Rate of Butter Reaching Room Temp: Need Help!

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The discussion revolves around determining the rate at which butter reaches ambient room temperature from a chilled state. It explores theoretical and practical approaches to modeling this thermal process, including the application of Newton's Law of Cooling and considerations of heat transfer mechanisms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using Newton's Law of Cooling as a starting point for the analysis.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to determine the thermal conductivity (k coefficient) of butter and the convection coefficients for the system, proposing a model involving resistances for conduction and convection.
  • A detailed approach is provided that includes calculating heat flow (Q) through a series of resistances, incorporating both conduction through the butter and convection at its surfaces.
  • The importance of considering temperature gradients within the butter and the effects of natural convection on the melting process is highlighted, with a suggestion that a more complex model may be necessary beyond Newton's Law.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method or model for calculating the rate of temperature change in butter. Multiple approaches and considerations are presented, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

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Limitations include the need for specific values for thermal conductivity and convection coefficients, as well as the assumptions regarding the geometry of the butter and the conditions of the surrounding environment. The discussion acknowledges the complexity of the heat transfer process involved.

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Not sure whether anyone can help, I need to work out the rate at which butter reaches ambient room temperature from being chilled at various temperatures.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?
 
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You'll need the k coefficient of butter and the convection coefficient of the system of the surface of the butter and the sides of the butter.

Try making a series of resistances of: butter conduction + parallel sides of convection of the butter + upper surface convection. For butter conduction I would suggest using a spherical equation. Your Rconduction will be function of the diameter of the butter and the k coefficient. For the others you use convection over a vertical wall and convection over a horizontal plate.

If you have the series of resistances R you can then say that Q is the flow of warmth, which is the same for every part of the butter (conduction and convection).

In this case you can say that there is a constant room temperature and you have an initial temperature of the upper surface of the butter. Q = h (Tr-Ts) and h depends on what kind of surface you have, you'll have to use correlations to find this one. Tr is constant.

When you have the Q, you can make little time intervals, use a numerical program, or you can make yourself (in Matlab) a loop with a certain time interval deltat. Q will constantly change and Ts will change too.

Now why did we need this R then? It's just: when you know Q and you know R, you will know delta Temperature between inside the butter and the outside ambient temperature.

So you will have Tbutter in function of temperature because: R = deltaT/Q

I'm afraid you can't solve this one in an easier way, even when you only want the surface temperature of the butter, you'll still need to take in account the conduction between surface and inner butter. I'm also afraid you'll need to consider convection because it's this 'natural' convection that will melt the butter.

The Newton thing is a bit simplistic, because you don't take in account that the butter has a gradient and convection has not been taken account of. But it will do...
 
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