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VatanparvaR
Jul28-08, 09:44 AM
\lambda f(y)= i b y \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} + \frac{partial g(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}g
\lambda g(y)= i b y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{partial f(y)}{y} +\frac{k}{y}f
I tried to get a hypergeometric eq. from these two but couldn't.
Any hints to solve?
Helps would be appreciated!
VatanparvaR
Aug7-08, 07:03 AM
I somehow got this second oder diff.eq.
[tex]
(1-m^2y^2)f_{yy}-2my(i\lambda+m)f_{y}+(\lambda^2-im\lambda-\frac{k(k+1)}{y^2})f=0
[\tex]
where
[tex]f_{yy}[\tex] is [tex]\frac{\partial^2}{\partial y^2}[\tex]
Any ideas to solve this one?
p.s. Latex is not working here or am I typing wrong?
Defennder
Aug7-08, 09:21 AM
\lambda f(y)= i b y \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} + \frac{\partial g(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}g
\lambda g(y)= i b y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial f(y)}{y} +\frac{k}{y}f
(1-m^2y^2)f_{yy}-2my(i\lambda+m)f_{y}+(\lambda^2-im\lambda-\frac{k(k+1)}{y^2})f=0
where
f_{yy} \ \mbox{is} \frac{\partial^2}{\partial y^2}
You're using the wrong slash. The closing tag should use this "/" instead.
VatanparvaR
Aug7-08, 09:40 AM
wups, thanks very much.
and another thing, I wrote wrong the above 2 eq.s, I put + instead of minus here
\lambda g(y)= i m y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial f(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}f
so it should be:
\lambda f(y)= i m y \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} + \frac{\partial g(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}g
\lambda g(y)= i m y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial f(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}f
and then we get the above second oder diff.eq.:
(1-m^2y^2)f_{yy}-2my(i\lambda+m)f_{y}+(\lambda^2-im\lambda-\frac{k(k+1)}{y^2})f=0
VatanparvaR
Aug9-08, 04:04 AM
so any ideas?
VatanparvaR
Aug11-08, 03:51 AM
where
m, \lambda, k are constants.
I am trying to put these two:
f_1=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}p_ny^{2n}, \ \ \ \ \ \ f_2=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}a_ny^{2n+1}
and check if it is odd or even. At the end I am getting a recurrent eq.
any other ideas?
VatanparvaR
Aug11-08, 05:02 AM
hmm, it gives zero solution.
coefficients are zero in this case :(
VatanparvaR
Aug12-08, 09:13 AM
I guess this one works:
http://eqworld.ipmnet.ru/en/solutions/ode/ode0226.pdf
VatanparvaR
Aug15-08, 06:44 AM
Ok, I got the solution.
Now I need one thing. From Abramowitz's book I got this one
F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{3}{2}, z^2)=\frac{1}{2}z^{-1}(1-2a)^{-1}[(1+z)^{1-2a}-(1-z)^{1-2a}]
Now I need to find
F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{5}{2}, z^2)
F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{7}{2}, z^2)
and, it would be great if I find
F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, n+ \frac{1}{2}, z^2)
are there any books, handbooks, or websites that I could find this guy?
VatanparvaR
Aug18-08, 06:08 AM
Hallooo???
Anybody is viewing this thread at all?
Matthew Rodman
Aug19-08, 06:05 PM
wups, thanks very much.
\lambda f(y)= i m y \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} + \frac{\partial g(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}g
\lambda g(y)= i m y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial f(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}f
You're missing two partial symbols. Are they supposed to be:
\lambda f(y)= i m y \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} + \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} -\frac{k}{y}g
\lambda g(y)= i m y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} -\frac{k}{y}f
???
Also, if f and g only depend on y, then why the partials?
VatanparvaR
Aug20-08, 09:10 AM
Yeah you are right, there should be two partial symbols.
No problem with partial. As I stated above, I got the solution for this diff. eq.
(1-m^2y^2)f_{yy}-2my(i\lambda+m)f_{y}+(\lambda^2-im\lambda-\frac{k(k+1)}{y^2})f=0
from here
http://eqworld.ipmnet.ru/en/solutions/ode/ode0226.pdf
The solution, as you see, is a Hypergeometric function.
Now I need some properties of the hypergeometric function. I posted it above:
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From Abramowitz's book I got this one
F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{3}{2}, z^2)=\frac{1}{2}z^{-1}(1-2a)^{-1}[(1+z)^{1-2a}-(1-z)^{1-2a}]
Now I need to find
F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{5}{2}, z^2)
and
F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{7}{2}, z^2)
and, it would be great if I find
F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, n+ \frac{1}{2}, z^2)
are there any books, handbooks, or websites that I could find this guy?
Plz, help!
VatanparvaR
Sep2-08, 06:38 AM
I guess, I need to take a derivative:
\frac{d}{dz}F(a, b, c, z^2)=\frac{ab}{2z\ c} F(a+1, b+1, c+1, z^2)
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