what is is colloquially called?
was on an island somewhat near to Guam and was used as money. What was it colloquially called?

wolram
Aug28-05, 02:51 PM
Blast it i knew this one, the money part any ways, now i wont sleep tonight. :grumpy:

Mk
Aug28-05, 04:34 PM
Rye is right for the first portion, A member of the wheat tribe and is closely related to barley and wheat (catchers were sometimes in it), and also a kind of lawn grass

But the second is a phonetical equivalent, what was it and what is is colloquially called?
was on an island somewhat near to Guam and was used as money. What was it colloquially called?
It is a 4 island "volcanic complex." Like Hawai'i.

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 04:54 PM
Ah, you're killing me. Yap State? Stone Money?!? Someone cut limestone into coin-shapes pieces with holes in the middle, but they were lost at sea. When the coins were found, they were considered valuable and were used as currency.
Oops, I got the story somewhat messed up, but whatever. Rye stone? Rice tone? I don't know!!! :cry:

Mk
Aug28-05, 04:55 PM
Ah, you're killing me. Yap State?
Mmm yes. But what about the money?

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 04:59 PM
Eh, I edited.

Mk
Aug28-05, 05:05 PM
Ah, you're killing me. Yap State? Stone Money?!? Someone cut limestone into coin-shapes pieces with holes in the middle, but they were lost at sea. When the coins were found, they were considered valuable and were used as currency.
Oops, I got the story somewhat messed up, but whatever. Rye stone? Rice tone? I don't know!!! :cry:
YES!!! YOU WIN!! MHuah!

Yap stones, Rai in the native language, were huge circular rocks with holes in the middle, and were used as currency and as signs of wealth up to the 1960s. They are the heaviest currency, and the largest has been found with a diameter of 20 ft.

http://www.zeno.ru/showfull.php?photo=13034

Mk
Aug28-05, 05:08 PM
Woot! I love it when that happens. But Mk did most of the work, so I want to give him(?) a chance to figure it out.
Its ok, we are nemisi and play dirty. I have many times posted an answer a few seconds before someone else with the same correct answer.

I was confused at first because I thought that The Blue Danube was a popular waltz, but I found out that it was actually a real bomb when it first debuted. :wink: :wink:
A sketch from Monty Python's Flying Circus takes advantage of the piece's fame, featuring, in typical Monty Python fashion, "the exploding version of the Blue Danube."
So the Blue Danube can explode...
Ahh, so it can explode!

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 05:15 PM
:biggrin: I imagine they knew that when they wrote the sketch. They're so lovable... and speaking of lovable, is that you in the picture? Are you rich? :!!)

I'm exhausted now - that was a good one. Whoever wants to have a go... go.

Mk
Aug28-05, 05:22 PM
:biggrin: I imagine they knew that when they wrote the sketch. They're so lovable... and speaking of lovable, is that you in the picture? Are you rich? :!!)
No that's not me, that's some guy with a big rock. I think I'll post that on the caption competition thread.

Do you ever sleep? I went to bed last night and when I woke up here you were posting like crazy!

In The Library, who was going for what, what did he have to go through to get there, and what shape was the structure he was on?

E³ 2000.

honestrosewater
Aug28-05, 05:37 PM
Do you ever sleep? I went to bed last night and when I woke up here you were posting like crazy!Yeah, I have a 'special' sleep cycle. I slept the other day. I'm actually trying to get some work done, but you guys just draw me back in... and I may have to go watch the hurricane soon. Did you see that thing?!

wolram
Aug29-05, 11:49 AM
No that's not me, that's some guy with a big rock. I think I'll post that on the caption competition thread.

Do you ever sleep? I went to bed last night and when I woke up here you were posting like crazy!

In The Library, who was going for what, what did he have to go through to get there, and what shape was the structure he was on?

E³ 2000.

Is this a clue :confused:

Mk
Aug29-05, 11:29 PM
The first is the question, the second is a clue.

honestrosewater
Aug30-05, 01:34 AM
I have no idea. Is this a book, movie, etc.? Do you mean The Librarian?

Mk
Aug30-05, 02:59 AM
The Library Look up my E3 2000 link.

Another hint:

Noah's Ark went through the same thing.

honestrosewater
Aug30-05, 04:55 AM
Ummm yeah, no clue. Is this a video game? OH, I think I've got it. The Library is a level in Halo?

Mk
Aug30-05, 05:05 AM
Yes! Who was shooting through for what, what did he have to go through to get there, and what shape was the structure he was on?

honestrosewater
Aug30-05, 05:25 AM
343 Guilt Spark is fighting through Flood to get the Index? He goes through a maze of corridors?

Mk
Aug30-05, 06:03 AM
343 Guilt Spark is fighting through Flood to get the Index? He goes through a maze of corridors?
Heh heh, You got the Flood part right, try again. By the structure, I mean the MEGAstructure.

Mk
Aug30-05, 11:22 PM
C'mon, what is it? I'll give you another hint. The main charachter is fighting through the flood. The megastructure has the same name as the game.

honestrosewater
Aug30-05, 11:58 PM
Isn't anyone else playing? :uhh: I'll give it another go in a minute.

TheStatutoryApe
Aug31-05, 12:24 AM
Halo!! Lol!!

honestrosewater
Aug31-05, 01:27 AM
Okay, Master Chief is in Halo (the planet-sized ring-like structure built to contain and study the Flood) and fights through the Flood to get I don't know what. Every place says it's the Index.

wolram
Aug31-05, 07:18 AM
Isn't anyone else playing? :uhh: I'll give it another go in a minute.

I am lost with this one, seems your on your tod rose.

Mk
Aug31-05, 11:29 PM
Okay, Master Chief is in Halo (the planet-sized ring-like structure built to contain and study the Flood) and fights through the Flood to get I don't know what. Every place says it's the Index.
YES!!!! You've won! Ask a question, any question. I won't be here today, for I have a lot of work to do.

honestrosewater
Sep1-05, 01:27 AM
It may be a while before I come up with a clue. Go ahead, anyone else. :biggrin:

wolram
Sep1-05, 01:36 AM
It may be a while before I come up with a clue. Go ahead, anyone else. :biggrin:

Give and take mate cough up :biggrin:

Mk
Sep1-05, 02:17 AM
Am I going to have to make another one? (jokingly)

I didn't think that last one would be that difficult!

wolram
Sep1-05, 03:17 AM
An easy one to time fill.

It is 7 meters high weighs 6 tonnes, built in the Mauyan dynasty.

honestrosewater
Sep1-05, 03:53 AM
An easy one to time fill.

It is 7 meters high weighs 6 tonnes, built in the Mauyan dynasty.The hoops at The Great Ballcourt in Chichén Itzá?
http://www.isourcecom.com/maya/cities/chichenitza/chichenimages/ballcourtgoal.jpg

honestrosewater
Sep1-05, 03:55 AM
Sorry, I can't help but guess!! :cry:

wolram
Sep1-05, 04:26 AM
Sorry, I can't help but guess!! :cry:

Keep guessing, and anti up missy :biggrin:

honestrosewater
Sep1-05, 03:16 PM
Keep guessing, and anti up missy :biggrin:Is it cylindrical?

Okay, I have a clue.
When it went up for auction, it was expected to keep going and going and going...

Mk
Sep1-05, 11:55 PM
An easy one to time fill.

It is 7 meters high weighs 6 tonnes, built in the Mauyan dynasty.
This one's tough, I know what I'm looking for but can't find it...

Mk
Sep2-05, 12:14 AM
Good job wolram, this was the hardest one yet for me.

Situated near Bombay temples were built in the 6th century by the Mauryan dynasty's expert stone carvers. The most philosophical aspect of mighty Shiva is seen in the Shiva temple in Elephanta Cave.

The central attraction here is a twenty-foot (7 meters is about 22 feet) high bust of the deity in three-headed form. The Maheshamurti is built deep into a recess and looms up from the darkness to fill the full height of the cave. This image symbolizes the fierce, feminine and meditative aspects of the great ascetic and the three heads represent Shiva as Aghori, Ardhanarishvara and Mahayogi. Aghori is a terrifying form of Shiva where he is intent on destruction. Ardhanarishvara depicts Shiva as half-man/half-woman signifying the essential unity of the sexes. The Mahayogi posture symbolizes the meditative aspect of the God and here Shiva is shown in his most quiet and serene form.

It weighs six tons.

Honestrosewater's is WAYYY to vague to get.

Mk
Sep2-05, 12:35 AM
Is it cylindrical?

Okay, I have a clue.
When it went up for auction, it was expected to keep going and going and going...
In 2004 there was no talk that I remember of it being the 125th anniversary of the making of the incandescent light bulb... which is still on now, because the filament is so thick.

wolram
Sep2-05, 01:03 AM
Is it cylindrical?

Okay, I have a clue.
When it went up for auction, it was expected to keep going and going and going...

Trotsky :biggrin:

honestrosewater
Sep2-05, 01:41 AM
Oh, no, when you hear the answer, it will seem SO obvious. You will actually kick yourselves, I do prognosticate. :surprised

It's part of an ad for things that are usually not included.

wolram
Sep2-05, 01:41 AM
A picaso painting $104 million ??

honestrosewater
Sep2-05, 02:11 AM
Nope. It beats and twirls...

wolram
Sep2-05, 03:17 AM
Oh, no, when you hear the answer, it will seem SO obvious. You will actually kick yourselves, I do prognosticate. :surprised

It's part of an ad for things that are usually not included.

Batteries ???

honestrosewater
Sep2-05, 03:44 AM
Batteries ???Correctomundo - that's part of it. Now, the thing that went up for auction was what?

When it went up for auction, it was expected to keep going and going and going...
It's part of an ad for things that are usually not included. (batteries)
It beats and twirls... energetically...

wolram
Sep2-05, 04:06 AM
Correctomundo - that's part of it. Now, the thing that went up for auction was what?

When it went up for auction, it was expected to keep going and going and going...
It's part of an ad for things that are usually not included. (batteries)
It beats and twirls... energetically...

The only thing i can think of is that stupid rabbit thing beating a drum
but that did not twirl.

honestrosewater
Sep2-05, 04:23 AM
It did so twirl!!! :tongue2: It twirled the drum stick and spun around. And kept going and going and going...

Also for auction, and the most valuable listed lot, is one of the two original Energizer bunnies.

The rabbits were used to advertise batteries on television and have become one of the most potent advertising symbols of the 20th century.

The rabbit is expected to fetch up to $60,000 (£42,000).
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/988176.stmWay to win it, woolie. Europe. :biggrin:

wolram
Sep2-05, 04:42 AM
It did so twirl!!! :tongue2: It twirled the drum stick and spun around. And kept going and going and going...

Way to win it, woolie. Europe. :biggrin:

Well smack me in the face with a wet kipper, i am completely gob smacked,
crazy people or what :rofl:

wolram
Sep2-05, 05:03 AM
Quote.

it is a triumph more glorious, because far more useful to mankind, than was ever won by conqueror on the field of battle.

What was it.

Mk
Sep2-05, 05:05 AM
I passed my 11th grade History exam.

Mk
Sep3-05, 01:36 AM
So, how are we going to campagin to get more people in this thread? Its not as fun with only three people!! :cry:

I remember back in the day when there was about a hundred people.

wolram
Sep3-05, 01:43 AM
So, how are we going to campagin to get more people in this thread? Its not as fun with only three people!! :cry:

I remember back in the day when there was about a hundred people.

To many voyeurs MK, it is like watching a quiz show on tv, every one shouts
the answers but would not dare go on the show
:rofl:

Any way up i am all out of ideas so if you have some ammo !!

honestrosewater
Sep3-05, 02:08 AM
Whose turn is it? Was that the answer? Is that a clue? I'm lost.

How to attract people? Sex sells! We need some sexier clues.

wolram
Sep3-05, 02:28 AM
Whose turn is it? Was that the answer? Is that a clue? I'm lost.

How to attract people? Sex sells! We need some sexier clues.

EEk, MKs answer fit the clues, so i have to say he wins, well done MK,
the alternate answer is the iron pillar here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_complex#Iron_pillar

Hmm, i am no good at sexy stuff, i wonder who could start it off :rolleyes:

honestrosewater
Sep3-05, 02:54 AM
That iron pillar is pretty sexy. :!!)

wolram
Sep3-05, 04:01 AM
That iron pillar is pretty sexy. :!!)

Well if no one minds,

First mentioed in 1617, diminutive of the personal name Matilda.

If you or MK have a better one please carry on, but this one should have
people itching to have a go. :rofl:

honestrosewater
Sep3-05, 04:18 AM
:surprised I wonder how they keep it on.

wolram
Sep3-05, 04:22 AM
:surprised I wonder how they keep it on.

Fish glue, i think.

wolram
Sep3-05, 06:42 AM
Another quickie.

What connects, 1968 organ, 1986 motorhead.

wolram
Sep4-05, 12:01 AM
Bye, bye thread :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 12:29 AM
I'm still here. Does it have something to do with pipes?

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 12:31 AM
Ooh, 1973 Sleeper?

wolram
Sep4-05, 12:56 AM
Ooh, 1973 Sleeper?

A certain lady was just satisfied :rofl:

wolram
Sep4-05, 01:18 AM
Or was she ????

Mk
Sep4-05, 01:32 AM
or was shee???

wolram
Sep4-05, 01:50 AM
or was shee???

there was an
o:) Mk, HRWwb is getting slow :biggrin:

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 02:49 AM
Who's slow?

In accounting, this is the standard way of recording transactions.

Mk
Sep4-05, 07:06 AM
Who's slow?

In accounting, this is the standard way of recording transactions.
:surprised :surprised

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 08:50 AM
Did you get it??

wolram
Sep4-05, 11:45 AM
By Rose, In accounting, this is the standard way of recording transactions.

:confused: Ahh, i missed this post :grumpy: Your looking for some thing
:!!) sexy.

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 07:55 PM
So did anyone get it? I think it's pretty easy.

wolram
Sep4-05, 08:45 PM
So did anyone get it? I think it's pretty easy.
I built one a few years back, it is still un tested. :rofl:

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 09:14 PM
:rofl: Ahhh... I'm so lost. Was 1973 Sleeper wrong? Your clue was the Orgasmatron, right?

wolram
Sep4-05, 09:21 PM
:rofl: Ahhh... I'm so lost. Was 1973 Sleeper wrong? Your clue was the Orgasmatron, right?

Just pulling your plonker Rose, you are correct :biggrin: next one please.

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 10:29 PM
Just pulling your plonker Rose, you are correct :biggrin: next one please.Okay, did you get this one:
In accounting, this is the standard way of recording transactions.

Townsend
Sep4-05, 10:41 PM
Okay, did you get this one:
In accounting, this is the standard way of recording transactions.

double entry...?

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 11:04 PM
No, thank you. I'm not into that kind of thing. :blushing: :grumpy:

Oh... yes, that's the answer. :biggrin:

Townsend
Sep4-05, 11:12 PM
No, thank you. I'm not into that kind of thing. :blushing: :grumpy:


:bugeye:....is your mind always in the gutter?


Oh... yes, that's the answer. :biggrin:

oh...didn't expect that. Seemed too easy for it to be right. Does this mean I get to post one or has this just become a free for all? And I don't mean a free for all in the way you might be thinking either... :bugeye:

JamesU
Sep4-05, 11:14 PM
you have to post one

Townsend
Sep4-05, 11:21 PM
you have to post one

Oh..geez....guess that will teach me to answer questions.....

This will probably be way too easy for the people here......

What do MIT, princeton and electro-shock therapy have in common?

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 11:47 PM
What do MIT, princeton and electro-shock therapy have in common?Is it dirty? :devil: Bah, I'm too tired. John Nash?

Townsend
Sep4-05, 11:51 PM
Is it dirty? :devil:

:bugeye:

You need to find a partner....


Bah, I'm too tired. John Nash?

Yes....I would say it was too easy but I wouldn't want you to feel like I was putting down your intelligence.....

So, how about I say......that was too easy for someone soo smart :smile:

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 11:58 PM
Yes....I would say it was too easy but I wouldn't want you to feel like I was putting down your intelligence.....

So, how about I say......that was too easy for someone soo smart :smile:Yes, I know you're easy, but who's putting what where? :eek:

You can go again. I don't like thinking of clues. Make it hard this time. :wink:

honestrosewater
Sep4-05, 11:59 PM
Sorry, I don't want to scare you away. I'll be good. o:)

Townsend
Sep5-05, 12:19 AM
Yes, I know you're easy, but who's putting what where? :eek:

You can go again. I don't like thinking of clues. Make it hard this time. :wink:

oh geez......(I will pretend to ignore the make it hard comment)

Umm....ok...

What does an apple, a mollusks, a rose, and Frank Lloyd Wright have in common?

If you get this one easy then you are a genius......

honestrosewater
Sep5-05, 12:29 AM
Pearl (and Perl)?

Townsend
Sep5-05, 12:47 AM
Pearl (and Perl)?

nope...it is not going to be easy...not at all.

Townsend
Sep5-05, 12:57 AM
Let me know when you need some hints.......I don't want to spoil it for you if you don't need any...

honestrosewater
Sep5-05, 01:14 AM
Shell?

Is it more than one thing? Like one thing connects two of them, another thing connects two more, etc.

Townsend
Sep5-05, 01:20 AM
Shell?

Is it more than one thing? Like one thing connects two of them, another thing connects two more, etc.

There is ONE thing they all have in common.

honestrosewater
Sep5-05, 01:24 AM
Oh, yeah, this has to be it: RED?!?

Townsend
Sep5-05, 01:27 AM
Oh, yeah, this has to be it: RED?!?

nope....

here are some more clues....highlight if you want to see them...



Sacrament of the Last Supper

The breeding of rabbits

arildno
Sep5-05, 01:27 AM
Flirtation Alert!!!!

honestrosewater
Sep5-05, 01:48 AM
Okay, I win: PHI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! aka golden ratio, golden number, golden section.

Townsend
Sep5-05, 01:50 AM
Okay, I win: PHI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! aka golden ratio, golden number, golden section.

Very good..........

I am impressed....

honestrosewater
Sep5-05, 02:17 AM
Very good..........

I am impressed....Woohoo!! Wait, you said I would be a genius. I got it pretty easily, mister, and I want my genius title. :grumpy:

What do Rome, Kipling, and Shasta have in common?

arildno
Sep5-05, 02:22 AM
What do Rome, Kipling, and Shasta have in common?
They do not have any letters in common.
If that's not it, it has to be penis.

Townsend
Sep5-05, 02:24 AM
Woohoo!! Wait, you said I would be a genius. I got it pretty easily, mister, and I want my genius title. :grumpy:

What do Rome, Kipling, and Shasta have in common?

You're correct.....hand me your sword and take a knee and I will dub ye "genius."

honestrosewater
Sep5-05, 03:18 AM
You're correct.....hand me your sword and take a knee and I will dub ye "genius."*trying not to turn my dubbing into a series of dirty jokes* Okay, I'm ready. Touch me with your mighty sword! :surprised Woops. *bows silently*

No, it's not a penis.

(that was a legitimate reply to arildno, BTW.)

Another hint: Homer eats super-spicy chili, sees a talking _______? It's not that, but related. :rolleyes:

wolram
Sep5-05, 03:23 AM
AS THO’ again—yea, even once again,
We should rewelcome to our stewardship
The rider with the loose-flung bridle-rein
And chance-plucked twig for whip,

The down-turned hat-brim, and the eyes beneath
Alert, devouring—and the imperious hand
Ordaining matters swiftly to bequeath
Perfect the work he planned.

Mountain ?

honestrosewater
Sep5-05, 03:34 AM
AS THO’ again—yea, even once again,
We should rewelcome to our stewardship
The rider with the loose-flung bridle-rein
And chance-plucked twig for whip,

The down-turned hat-brim, and the eyes beneath
Alert, devouring—and the imperious hand
Ordaining matters swiftly to bequeath
Perfect the work he planned.

Mountain ?Incorrect but enjoyable. :smile:

honestrosewater
Sep5-05, 03:38 AM
Disney...........

wolram
Sep5-05, 03:51 AM
Tarzan ???

wolram
Sep5-05, 03:54 AM
Or the jungle book.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Tarzan#The_Tarzan_story

honestrosewater
Sep5-05, 04:07 AM
Or the jungle book.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Tarzan#The_Tarzan_storyDing, ding, ding!! But that's only part of it. Someone in The Jungle Book has something in common with another character named Shasta and two people associated with Rome.

wolram
Sep5-05, 05:20 AM
Romulus and Remus, raised by a wolf, became the founders of Rome.

honestrosewater
Sep5-05, 05:33 AM
Romulus and Remus, raised by a wolf, became the founders of Rome.Yeah, okay, you got it. There's a book called Shasta of the Wolves too. They're all stories of feral children who were raised by wolves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_children_in_mythology_and_fiction

Batter up!

wolram
Sep5-05, 06:22 AM
Ok, what connects, rocket, harris and scarp ?

Do you give in.

matthyaouw
Sep5-05, 07:00 AM
Was it the failed attempt at a postal rocket in the Western Isles?

arildno
Sep5-05, 07:16 AM
Ok, what connects, rocket, harris and scarp ?

Do you give in.
Of course not; it is the frenulum, right?

matthyaouw
Sep5-05, 07:19 AM
I'm not even going to ask how you came to that conclusion...

arildno
Sep5-05, 07:20 AM
I'm not even going to ask how you came to that conclusion...
Is it wrong???

matthyaouw
Sep5-05, 07:37 AM
http://www.postalheritage.org.uk/history/transport/air_rocket.html
I think that fits the clue slightly better.

I suppose it's my turn.

Standing 7 metres tall, this imposing figure seems out of this world. It towers over the place it terrorised over 100 years go.

arildno
Sep5-05, 07:44 AM
Evidently, a 7 metres long phallus on rampage WOULD have terrorised any place it chose to visit, but since I've been wrong before, I'm not 100% certain it is a phallus.

Is it Big Ben instead?
(No, that's even bigger; I'm lost..)

arildno
Sep5-05, 07:47 AM
http://www.postalheritage.org.uk/history/transport/air_rocket.html
I think that fits the clue slightly better.

I suppose it's my turn.

Standing 7 metres tall, this imposing figure seems out of this world. It towers over the place it terrorised over 100 years go.
It is Queen Victoria, gazing out over Balmoral. :approve:

matthyaouw
Sep5-05, 07:52 AM
Nope, not it.
I'm now quite terrified at the prospect of a 7 meter penis rampaging around.... If I have nightmares, I'm blaming you!

wolram
Sep5-05, 07:59 AM
Was it the failed attempt at a postal rocket in the Western Isles?

Yes and so quick :biggrin:

arildno
Sep5-05, 08:05 AM
Nope, not it.
I'm now quite terrified at the prospect of a 7 meter penis rampaging around.... If I have nightmares, I'm blaming you!
Can I wish you sweet dreams instead?

wolram
Sep5-05, 08:57 AM
There are just so many statues etc, i thought Lenin or napoleon but no luck
yet,

matthyaouw
Sep5-05, 09:27 AM
"Standing 7 metres tall, this imposing figure seems out of this world. It towers over the place it terrorised over 100 years go."

Note emphasis

matthyaouw
Sep5-05, 03:37 PM
No takers?
It first terrorised the area in 1898 (perhaps not literally), and made another more noteable appearence in 1938, terrorising people in a more literal sense.

wolram
Sep5-05, 04:35 PM
No takers?
It first terrorised the area in 1898 (perhaps not literally), and made another more noteable appearence in 1938, terrorising people in a more literal sense.
Still trying mathyaouw, but is outside my area.

wolram
Sep5-05, 04:47 PM
Zepplin ???

JamesU
Sep5-05, 04:56 PM
something alien? an alien perhaps?

Smurf
Sep5-05, 10:48 PM
honchbunkers? though I don't know what they have to do with 100 years ago.

Townsend
Sep5-05, 11:07 PM
The Woking Martian

http://www.cix.co.uk/~sjbradshaw/martian/

Smurf
Sep5-05, 11:08 PM
haha, of course, H.G. Wells publications. The radio broadcast in 1938 that fooled so many people into thinking they were under attack by aliens :rofl:

Townsend
Sep5-05, 11:13 PM
It weighs over 200 tonnes.

It was completed over a decade ago

It is built on an island

Your hint is, swastika....

Shouldn't be too hard....good luck :smile:

Smurf
Sep5-05, 11:16 PM
manhattan project?

Townsend
Sep5-05, 11:17 PM
manhattan project?

no........interesting suggestion though...

Smurf
Sep5-05, 11:18 PM
hmmm, well I havn't a clue so I'm shooting in the dark here but does it have something to do with a big canon and the english channel?

Townsend
Sep5-05, 11:21 PM
hmmm, well I havn't a clue so I'm shooting in the dark here but does it have something to do with a big canon and the english channel?

sorry.....

I don't want to give you any more hints.....you have more than enough to figure it out... :smile:

wolram
Sep6-05, 12:03 AM
On July 4, 1889 the American community in Paris offered the French people
a gift of a bronze replica of the Statue of Liberty, 1/4 scale,
about 35 feet high. It still stands now, on Ile des Cygnes an island in the
Seine River, next to the Pont de Grenelle, a bridge crossing the Seine,
1.5 km downstrean (South) of the Eiffel Tower.

???

JamesU
Sep6-05, 12:04 AM
ooooooooooo

Townsend
Sep6-05, 12:13 AM
On July 4, 1889 the American community in Paris offered the French people
a gift of a bronze replica of the Statue of Liberty, 1/4 scale,
about 35 feet high. It still stands now, on Ile des Cygnes an island in the
Seine River, next to the Pont de Grenelle, a bridge crossing the Seine,
1.5 km downstrean (South) of the Eiffel Tower.

???


Let me refine some of my clues a bit....

It was over completed over a decade ago and less than 20 yrs ago.

It is more than 200 tonnes and less then 250 tonnes.....

Probably the most important clue is the swastika.....

TheStatutoryApe
Sep6-05, 12:38 AM
I've run it through google and not really found anything that looks right. Maybe one more little clue?

Townsend
Sep6-05, 12:40 AM
I've run it through google and not really found anything that looks right. Maybe one more little clue?

The swastika I'm talking about is not the same as the Nazi swastika.....

Townsend
Sep6-05, 12:43 AM
Couple more:

The island is pretty small....I had to take a subway to get there, and I was nowhere near the United States...

wolram
Sep6-05, 12:45 AM
The swastika I'm talking about is not the same as the Nazi swastika.....

I guessed that, the swastika has lots of meanings, it relates to Budda also.

Townsend
Sep6-05, 12:46 AM
I guessed that, the swastika has lots of meanings, it relates to Budda also.

.....go from there....

wolram
Sep6-05, 12:55 AM
.....go from there....

This one ??

http://www.geocities.com/asiaglobe/gallery/hk-buddha.htm

Townsend
Sep6-05, 12:56 AM
This one ??

http://www.geocities.com/asiaglobe/gallery/hk-buddha.htm

yep...that's the one.

wolram
Sep6-05, 01:41 AM
Derived from "Hard Lightning" , the people are cheese on toast ?

Mk
Sep6-05, 04:58 AM
I guessed that, the swastika has lots of meanings, it relates to Budda also.
Damn, I knew that one off the top of my head! Should have been PFing more!

wolram
Sep6-05, 05:03 AM
Damn, I knew that one off the top of my head! Should have been PFing more!

Yep, it took me ages and several wrong turns, i suppose a certain lady would
have also solved it a lot quicker.

matthyaouw
Sep6-05, 05:08 AM
Derived from "Hard Lightning" , the people are cheese on toast ?

Something to do with the Welsh... And Arthur's sword...

matthyaouw
Sep6-05, 05:12 AM
Perhaps the village of Caledfwlch (an old name for his sword)

wolram
Sep6-05, 05:12 AM
Something to do with the Welsh... And Arthur's sword...

And it is ?

matthyaouw
Sep6-05, 05:14 AM
Caledfwlch/Caladbolg/Caledbwlch?

wolram
Sep6-05, 05:20 AM
Caledfwlch/Caladbolg/Caledbwlch?
:biggrin: , your shot.

matthyaouw
Sep6-05, 05:28 AM
I have to go, so someone else can take my turn.

wolram
Sep6-05, 06:40 AM
Any one have one ?

arildno
Sep6-05, 06:44 AM
Derived from "Hard Lightning" , the people are cheese on toast ?
Well, of course people are servable as cheese on toast if they get zapped in the butt by a lightning stroke; but somehow, I am unable to progress further..

wolram
Sep6-05, 07:01 AM
Upon insertion, the handle was turned, causing the spoon-shaped lobes to slowly separate.

Hot fruit??? ouch.

matthyaouw
Sep6-05, 07:04 AM
Upon insertion, the handle was turned, causing the spoon-shaped lobes to slowly separate.


Oh no, Arildno is going to have something inappropriate to say about this! :wink:

wolram
Sep6-05, 07:17 AM
Oh no, Arildno is going to have something inappropriate to say about this! :wink:
:rofl: :rofl: you got it all ready ?

arildno
Sep6-05, 07:18 AM
Upon insertion, the handle was turned, causing the spoon-shaped lobes to slowly separate.

Hot fruit??? ouch.
Really; they are called valves, not lobes; besides, they are not spoon-shaped.
I have but one option, namely to issue the:

Concupiscence Alert!!

wolram
Sep6-05, 07:48 AM
Upon insertion, the handle was turned, causing the spoon-shaped lobes to slowly separate.

Hot fruit??? ouch.

Arildno if you have the answer put up if not---------

arildno
Sep6-05, 07:50 AM
Perhaps I don't have the answer.
What is it?

wolram
Sep6-05, 07:52 AM
Perhaps I don't have the answer.
What is it?

It is your job to find out, if you are able to :uhh:

wolram
Sep6-05, 09:11 AM
Upon insertion, the handle was turned, causing the spoon-shaped lobes to slowly separate.

Hot fruit??? ouch.

the clue once again. :biggrin:

arildno
Sep6-05, 09:14 AM
Sticking a key into a key-hole, turn the handle, and then the locky-things separates opening the door?

Oh my god, my linguistic level has been wollified.. :cry:

wolram
Sep6-05, 09:16 AM
Sticking a key into a key-hole, turn the handle, and then the locky-things separates opening the door?

Oh my god, my linguistic level has been wollified.. :cry:

Way off mark, you may enjoy this cold. :devil:

arildno
Sep6-05, 09:46 AM
"Hot fruit??? ouch."
Strawberry-pain?
Banana-whimper??

I give up..

hypatia
Sep6-05, 10:17 AM
or a midevil torture devise, called the Pear. Or a modern day examination speculum.

wolram
Sep6-05, 10:23 AM
or a midevil torture devise, called the Pear. Or a modern day examination speculum.

You are right Hypatia. :biggrin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear_of_Anguish

Your go.

arildno
Sep6-05, 10:36 AM
You are right Hypatia. :biggrin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear_of_Anguish
Your go.
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wolram
Sep6-05, 11:01 AM
Seems you enjoyed that one arildno, i may have a replica made. :devil:

Any one have a clue ?

hypatia
Sep6-05, 01:10 PM
1. The armature: The body is a straight tube attached to two bulbs, approximately the same size, one at either end.

wolram
Sep6-05, 01:26 PM
Dippy Bird

If that is correct you have another go, i have made one or two of these. :biggrin:

hypatia
Sep6-05, 05:03 PM
Brat, yes it is

hypatia
Sep6-05, 05:10 PM
Recipes call for water, plus sugar, corn syrup, butter, cornstarch, and flavoring, but nobody makes it using ocean brine.

wolram
Sep6-05, 05:15 PM
Brat, yes it is

:surprised :tongue2:

Townsend
Sep6-05, 05:15 PM
Recipes call for water, plus sugar, corn syrup, butter, cornstarch, and flavoring, but nobody makes it using ocean brine.

saltwater taffy?

hypatia
Sep6-05, 05:20 PM
You folks are too good for me..yep
eh gads the smilies are makeing this page lag!

Townsend
Sep6-05, 05:26 PM
Religions and super volcanos.....what is it?

edit...to make it easier I'll add...old religions and super volcanos...

wolram
Sep6-05, 06:20 PM
Dragon ????

JamesU
Sep6-05, 06:24 PM
You are right Hypatia. :biggrin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear_of_Anguish

Your go.
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Townsend
Sep6-05, 06:27 PM
Dragon ????

No...

Where is a super volcano located? What might you find there? Your looking for something there that has a name that has common thread with religions both new and old...so as not to confuse you....

JamesU
Sep6-05, 06:29 PM
old faithful?

Townsend
Sep6-05, 06:30 PM
old faithful?

yep... :smile:

JamesU
Sep6-05, 06:30 PM
Very cryptic. :smile: let me go find one

JamesU
Sep6-05, 06:36 PM
in 1908, a worker's mistake made a clean return to the surface, and he was responsible for inventing what?

Townsend
Sep6-05, 07:03 PM
in 1908, a worker's mistake made a clean return to the surface, and he was responsible for inventing what?

spectroheliograph

JamesU
Sep6-05, 07:09 PM
I have no idea what that is.

wolram
Sep7-05, 09:05 AM
in 1908, a worker's mistake made a clean return to the surface, and he was responsible for inventing what?

I need a clue yomamma.

Mk
Sep7-05, 11:44 PM
Lemme have a chance first.

Mk
Sep7-05, 11:50 PM
Yay I got it!

The tea bag was accidentally invented by American tea importer Thomas Sullivan in 1908. He had sent samples of his tea out to customers packaged in silk bags. Customers put the entire bags into the pot, thinking that was what Sullivan had intended.

JamesU
Sep8-05, 12:00 AM
no, sorry. maybe I should've emphasized 'clean'

Mk
Sep8-05, 12:05 AM
No...

Where is a super volcano located? What might you find there? Your looking for something there that has a name that has common thread with religions both new and old...so as not to confuse you....
Aira Caldera, Ky?sh?, Japan
Aso, Ky?sh?, Japan
Campi Flegrei, Campania, Italy
Kikai Caldera, Ry?ky? Islands, Japan
Long Valley Caldera, California, United States
Lake Taupo, North Island, New Zealand
Lake Toba, Sumatra, Indonesia
Valle Grande, New Mexico, United States
Yellowstone Caldera, Wyoming, United States
Brazilian Highlands, Brazil
Columbia River Plateau, United States
Deccan Traps, India
Siberian Traps, Russian Federation

Old Faithful, geyser is in Yellowstone National Park!

Mk
Sep8-05, 12:07 AM
Oh, its already been solved.

Mk
Sep8-05, 12:13 AM
I am requesting a clue.

JamesU
Sep8-05, 12:17 AM
'clean' 'return to the surface'

Mk
Sep8-05, 12:18 AM
'clean' 'return to the surface'
Well I mean ones that aren't in the question!

JamesU
Sep8-05, 12:43 AM
'elephants'
'clean'
'rise to the surface'

get something out of that

Zygotic Embryo
Sep8-05, 01:14 PM
...i Give Up.

matthyaouw
Sep8-05, 04:36 PM
Come on, we need another clue.

hypatia
Sep8-05, 04:49 PM
Ivory soap

Mk
Sep8-05, 11:49 PM
Ivory soap
w00t! That HAS to be it.

Ivory is a bar soap which is one of the best-known products of the Procter & Gamble Company. It is whipped with air in its production so that it floats in water. The soap was made to float only after a worker accidentally left the mixing machine on for too long. The company decided to use the supposedly ruined material and hoped that the buying public wouldn't notice, but after they got so many fan letters, they decided to switch to the new recipe!

JamesU
Sep8-05, 11:52 PM
yes, hypatia

hypatia
Sep9-05, 12:47 AM
It looks like a lumbering combine harvester, made to harvest clouds.

JamesU
Sep9-05, 12:52 AM
is that your clue? it makes no sense

hypatia
Sep9-05, 01:01 AM
it has a wing

wolram
Sep9-05, 03:26 AM
It looks like a lumbering combine harvester, made to harvest clouds.

I think it is that machine that shakes trees to gather ?? it has a net like thing
that folds around the tree to catch ???

I can not remember :blushing:

wolram
Sep9-05, 03:39 AM
Olive picker machine ??

Mk
Sep9-05, 04:39 AM
Cloud harvester... has a wing...

I remember well the fog harvesters used in the mountains of Nepal (?? I forget where, somewhere high altitude) they're HUGE but have no wings.

hypatia
Sep9-05, 07:31 AM
it has a fan

wolram
Sep9-05, 08:07 AM
It sounds like a Winnowing machine but they are usually staitonary, i know
they have a fan.

hypatia
Sep9-05, 09:38 AM
It was in a 2004 issue of The New York Times Magazine

wolram
Sep9-05, 10:56 AM
It was in a 2004 issue of The New York Times Magazine

Is the sail a ,sail board, and the wing some thing to direct the grain ?

wolram
Sep9-05, 12:13 PM
I have made this one really tough so suffer :rofl:

You will not be able to push this car made by a russian bell maker, is that
true or just sour grapes ??

wolram
Sep10-05, 12:28 AM
I though it would be to hard :rofl:

Mk
Sep10-05, 12:44 AM
Swedish designer Monica Förster said she often stares at clouds outside her airplane window and wonders what it would be like to step inside one. After learning that cumulus clouds form in the morning, then dissipate at night, she decided to create a nylon "cloud" that could serve as a quiet meeting space by day and collapse at night. Förster's Cloud is 8 ft. tall and 18 ft. long. A fan inside its carrying case inflates it in 3 min. It weighs 33 lbs.

In 2004 Time Magazine.

Mk
Sep10-05, 12:48 AM
I got an idea... how about teams competing? That would be interesting, we could use telephone, PMs and instant messaging to communicate between teams, and stuff and awesome!

wolram
Sep10-05, 12:54 AM
I got an idea... how about teams competing? That would be interesting, we could use telephone, PMs and instant messaging to communicate between teams, and stuff and awesome!

Erm, MK there is only three or four of us :rolleyes: There seems to be a dearth
of brains in this forum :cool:

Mk
Sep10-05, 12:58 AM
Of course after the draft is set in play, there will be hundreds... thousands... millions!! MOO HOO HAHAHAHAH :devil:

Mk
Sep10-05, 01:00 AM
Ok, I need one small tiny hint. :frown:

Does it have to do with Schilovsky?

wolram
Sep10-05, 01:04 AM
Ok, I need one small tiny hint. :frown:

Does it have to do with Schilovsky?

2 tsars. together

matthyaouw
Sep12-05, 04:02 PM
Clue me! (extra characters)

wolram
Sep12-05, 04:14 PM
Clue me! (extra characters)

big bang ?

Mk
Sep12-05, 11:56 PM
This is too hard :frown:

JamesU
Sep12-05, 11:58 PM
what''s the clue?

Mk
Sep13-05, 12:05 AM
You will not be able to push this car made by a russian bell maker, is that
true or just sour grapes?

JamesU
Sep13-05, 12:18 AM
does it have to do with Aleksandr Freidman?

wolram
Sep13-05, 02:35 AM
does it have to do with Aleksandr Freidman?

Change one letter and you have the answer.

wolram
Sep13-05, 11:45 AM
No one get it :frown: :bugeye: :surprised

Mk
Sep13-05, 03:53 PM
Aleksandr Friedmann!

Smurf
Sep13-05, 04:05 PM
Aleksandr Freidmann!

Aleksandr Friedman!

Townsend
Sep13-05, 04:19 PM
Alexander Friedman?

Mk
Sep13-05, 11:29 PM
If that's right, I got it first!

JamesU
Sep13-05, 11:33 PM
I got it first, but I'll let you have it.


I figured it out :mad:

Smurf
Sep13-05, 11:59 PM
Alexandr Friedman
Alexander Friedmann
Alexandr Freidman
Alexandr Freidmann

(I got the name right!)

Townsend
Sep14-05, 07:58 PM
So where the hell is Wolram?

Ok...someone go!!!

We can't wait for wolly...

JamesU
Sep14-05, 09:40 PM
okay...

This popular game was developed in the 15th century, back then, it was simaler to croquet

Townsend
Sep14-05, 09:46 PM
okay...

This popular game was developed in the 15th century, back then, it was simaler to croquet

Golf........

JamesU
Sep14-05, 09:48 PM
nope. that would be WAY too easy

Townsend
Sep14-05, 09:53 PM
nope. that would be WAY too easy

I figured but decided I might as well get the obvious out of the way...

So how about shuffleboard?

JamesU
Sep14-05, 09:54 PM
wrong again

Townsend
Sep14-05, 10:00 PM
Billiards.....

JamesU
Sep14-05, 10:02 PM
you win. too easy :redface:

Townsend
Sep14-05, 10:06 PM
you win. too easy :redface:

I can't think of anything good.... :frown:

Anyone who wants to go can.....

Mk
Sep15-05, 12:02 AM
Documented evidence of tsu chu found in a Chinese military manual written about 2nd century BC describes a practice known as ?? or ?? (on the right track: American ________). The Dublin University Club was founded in the same year what instrument was patented? (on the right track: secant is the extension of the second syllable). What was it?

wolram
Sep15-05, 06:10 AM
So where the hell is Wolram?

Ok...someone go!!!

We can't wait for wolly...

Sorry, i thought the thread had died, the ansewer was.
Tsar Pushka (Царь-пушка in Russian) is a huge cannon, founded in 1586 by a Russian founding master Andrey Chokhov. Weight - 40 tons, length - 5,34 m, calibre - 890 mm, external diameter - 1200 mm.
Andrey Chokhov, was also a bell maker.
Sour grapes = grape shot.

Mk
Sep17-05, 07:17 PM
Documented evidence of tsu chu found in a Chinese military manual written about 2nd century BC describes a practice known as ?? or ??. The Dublin University Club of this was founded in the same year what musical instrument was patented? What was it?

Mk
Jan25-06, 03:27 AM
Its over 100 meters long
could travel over 400 km/hr
weighed 540 tons fully loaded
had 10 engines
could travel over land, water, snow, ice.

WHAT WAS IT??

Ivan Seeking
Jan25-06, 04:02 AM
Hehe

We already did this one on page three or so.
The Ekranoplan!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekranoplan

Ivan Seeking
Jan25-06, 04:13 AM
It is the most successful Canadian invention of its kind and is known world-wide.

Mk
Jan25-06, 04:15 AM
The circle-shaped bacon? Maple syrup? The tree?

The dildo? All were pretty successful.

Mk
Jan25-06, 04:15 AM
Kerosene? Electron microscope?

Ivan Seeking
Jan25-06, 04:16 AM
no no no...well, maybe the tree. :biggrin:

Ivan Seeking
Jan25-06, 04:16 AM
no no... ...

Ivan Seeking
Jan25-06, 04:17 AM
first one sold for a sixty dollar loss

Mk
Jan25-06, 04:19 AM
The Television!!!

Ivan Seeking
Jan25-06, 04:20 AM
NO!!!

:biggrin:

Mk
Jan25-06, 04:24 AM
WTF!!! Television wasn't a good enough invention? What do you want? The wheel? Coke?

Ivan Seeking
Jan25-06, 04:29 AM
first conceived of in 1979

Television was invented in about seven places at once.

Mk
Jan25-06, 04:33 AM
I hope its not Trivial Pursuit.

Ivan Seeking
Jan25-06, 04:37 AM
I hope its not Trivial Pursuit.

I'm sorry to shatter your hopes, yes.

Mk
Jan25-06, 04:57 AM
4!=24
5!=120
6!=720
(Number of colons in a MAC address)!=?

BobG
Jan25-06, 01:29 PM
4!=24
6!=720
(Number of colons in a MAC address)!=?
1111000 (or, alternatively, 78)

Mk
Jan25-06, 03:02 PM
No, that's not quite right.

Mk
Jan26-06, 03:42 AM
What the hell? Don't tell me I killed the thread again!!

matthyaouw
Jan26-06, 04:02 AM
It ain't dead yeat. Just clue us some more.

Mk
Jan26-06, 04:25 AM
Look up MAC address on your computer or on the internet, this one, you don't have to think a lot. Unless you don't know what the "!" means.

honestrosewater
Jan26-06, 04:30 AM
You guys suck. 120.

Hey, why did you edit that? :tongue2: In Windows, the colons are hyphens, BTW. For others, they're periods or spaces. Or did I miss something? Is it 1? Do I win? It's either 1 or 120. Hurry up and tell me!!!! :devil: Heh, I didn't realize I missed this game so much.

Mk
Jan26-06, 04:35 AM
Honestrosewater wins!!!

I don't know what you mean with the hyphens :confused:

Wikipedia says its colons too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address

honestrosewater
Jan26-06, 04:53 AM
Nevermind, as long as I won, it's not important. :biggrin: How about a backwards clue?

They are not housed in a piece of fruit. They are not strings. They are not false.

Mk
Jan26-06, 05:14 AM
That's confusing! Let me think about that one. Give me 5 minutes.

Mk
Jan26-06, 05:21 AM
To keep me on the right track:

Does it have to do with coconuts?
Does it have to do with security?
Does it have to do with olives?
Does it have to do with stringed musical instruments?

Or am I thinking too hard?

I'm expecting a no, no, no, and no.

Mk
Jan26-06, 05:28 AM
Ah! Its been over 14!!

honestrosewater
Jan26-06, 05:40 AM
No, no, no, and not really. The fruit and strings are misnomers.

They have no hands, but they wave and slap each other around a lot.

Mk
Jan26-06, 05:46 AM
Well, here's how I've been thinking:
You said a backward clue, so first I put the clues backwards.

They are not false They are not strings They are not housed in a piece of fruit

Well, they look the same to me, so I made them even more backwards. This time I did the words.

False not are they Strings not are they Fruit of piece a in housed not are they.

I saw fruit of piece. Fruit of peace. The fruit of peace is security. Drupes are fruits. I looked at strings. An olive is a "fibrous drupe." The olive is quite the fruit of peace (olive branch), and fruits are houses for the seeds. Olive strings are a kind of string for your cello, or violin or whatever. http://www.stringworks.com/discussion/messages/858/2628.html?1109281537 http://store.musicbasics.com/pirolviolstr.html But the false part doesn't fit in.

Mk
Jan26-06, 06:13 AM
Ok well, I'm going to bed. Goodnight! All I can think of is electromagnetic wave interference with the waves and slapping anyway.

honestrosewater
Jan26-06, 02:11 PM
:rofl: Yes, you're thinking too hard. Nothing is hidden in the clues -- you can take them at face value. :smile:

They are not housed in a piece of fruit. They are not strings. They are not false.

The fruit and strings are misnomers.

They have no hands, but they wave and slap each other around a lot... when they *cough* venturi too close for comfort, as Bernoulli could have told you.

Gokul43201
Jan26-06, 04:22 PM
Not some kind of wind sock, is it ?

honestrosewater
Jan26-06, 04:26 PM
Not some kind of wind sock, is it ?No. You do normally blow or suck wind through them though. Just stop, take a breath, and think about it for a sec. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Gokul43201
Jan26-06, 04:28 PM
Guess I was thinking about the wrong kind of instrument then, eh ? Hmmm....I wasn't paying attention to one key word in your clues : "they" !

Gale
Jan26-06, 04:29 PM
i think i must be a pervert...

Gokul43201
Jan26-06, 04:34 PM
My next guess (not a strong one, I might add) : lips ("lips of truth" from the Bible)

tribdog
Jan26-06, 05:15 PM
of course it's lips.

Mk
Jan26-06, 06:03 PM
Uvula? They can be split.

honestrosewater
Jan26-06, 06:33 PM
Nope. They are between the lips and lungs.

The fruit is normally larger in men than in women.

"venturi" was not a typo.

Gale
Jan26-06, 06:38 PM
adams apple

Danger
Jan26-06, 07:13 PM
Just because of the 'string' reference, I was thinking of vocal cords, but I can't for the life of me figure out the rest of the clue.

Hurkyl
Jan26-06, 07:17 PM
Something you might do with your vocal cords is to sing false____... :tongue: I'm sure venturi is a musical term, but I'm too lazy to google it.

Gale
Jan26-06, 07:32 PM
adams apple is your voice box

Danger
Jan26-06, 09:35 PM
Actually it's the thyroid cartilage, also called the laryngeal prominence. :tongue:

Mk
Jan26-06, 11:11 PM
Darn it, Gale got it.

Mk
Jan27-06, 03:36 AM
Ah its been a whole day without a question!!! :surprised I'm going insane!!

Ivan Seeking
Jan27-06, 04:02 AM
It first moved on July 2nd, 1998, and heralds the new age of synthetic [artificial] telekinesis.

honestrosewater
Jan27-06, 03:55 PM
Okay, sorry, had connection problems earlier. Yes, Gale, Adam's apple was part of it. Danger got another BIG part. (They aren't strings/cords.)

If no one gets it after this, shame. :tongue2:

They are not housed in a piece of fruit. -- that lump in your throat called your Adam's apple is not actually an apple :surprised but the anterior portion of the thyroid cartilage, part of your larynx, which does house these things.

They are not strings. -- though they were called vocal cords (and sometimes still are), they aren't shaped like cords or violin strings and they don't function the same way either; they're more like lips than anything else I can think of.

They are not false. -- you have a pair of false ones. I want the true ones.

They have no hands, but they wave and slap each other around a lot... when they *cough* venturi too close for comfort, as Bernoulli could have told you. -- when you close them just tightly enough and try to force air through them, from your lungs and up your trachea, the air eventually pushes them apart, starting at the bottom. It flows through the space between them, the glottis, which is narrower than the trachea. The velocity of the air flow increases as it passes through the glottis, which is accompanied by a decrease in its pressure, causing a partial vacuum, which pulls them closed again, starting at the bottom. This cycle, a mucosal wave, repeats and is an example of the Venturi Effect (which happens, e.g. in a Venturi tube) and is described by Bernoulli's Law. Or something like that; physics isn't my thing, and I really need to get it straighter, but it's just a game.

You do normally blow or suck wind through them though. -- When you breathe, speak, cough, etc.

They are your VOCAL ______.

Mk
Jan27-06, 04:15 PM
Vocal folds.

honestrosewater
Jan27-06, 04:38 PM
Vocal folds.Yay, Mk! :biggrin:

honestrosewater
Jan27-06, 04:44 PM
It first moved on July 2nd, 1998, and heralds the new age of synthetic [artificial] telekinesis.Bah, must go. First guess: Sony's ESPER Laboratory??

Mk
Jan27-06, 07:11 PM
Ok, while I'm making mine, I'll take a crack at his:

In 1998, the US Postal Service used British hovercrafts to haul mail, freight, and passengers from Bethel, Alaska to and from eight small villages along the Kuskokwim River.

A frog? A spider?

Mk
Jan27-06, 07:29 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Vulpes_vulpes_laying_in_snow.jpg

Awww its so cute!! I bet if that little Vulpes vulpes were trotting around in the Libiyan capital it might find some some submarines at what approximate longitude and latitude, on the coast?

I recommend...
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/102/yarn8vj.png

Gokul43201
Jan27-06, 09:06 PM
Yikes ! Is that your question ?

Mk
Jan27-06, 09:11 PM
Lol, if you have no idea I'll give you a hint I guess.

Ivan Seeking
Jan27-06, 09:37 PM
Bah, must go. First guess: Sony's ESPER Laboratory??

No, but you have the right idea.

Mk
Jan28-06, 02:57 AM
I really don't know what you mean. Does this have to do with Art Bell at all? (I don't like George Noory)

Ivan Seeking
Jan28-06, 05:15 AM
No

I don't care for George either.

honestrosewater
Jan28-06, 07:48 PM
More clues! :cry:

Mk, is that a trick question? 57*N 12*E?

Mk
Jan28-06, 11:44 PM
In order:
You must unscramble the letters.

They form two words, and some letters are rotated, or backwards. :devil:

The Mac version recently came out.

Make sure you've turned on the right extra layers!

Check on the coast, a bit to the East.

honestrosewater
Jan29-06, 12:00 AM
In order:
You must unscramble the letters.

They form two words, and some letters are rotated, or backwards. :devil:

The Mac version recently came out.Yeah, Google Earth, right? I got that much.
Make sure you've turned on the right extra layers!

Check on the coast, a bit to the East.Bah... guess I have to get it. Red fox, Tripoli, submarines... hmmm...

Mk
Jan29-06, 12:07 AM
Yep. :smile:

honestrosewater
Jan29-06, 12:39 AM
Oh, yeah, who's the master?

The Foxtrot Subs in Tripoli are at approximately 32*54' N 13*13' E

Mk
Jan29-06, 01:17 AM
No, not quite.

You see, I think you are looking at the wrong Tripoli. I meant the one in Tanzania. :frown:

Ha ha, just kidding. You win!!

Ivan Seeking
Jan29-06, 03:34 AM
It is right in front of you.

honestrosewater
Jan29-06, 04:04 AM
It is right in front of you.Are you watching me again?

Something on our computer screens?

Another trick question? A LASER mouse?

Ivan Seeking
Jan29-06, 04:10 AM
no
maybe, maybe not.
no

Quick definitions (telekinesis)

noun: the power to move something by thinking about it without the application of physical force.

I would end the sentence after "by thinking about it", but the defintion given works well enough in this case.

Mk
Jan29-06, 04:23 AM
I can type better by thinking about it, then trying.

The little mouse on the screen, I can move that like by thinking about it.

Ivan Seeking
Jan29-06, 04:37 AM
Okay, close enough. A quadraplegic first moved a cursor on a computer screen by thinking about it[correctly]. Of course, in principle that's all that you need to connect to physical systems and control them with thought; hence artificial telekinesis.

Mk, what do you mean that you can move the cursor by thinking about it?

Mk
Jan29-06, 04:51 AM
What's going on here? It looks like you congratulated me, then asked what I meant.

honestrosewater
Jan29-06, 04:55 AM
Okay, close enough. A quadraplegic first moved a cursor on a computer screen by thinking about it[correctly]. Of course, in principle that's all that you need to connect to physical systems and control them with thought; hence artificial telekinesis.

Mk, what do you mean that you can move the cursor by thinking about it?Oh, I should have gotten that; I even saw a show about those sensor implants. Cool stuff.

Someone else can go while I think of a clue from Mk's. :smile:

Mk
Jan29-06, 02:57 PM
No, no no. Honestrosewater gets a turn. I didn't know the answer anyway.

honestrosewater
Jan29-06, 05:52 PM
I don't have anymore clues. :yuck: Okay, you must wear masks and can't play the same way twice. What do you call a follower of the theological system developed by the person who the boy who this game is named after is named after?

Mk
Jan29-06, 10:34 PM
What kind of culture is this game played in?

I need a hint.

honestrosewater
Jan30-06, 12:25 AM
I imagine it helps to play at least partially in your imagination. Ball appears in game's name.

Mk
Jan30-06, 04:11 AM
The boy is Confucius, and the religion is Confucianism, the followers are Confused, and the game is Confusing-ball.

honestrosewater
Jan30-06, 04:40 AM
Hee hee. Okay, random bits of info...

1985
male child of russ watters
tiger
Job 41

honestrosewater
Jan30-06, 11:37 PM
:frown: Did anyone look up Job 41? It's about something pretty rare. The striped friend of the boy who the game is named after is named after a guy who wrote a book about the creature in Job 41 ... or the COMMONWEALTH... uh... or STATE... (in Latin, CIVITAS), which is but an artificial man, though of greater stature and strength than the natural, for whose protection and defence it was intended; and in which the sovereignty is an artificial soul, as giving life and motion to the whole body; the magistrates and other officers of judicature and execution, artificial joints; reward and punishment (by which fastened to the seat of the sovereignty, every joint and member is moved to perform his duty) are the nerves, that do the same in the body natural; the wealth and riches of all the particular members are the strength; salus populi (the people's safety) its business; counsellors, by whom all things needful for it to know are suggested unto it, are the memory; equity and laws, an artificial reason and will; concord, health; sedition, sickness; and civil war, death... :zzz:

Mk
Jan31-06, 12:51 AM
Huh? You lost me at "Today, 3:37, honestrosewater"

honestrosewater
Jan31-06, 02:27 AM
Huh? You lost me at "Today, 3:37, honestrosewater"You're only 3 hours ahead of me?

honestrosewater
Jan31-06, 02:30 AM
Oh, right, the clue. :tongue2:

It's in a friggin comic strip... a comic strip about a boy's adventures with his doll... er, stuffed tiger... fierce, stuffed tiger...

Erm, you did realize that Job is a book of the Bible? And 41 refers to the chapter of the book... ?? I thought that was a pretty big clue...

Mk
Jan31-06, 02:45 AM
I haven't tried since I asked you for a hint :redface:

If you are on the East Coast, then I am 15 hours ahead of you. It was 3:35 PM, on Tuesday here.

Mk
Jan31-06, 02:49 AM
What do you call a follower of the theological system developed by the person who the boy who this game is named after is named after?
Calvanist.

honestrosewater
Jan31-06, 02:52 AM
No, Calvinist. :wink:

Mk
Jan31-06, 10:40 PM
Why isn't anyone else participating? Do we need to make the questions easier? Its not as much fun without competition, both racing to get the answer!! That's the thrill!

Of the 8 great Neolithic founder crops, one of which's oil was boiled for a paint binder or wood finisher. Approximately how many kilojoules of food energy does the oil store per 0.1 kilograms?

Wow this thread is very informative. I've learned so many things I didn't know.

Mk
Feb2-06, 05:48 AM
Clue: Linaceae

wolram
Feb3-06, 09:51 AM
Why isn't anyone else participating? Do we need to make the questions easier? Its not as much fun without competition, both racing to get the answer!! That's the thrill!

Of the 8 great Neolithic founder crops, one of which's oil was boiled for a paint binder or wood finisher. Approximately how many kilojoules of food energy does the oil store per 0.1 kilograms?

Wow this thread is very informative. I've learned so many things I didn't know.

No idea about the food energy value, but i think flax was used for just about every thing way back then.

brewnog
Feb3-06, 09:54 AM
Ooooh, not played this thread for ages!

Linseed?

Mk
Feb4-06, 12:09 AM
Yes, you are both on the right track.

wolram
Feb5-06, 12:57 PM
I give up, i can not find any site that gives energy values.

brewnog
Feb5-06, 01:13 PM
Linseed oil, 1880 kilojoules of energy per 100g.

Do I win?

Mk
Feb5-06, 03:10 PM
Yes that is exactly right. You could have used google or wikipedia to find it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linseed_oil

Mk
Feb6-06, 02:21 AM
Brewnog wins!!! Post a question.

brewnog
Feb6-06, 03:47 PM
Woop!

I must confess, I'm not a human nutritional information bank, it was from Wiki in the end. But I did know it was Linseed, partly thanks to Wooly ruling out flax itself.

I'll have a quick think and be back with something tip top.

On second thoughts, Wooly can have a go since he sparked my train of thought for the last one (and I can't think of anything good at the moment).

wolram
Feb8-06, 07:07 AM
Thanks Brewy, try this, hope you like it MK.

Add an Egyptian god to tubular bells to get a fire breathing monster, found in 1553.

Mk
Feb9-06, 01:52 AM
Chimeria. .

wolram
Feb9-06, 03:33 AM
Chimeria. .

Your supposed to at least scratch your head for while :biggrin:

Mk
Feb9-06, 06:02 AM
lol. I figured the Egyptian god and tubular bells were too vague to use, so I looked for dragons and 1553.

wolram
Feb10-06, 05:18 PM
A fill in clue.

Type 39 was fitted with a full range of computer banks, which at the time were not fully miniaturised due to cost-saving measures. The isomorphic control mode did not work, and the control console was not fully developed.

What machine devoloped from this?

jimmy p
Feb10-06, 05:32 PM
Is it some kind of motor vehicle?

wolram
Feb10-06, 05:37 PM
Is it some kind of motor vehicle?

Hmmmm, well not in a conventional sence, but very loosely.

jimmy p
Feb10-06, 05:44 PM
Is it some kind of missile or torpedo.... or a radio controlled unmanned vehicle?

wolram
Feb10-06, 05:51 PM
Is it some kind of missile or torpedo.... or a radio controlled unmanned vehicle?

None of the above, no wheels or jet engines.

jimmy p
Feb10-06, 06:15 PM
???? Is it real? It has to be. Why would someone go into so much detail over sci-fi. BLAST!!!

Mk
Feb10-06, 08:36 PM
TARDIS, the TARDIS is a fictional time machine and spacecraft in the British science fiction television programme Doctor Who. The name is an acronym of Time And Relative Dimension (or Dimensions) In Space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARDIS
http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~abr/drwho/tardis/type40/node5.html

wolram
Feb11-06, 03:53 AM
[QUOTE=Mk]TARDIS, the TARDIS is a fictional time machine and spacecraft in the British science fiction television programme Doctor Who. The name is an acronym of Time And Relative Dimension (or Dimensions) In Space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARDIS
http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~abr/drwho/tardis/type40/node5.html[/

QUOTE]

:cry: correct,my next go will be much, much more difficult:smile:

Mk
Feb11-06, 04:58 AM
One from me: What was the date that the anthropomorphsim article in Wikipedia was started, and who did it?

wolram
Feb11-06, 05:52 AM
One from me: What was the date that the anthropomorphsim article in Wikipedia was started, and who did it?

28th oct 2001 ?

Mk
Feb11-06, 06:02 AM
Yes. And some guy that started it's name was Lilith.

wolram
Feb11-06, 06:10 AM
Yes. And some guy that started it's name was Lilith.

Will you go again MK, i am all out off ideas for the moment.

brewnog
Feb11-06, 09:54 AM
I'll take my go now, should fill in some time.

At over 330 metres tall, this structure covers around 10,000 square kilometres. What is it?

wolram
Feb11-06, 09:59 AM
I'll take my go now, should fill in some time.

At over 330 metres tall, this structure covers around 10,000 square kilometres. What is it?/
some sort of aerial array?

Art
Feb11-06, 10:33 AM
What was the world's first working computer called and who built it.

brewnog
Feb11-06, 10:38 AM
/
some sort of aerial array?

On the right tracks! Think More.

wolram
Feb11-06, 10:40 AM
What was the world's first working computer called and who built it.
Abacus or may be the digits on your danny.

brewnog
Feb11-06, 10:45 AM
Charles Babbage's difference engine has already been brought up in this thread I think, but I don't know what the world's first working computer was, Babbage never built the engine. Joseph Clement made a pretty good stab at it though, he got part of it working in 1832 but funding was cut the year after. The difference engine was finally built in 1991! These the right kind of lines?

wolram
Feb11-06, 10:49 AM
On the right tracks! Think More.
My ganglia has gone way beyond its CSP, let the young uns do some work:smile:

Mk
Feb11-06, 06:29 PM
What was the world's first working computer called and who built it.
Babbage's difference engine No. 2, finally built in 1991, could hold 7 numbers of 31 decimal digits each and could thus tabulate 7th degree polynomials to that precision. The best machines from Scheutz were able to store 4 numbers with 15 digits each.
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/galleryguide/E2052.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Difference_Engine

Mk
Feb11-06, 06:35 PM
I'll take my go now, should fill in some time.

At over 330 metres tall, this structure covers around 10,000 square kilometres. What is it?
Is it Basement Sill, McMurdo Dry Valleys, Antarctica?

A tongue of mostly large orthopyroxene crystals of a rough aerial extent of 10,000 km$^2$ occupies much of the ~330 m thick Basement Sill, which is the basal sill of the ~4 km thick Ferrar Dolerite sill sequence. The thickness of the tongue and the amount of the sill that it occupies locally is a direct indication of the location of the conduit that fed the Basement Sill during emplacement. The tongue is thickest near the zone of magma ascent (called the feeder zone), which is in the vicinity of Bull Pass where it fills nearly the entire sill. Away from the feeder zone the tongue thins, eventually disappearing, and also rises to maintain a vertically central position in the sill.
http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:DXPqzR2ws0kJ:www.agu.org/meetings/fm05/fm05-sessions/fm05_V23A.html+10,000+km+330+m&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3

Mk
Feb12-06, 12:21 AM
What was the world's first working computer called and who built it.
Defense needs in World War II were the driving force behind the development of the first large electronic computer built in the United States. The Electronic Numerical Integrator and Computer (ENIAC), although completed at the end of 1945, after World War II had ended, was initially designed to calculate trajectories of projectiles. Developed by the University of Pennsylvania's Moore School of Electrical Engineering for the Ballistic Research Laboratory in Aberdeen, Maryland, it was a general-purpose decimal machine containing 18,000 vacuum tubes. Its design was related to the Differential Analyzer built by Vannevar Bush, except that Bush's mechanical components, such as counters and adders, were replaced by electronic ones.

brewnog
Feb12-06, 07:58 AM
Nope, it's not Basement Sill. It's a man-made structure.

brewnog
Feb12-06, 08:00 AM
MK, the Difference Engine wasn't built until 1991, by which time we'd had electronic computers for quite a while!

wolram
Feb12-06, 10:57 AM
I need another clue Brewy.

brewnog
Feb12-06, 01:24 PM
Wolram, think more. No wait, think Moor.

wolram
Feb12-06, 01:55 PM
RAF Fylingdales, an early warning station.

brewnog
Feb12-06, 02:27 PM
No, but again, I think that was in this thread last year sometime too!

Your first guess was probably best.

matthyaouw
Feb13-06, 06:20 AM
Some kind of power network?

wolram
Feb13-06, 10:51 AM
EMELY MOOR.

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/emley/emley-facts.asp#maps

brewnog
Feb13-06, 11:58 AM
Woop, Wooly wins!

wolram
Feb13-06, 12:15 PM
Woop, Wooly wins!

I think i came first in the middle and last:smile:

I will try and find a good one, if any one else wants a go, please jump in.

wolram
Feb13-06, 02:36 PM
death by a heavy old moo, hot stuff.

Mk
Feb13-06, 10:57 PM
That's the question?

Mk
Feb13-06, 11:18 PM
If so, how about "Death by Chocolate," fried ice cream, hot fudge?

Art
Feb14-06, 09:06 AM
Defense needs in World War II were the driving force behind the development of the first large electronic computer built in the United States. The Electronic Numerical Integrator and Computer (ENIAC), although completed at the end of 1945, after World War II had ended, was initially designed to calculate trajectories of projectiles. Developed by the University of Pennsylvania's Moore School of Electrical Engineering for the Ballistic Research Laboratory in Aberdeen, Maryland, it was a general-purpose decimal machine containing 18,000 vacuum tubes. Its design was related to the Differential Analyzer built by Vannevar Bush, except that Bush's mechanical components, such as counters and adders, were replaced by electronic ones.Close in regard to the time and motivation -

here's a clue - code breaking.

wolram
Feb14-06, 11:49 AM
If so, how about "Death by Chocolate," fried ice cream, hot fudge?
I said i would make it harder for you MK.

Mk
Feb14-06, 10:32 PM
here's a clue - code breaking.
Is it a CIA computer?

Art
Feb15-06, 08:21 AM
Is it a CIA computer?Nope, Here's lots of clues - UK gov't - WW2 - Bletchley Park - Enigma.

Mk
Feb16-06, 10:20 PM
In 1943, the Colossus, the world's first programmable digital electronic computer, was designed at Bletchley Park by Max Newman and his team?

Art
Feb19-06, 02:34 PM
In 1943, the Colossus, the world's first programmable digital electronic computer, was designed at Bletchley Park by Max Newman and his team?Right time place and machine. Wrong designer. Colossus was first offered to the MOD at design stage but was rejected as it was thought to be too complicated and the war would be over before it was built. The post office worker who had tried to sell them on the idea was called Tommy Flowers. He went off and built it himself using his own money. He completed it in 10 months and the MOD was so impressed they ordered 10 of them to break the German codes. They were so successful the intelligence officers in Bletchley park were reading the secret German communiques practically in real time. His reward was anonymity for 50 years under the official secrets act and a £1000 award in recognition of his contribution to the war effort (which was slightly less than the amount of personal expenditure he had incurred in constructing it).

Mk
Feb20-06, 02:51 PM
Yay I win! This is better than the time I put mayonnaise inside all the Easter eggs at the egg hunt!

Zygotic Embryo
Feb20-06, 04:25 PM
Go ahead, Mk.
Im up for your question :)

Mk
Feb21-06, 12:16 AM
Well, if you could figure out the first isolator, discoverer, or inventor of banana oil that would be good. I don't know the answer though.

Mk
Feb22-06, 12:19 AM
I'm still going to be thinking of one...

Mk
Feb23-06, 04:43 AM
I got a question for you guys to solve!

It restricts the diameter of the light path through one plane in an optical system, it may be a lens or a mirror. Apple Computer recently released this program, what was Adobe's response?

Mk
Mar6-06, 02:22 AM
Well, I post a question and no body tries eh?

Andre
Mar6-06, 07:08 AM
Okay then, Bridge (http://www.macworld.com/2005/06/reviews/bridgecs2/index.php)?

Mk
Mar6-06, 02:56 PM
You know what, I'll give it to you. That is a good answer. Score one of Andre! I've never seen you in this thread before! Lightroom was a better answer though http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1445

Andre
Mar7-06, 05:30 AM
Okay I just happened to stumble upon this thread. But what is this then?

http://home.wanadoo.nl/bijkerk/whatisit.jpg

Bonus points for the age, owner and location of this gadget.

Mk
Mar7-06, 05:43 AM
Wow tough. Tough. It looks Greek, and it seems to be a gadget... hmm : /

matthyaouw
Mar7-06, 05:51 AM
It does look ancient greek in style, but the proportioning of the body parts seems much better than the vase painting etc you see. I'm wondering if its a victorian or later copy of the style...

Andre
Mar7-06, 06:02 AM
Not Greek not Victorian. And it's original. I give away the current location of the thing: Paris, France.

And it's the most intruiging thing I've seen.

Andre
Mar7-06, 06:18 AM
Furthermore, it's made of stone, it's size is less than two inches and it's inscriptions are not representative of the area where it was made/found, suggesting that the population of the makers already traveled quite a bit. But that does not help solving what it is, does it?

http://home.wanadoo.nl/bijkerk/whatisit.jpg

Andre
Mar7-06, 07:11 AM
The other side shows two water buffaloes, definitely not native to the area were it was found, The origin of those animals could have been India, the Ganghes Valley. Which also rules out India.

The original owner needed it for his job. He was a secretary.

Andre
Mar7-06, 03:41 PM
The area, where it came from is in the news, every day.

matthyaouw
Mar7-06, 04:46 PM
Iraq then I'd assume, but I'm still not sure what it is. how deep does that opening in the bottom go?

Mk
Mar7-06, 10:40 PM
Is it an inkwell? But how intriguing would it be then? It looks like a pencil sharpener, or something to... well, have fun with :redface: but if its only 2 inches long its too small. :biggrin: Well maybe not for some of you. :tongue2:

Iraq?
Probably the Middle East?

matthyaouw
Mar8-06, 02:21 AM
I'd thought pencil sharpener too but thought that was pretty unlikely.

Andre
Mar8-06, 02:26 AM
Iraq is correct. Bonus point for Matthyouw. But it is was known as Mesopotania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotania) in the time of the gadget. The very fertile land between the Euphrathes and the Tigris rivers, currently barren dessert. Not really close the the Ganghes in India.

Actually, the size is 3,51 cm and it's not a pencil sharpener.

The hole goes all the way through.

matthyaouw
Mar8-06, 03:19 AM
Is it for marking paper? I can imagine it rolled along a letter or document to leave an impression rather like an ink stamp.

zoobyshoe
Mar8-06, 03:44 AM
Is it for marking paper? I can imagine it rolled along a letter or document to leave an impression rather like an ink stamp.
I think you're right:

cylinder seal: Cylinder of stone, gem or baked clay engraved with a design which made an impression when rolled over wet clay

Mk
Mar8-06, 04:19 AM
No way, the first thing I thought of was an ink roller thing from Greece or Mesopotamia if it was in the Middle East, but why would it have a kind of design that would be on a tapestry on it, why is it so small, and why is it for paper if paper wasn't invented yet?

Andre
Mar8-06, 04:38 AM
The correct word indeed is "cylinder seal" Point for Zoobyshoe. This particular one is an extraordinary specimen more than 4000 years old. Not exactly the stone tools we have in mind, suggesting how we tend to underestimate the culture of then.

More info here (http://www.metmuseum.org/special/First_Cities/firstcities_stop7.htm).

zoobyshoe
Mar8-06, 05:01 AM
This man discovered all the rudiments of photography, except a process for fixing the image, at least 30 years before anyone else.

Mk
Mar9-06, 12:57 AM
Nicéphore Niépce?

zoobyshoe
Mar9-06, 01:26 AM
Nicéphore Niépce?
Before him, even.

Mk
Mar9-06, 03:53 AM
Johann Zahn?

zoobyshoe
Mar9-06, 04:05 AM
Johann Zahn?
Nein!
...........

Mk
Mar9-06, 04:23 AM
No hablamos Español. :biggrin:

zoobyshoe
Mar9-06, 06:08 AM
No hablamos Español. :biggrin:
Nein! Es: "No se habla Español."

Mk
Mar9-06, 06:16 PM
"No se habla Español."
That probably would have been better fitting, but I was feeling especially <insert word here> and I decided to go for "We do not speak spanish." Was I right?

zoobyshoe
Mar9-06, 06:53 PM
That probably would have been better fitting, but I was feeling especially <insert word here> and I decided to go for "We do not speak spanish." Was I right?
"No hablamos Espanol" doesn't mean "We don't speak Spanish." It means: "We are not speaking Spanish." The verb "to speak" is reflexive in that language: se hablar: to be spoken. When a Spanish speaker want to convey the information they speak Spanish it is done by saying: "Spanish is spoken" or "Se habla Espanol". The opposite, "I/we don't speak Spanish" is "No se habla Espanol."

Mk
Mar9-06, 08:46 PM
The verb "to speak" is reflexive in that language: se hablar: to be spoken. When a Spanish speaker want to convey the information they speak Spanish it is done by saying: "Spanish is spoken" or "Se habla Espanol". The opposite, "I/we don't speak Spanish" is "No se habla Espanol."
Mmmm thank you/.

You sound like you could be a Spanish teacher.

Mk
Mar14-06, 05:09 AM
Jeez this is hard.

Mk
Apr12-06, 07:25 AM
I give up, I don't know!

tarbag
Aug12-06, 02:52 AM
1946: Creation of the ENIAC (Electronic Numerical Integrator and Computer) by P. Eckert and J Mauchly.The programming of this calculator is carried out while recablant between them, its various elements. Composed of 19000 tubes, it weighs 30 tons, occupies a surface of 72 m2 and consumes 140 kilowatts. Clock: 100 Khz. Speed: approximately 330 multiplications a second :

http://www.library.upenn.edu/exhibits/rbm/mauchly/jwm0-1.html

Mk
Aug12-06, 07:16 AM
Anybody get deja vu?

NoTime
Aug12-06, 08:05 PM
It was 10 feet tall, occupied 1,000 square feet of floor- space, weighed in at approximately 30 tons, and used more than 70,000 resistors, 10,000 capacitors, 6,000 switches, and 18,000 vacuum tubes. The final machine required 150 kilowatts of power, which was enough to light a small town.
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what was it?
For all of that, it didn't have the horsepower of a programable hand calulator today.:bugeye:

Ivan Seeking
Sep10-07, 11:45 AM
As claimed, it was a cross between that of Catherine Hepburn, Truman Capote, and Hal, the computer from the movie, 2001. What was it?

zoobyshoe
Sep10-07, 12:28 PM
As claimed, it was a cross between that of Catherine Hepburn, Truman Capote, and Hal, the computer from the movie, 2001. What was it?

"Hello Clarice."

Ivan Seeking
Sep10-07, 12:38 PM
Correct! It was the voice of Hannibal Lecter.

Personally, I think he should have thrown in a little Tom Snyder.

zoobyshoe
Sep10-07, 12:48 PM
This natural object gave someone the idea for parallel processing.

Mk
Nov28-07, 11:59 PM
This natural object gave someone the idea for parallel processing.
The brain?