Eternal recurrence

[Sauwelios]

Lectori salutem.

Can anyone refute the finite space/energy/matter in infinite time theory?

Finite space/energy/matter implies that the universe is not something endlessly extended, but set in a definite space as a definite force.

Infinite time implies that it has never begun to become and will never cease from passing away.

This means that the universe consist of a finite amount of energy (in whatever manifestation) that flows on in an infinite stream - not infinitely deep or wide, but infinitely long.

Thanks in advance!

Sauw

[check]

You should probably post this on the Philosophy board.

[Sauwelios]

And why is that - is it beyond the grasp of physics?

[Alexander]

Originally posted by Sauwelios

This means that the universe consist of a finite amount of energy (in whatever manifestation) that flows on in an infinite stream - not infinitely deep or wide, but infinitely long.


Sauw

So far all measurements show that net energy of universe is zero. Same for all other conserved values (charge, momentum, etc).

[Eh]

Originally posted by Alexander
So far all measurements show that net energy of universe is zero. Same for all other conserved values (charge, momentum, etc).

Volume?

[Alexander]

Volume is not a conserved value.

[Alexander]

Originally posted by Eh
By convention there is sweet, by convention there is bitter, by convention hot and cold, by convention colour; but in reality there are only atoms and space.



Actually not even atoms.

[Eh]

Oh, conserved. My bad.

[Eh]

Originally posted by Alexander
Actually not even atoms.

Fields only then? Well, it was a pretty close guess, considering it was made thousands of years ago.

[Sauwelios]

Originally posted by Alexander
So far all measurements show that net energy of universe is zero. Same for all other conserved values (charge, momentum, etc).


I am not interested in "net" energy. Of course the net energy is zero: otherwise it should have a positive or negative charge in relation to something else. But I am talking about the whole universe.