Can you find the positions of two rolling discs connected by a spring?

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This discussion focuses on the dynamics of two rolling discs connected by a spring, specifically analyzing their positions over time given initial conditions. The spring constant is defined as k = (9 v_0^2 m_1 m_2) / (2 L_0^2 (m_1 + m_2)). The equations derived include the deformation of the spring, the forces acting on each disc, and the resulting motion equations, leading to the final position equations x_1(t) and x_2(t). The analysis utilizes principles of conservation of momentum and rotational dynamics to derive the relationships between the discs' positions and velocities.

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Two discs of masses [tex]m_1[/tex] and [tex]m_2[/tex], both of radius R, have centers connected by a spring so that they can roll without slipping. At the initial moment the centers are at [tex]x_1(0) = 0, x_2(0) = 2L_0[/tex] and have initial speeds [tex]-v_0[/tex] and [tex]2v_0[/tex] respectively. Find their positions at all later times. The unstretched spring has length [tex]L_0[/tex] and a spring constant
[tex]k = \frac{9 v_0^2 m_1 m_2}{2 L_0^2 (m_1 + m_2)}[/tex]

I seem to arrive at an equation which does not need the spring constant. Can you start me off ?
 
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First of all, the amount [tex]\Delta l[/tex] of the spring's deformation can be related with the positions [tex]x_1,x_2[/tex] of the disc. At any instance of time the length of the spring is [tex]L=x_2-x_1[/tex]. If we assume that the spring is stretched then we have [tex]\begin{equation}\Delta l=L-L_0\Rightarrow \Delta l=x_2-x_1-L_0 \end{equation}[/tex].

Returning to the the diss, if each disc is homogenous then its moment of inertia about an axis perpendicular to the disc passing through it's center is [tex]I_C=\frac{1}{2}mR^2[/tex]. When a disc is rolling without slipping we have [tex]a_{CM}=R\,\alpha[/tex].
Thus for a rolling without slipping 2nd disc, Newton's second law reads
[tex]\Sigma\tau=I_C\,\alpha\Rightarrow f\,R=\frac{1}{2}mR^2\,\alpha\Rightarrow f=\frac{1}{2}mR\,\alpha \Rightarrow f=\frac{1}{2}m\,a_{CM}[/tex] and
[tex]\Sigma F=m\,a_{CM}\Rightarrow -k\,\Delta l-f=m\,a_{CM}[/tex]
where [tex]f[/tex] stands for the friction which is requiried for the rotation.
Adding the two equations we arrive to
[tex]-k\,\Delta l=\frac{3}{2}\,m\,\ddot{x}_2 \quad (2)[/tex]
Likewise for the1st disc we arrive to
[tex]k\,\Delta l=\frac{3}{2}\,m\,\ddot{x}_1 \quad (3)[/tex]

Adding equations (2),(3) we have

[tex]m_1\,a_1+m_2\,a_2=0\Rightarrow m_1\,\dot{x}_1+m_2\,\dot{x}_2=-m_1\,v_0+2\,m_2\,v_0 \,(conservation\, of\, momentum) \Rightarrow m_1\, x_1+m_2\,x_2=(m_1\,v_0+2\,m_2\,v_0 )\,t+2\,m_2\,L_0 \quad (4)[/tex]

With the help of (1) and (4) we can express [tex]\Delta l[/tex] with respect to [tex]x_1[/tex] or [tex]x_2[/tex], e.g.

[tex]\Delta l=(1+\frac{m_2}{m_1})\,x_2+(1-2\,\frac{m_2}{m_1})\,v_0\,t-(1+2\,\frac{m_2}{m_1})\,L_0 \quad (5)[/tex]

Plugging (5) into (2) we can compute [tex]x_2(t)[/tex], and from (4) we have [tex]x_1(t)[/tex]. The results are

[tex]x_1(t)=-\frac{m_2\,L_0}{m_1+m_2}\,(\-1 + \cos \frac{{\sqrt{3}}\,t\,{v_o}}{{L_o}} + <br /> {\sqrt{3}}\,\sin \frac{{\sqrt{3}}\,t\,{v_o}}{{L_o}})-\frac{ {m_1} - 2\,{m_2} }<br /> {{m_1} + {m_2}}\,{v_o} \,t[/tex]

[tex]x_2(t)=\frac{m_1\,L_0}{m_1+m_2}\,(\-1 + \cos \frac{{\sqrt{3}}\,t\,{v_o}}{{L_o}} + <br /> {\sqrt{3}}\,\sin \frac{{\sqrt{3}}\,t\,{v_o}}{{L_o}})-\frac{ {m_1} - 2\,{m_2} }<br /> {{m_1} + {m_2}}\,{v_o} \,t +\frac{2\,m_2\,L_0}{m_1+m_2}[/tex]




Hope, I helped!
 

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