Trying to explain to the doctor

[wolram]

Okay this may sound strange but i am trying to self diagnose my (black outs),

1, have you ever felt that traveling a familiar stretch of road some thing seems wrong, the travel time seems to long?
2, Or some thing that is familiar seems wrong, like who are these people, why am i here.
3, when one gets these feelings one gets a physical sensation of imminent harm, like the feeling one gets if viewing some one having an accident, like my worst fear is getting gravel rash, i all way get a physical sensation starting from my tail bone and going through my knees accumulating with a buzz to the head.
Some times a sort of black out ensues, i do not loose consciousness, i get a sort of tunnel vision, i can hear what is going on around me, but i am to weak to do any thing.
I can postpone the (black out) if i concentrate, for a short time, but can not stop it eventually getting me.
Any help will be valueless thanks.

[Evo]

Have you told the doctor these symptoms?

What kind of tests is the doctor doing Wolram? How long has it been going on?

[lisab]

This sounds a lot like a recent thread in the Medical Science forum:

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=244410

I'm glad you're getting this checked out.

[Andre]

Wolram, No self diagnosis. Doesn't sound like doctoring for beginners. Blacks out are associated with a lack of oxygen in the brains, which could have various causes like pulling nine 'gees' in an F-16. But you're not doing that. Hope that they find the diagnosis soon. Get on the back of that doctor and have him do his job.

Hang in there pal

[wolram]

Have you told the doctor these symptoms?

What kind of tests is the doctor doing Wolram? How long has it been going on?

Well i do not tell doctors any thing, i hate them, but then i know they are the only people that can help, it has been an ongoing thing on and off for some years, as for tests, blood and and more blood, all these people understand is blood.

[wolram]

This sounds a lot like a recent thread in the Medical Science forum:

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=244410

I'm glad you're getting this checked out.

No way, i have a real strong heart, i am beginning to think tiredness is the main factor.

[seycyrus]

No way, i have a real strong heart, i am beginning to think tiredness is the main factor.

How does one determine that he has a "real strong heart"?

[wolram]

How does one determine that he has a "real strong heart"?

Well i can work till i drop, few things defeat me if i have a mind to finish it.

[berkeman]

Any help will be valueless thanks.

Kind of an ironic and telling typo, wollie. As your typo implies, our help is really without value. Despite your spite of doctors and giving blood and undergoing tests, this is too important for you to not go to the doc. In addition to the blood tests, you should also get an EKG, EEG, and O2 saturation tests. Do you have a blood pressure tester? The little boxes with the cuff for your arm... It might help the doctor to know what your normal range of bloodpressure and heart rate are, compared to when you feel these episodes coming on...

[Monique]

No way, i have a real strong heart, i am beginning to think tiredness is the main factor. Heart problems can give symptoms like this; the heart can stop beating for a few seconds and then continue, causing momentary loss of consciousness. The only way to pick this up is to wear a device that monitors your heartbeat for a few days.

I'd suggest going to a physician and getting a good check-up, cardiological and neurological.

[turbo-1]

I have similar "tunnel-vision" disorientation and inability to think after exposure to fragrances. I got to the ER one time when this was happening and the triage nurse admitted me immediately without asking to see ID or an insurance card. I must have looked like walking death. My BP was 185 over 90 IIR. Apparently I was going into shock and my body was shutting down blood flow to the extremities - my hands and feet were blue and cold. One of the ER nurses knew me and my wife and arranged to call her work and get her to the ER. They ran me through every test they could think of, because the ER doctor was quite skeptical that exposure to cologne/after-shave etc could do that to a person. I was there all day, and they wanted to hold me for observation, but they could not guarantee that no orderly or nurse would come in my room wearing fragrances, so my wife took me home.

I'm not suggesting that you have anything like this, Woolie, just pointing out that doctors only do the tests that they have some experience and trust in, and can discount the patient's account of what's happening. You might want to think back, and try to recall if there might have been a trigger in common to some of these. Like, were you using solvents to de-grease parts, were you using strong cleaners, or something volatile that you could have breathed in? Doctors may or may not be able to help you, but they are the only ones with a fighting chance at it. Get medical help and good luck.

[hypatia]

Oh Wolly, we could guess a thousand things and not one of us would be right. Let the people who are trained, eliminate the possible. This would at least lower our guessing field, to maybe 100 other options.

[Moonbear]

I concur with Monique. If the blood tests aren't turning up anything metabolic, then it's time to involve both a cardiologist and neurologist in the consults.