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azatkgz
Oct24-07, 04:08 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Nucleus A,which has rest mass m_A,collides with nucleus B,which has rest mass m_B.In the laboratory frame,nucleus A has energy E>m_Ac^2
abd nucleus B is stationery.Find the total energy of the system in center of mass frame in terms of m_A,m_B and E.
3. The attempt at a solution
What's the center of mass frame?Is it a frame of nucleus A?
Consider the frame in which the total spatial momentum is zero.
azatkgz
Oct24-07, 04:15 AM
Is it a center of two nuclei?
azatkgz
Oct24-07, 04:28 AM
Then check my solution.
Velocity of A in labframe is
v=c\sqrt{1-(\frac{m_Ac^2}{E-m_Ac^2})^2}
velocity of center of mass
v_c=\frac{m_Av}{m_A+m_B}
In frame which moves with velocity v_c,nucleus A has velocity
v'_A=\frac{v-v_c}{1-\frac{vv_c}{c^2}}.And nucleus B has velocity v'_B=v_c.So the total energy in this frame is
E'=\gamma(v'_A)m_Ac^2+\gamma(v'_B)m_Bc^2
azatkgz
Oct24-07, 10:36 AM
I think from the frame moving with velocity v_c,velocities for A and B arer true.But as seems to me m_Av_A\neq m_Bv_B in this frame.
azatkgz
Oct30-07, 12:26 PM
Here I tried another solution:
E'=\sqrt{(E+m_Bc^2)^2-E^2+m_A^2c^4}
learningphysics
Oct30-07, 12:56 PM
Here I tried another solution:
E'=\sqrt{(E+m_Bc^2)^2-E^2+m_A^2c^4}
Looks right to me.
azatkgz
Oct30-07, 01:04 PM
Thanks very much.
And ,if after colission reaction occurs A+B\rightarrowC+D+Q.m_A+m_B=m_C+m_D+Q.Is it
E'^2=(m_Cc^2+m_Dc^2+Q)^2 ? For E minimum
learningphysics
Oct30-07, 01:08 PM
Thanks very much.
And ,if after colission reaction occurs A+B\rightarrowC+D+Q.m_A+m_B=m_C+m_D+Q.Is it
E'^2=(m_Cc^2+m_Dc^2+Q)^2 ? For E minimum
I don't understand. What is the question asking for?
azatkgz
Oct30-07, 01:12 PM
Oh,sorry.After collision reaction occurs A+B\rightarrow C+D.Suppose that
m_A+m_B=m_C+m_D+Q.Find the minumum E for reaction to occur?And I think that in center of mass frame after reaction total momentum is zero.
learningphysics
Oct30-07, 01:27 PM
Oh,sorry.After collision reaction occurs A+B\rightarrow C+D.Suppose that
m_A+m_B=m_C+m_D+Q.Find the minumum E for reaction to occur?And I think that in center of mass frame after reaction total momentum is zero.
sorry. still a little confused. what does Q represent here?
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