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mathslover
Aug3-08, 04:44 AM
Please help me in solving the problem,
find the sum
Sum{r=2 to infinity} (von Mangoldt(r)-1)/r



Your help is appreciated.

mhill
Aug11-08, 07:40 AM
do you mean \sum _{n=2}^{\infty} \frac{ \Lambda (n) -1}{n} ??


i think is divergent

mathslover
Aug12-08, 02:56 AM
hi mhill,
can you prove that the series is divergent?



-Ng

CRGreathouse
Aug12-08, 09:01 AM
hi mhill,
can you prove that the series is divergent?

\frac1n \sum_{k=1}^n\Lambda(k)=1+o(1/\log n)

so your series seems to be something like

\sum\frac{1}{n\log n}\approx\log\log n

Obviously this is very heuristic here.

CRGreathouse
Aug12-08, 10:21 AM
OK, it diverges.

\sum_{n=2}^{\infty} \frac{\Lambda(n) -1}{n}=\sum_p\sum_{k=1}^\infty\(\frac{\log p-1}{p}+\frac{\log p-1}{p^2}+\cdots\)=\sum_p\frac{\log p-1}{p-1}
and we all know that
\sum_p\frac1p=+\infty

mathslover
Aug13-08, 02:00 AM
when n is a prime or prime power, the summation is okay.

but suppose when n=6, then the sum is (von Mangoldt(6) -1)/6 , which is = -1/6,

as n runs from 2 to infinity,can we settle the problem of convergency or divergency?



-Ng

CRGreathouse
Aug13-08, 09:06 AM
when n is a prime or prime power, the summation is okay.

but suppose when n=6, then the sum is (von Mangoldt(6) -1)/6 , which is = -1/6,

as n runs from 2 to infinity,can we settle the problem of convergency or divergency?

My post addressed the case where n runs from 2 to infinity, which diverges.

mathslover
Aug15-08, 02:17 AM
Hi CRGreatHouse,

In your post 1673, the summation on LHS runs from n=2 to infinity, (n=2,3,4,5,6,7,8,...)

But the summation on RHS runs over all primes.(p=2,3,5,7,...)


From the definition of von Mangoldt function,when n=6,10,12,14,15,18,... , the summand

became (-1/n) whenever n is not equal to any prime or prime power.

Is something missing ?


-Ng

CRGreathouse
Aug15-08, 06:27 PM
Is something missing ?

Right, right... yeah, I calculated it for numerator \Lambda first, forgetting about the -1 term, and when I added it back in forgot that part.

But wouldn't that also suggest divergence (in the other direction), since the prime powers are density 0, the reciprocal primes vary as log log n, and the reciprocal integers vary as log n?

Numerical experimentation would be nice here.

mathslover
Aug16-08, 10:10 PM
I have tried numerical calculation and the sum seems to converge to ~ -1.16

Can we approach the problem from Zeta function?



-Ng