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maze
Oct6-08, 02:56 AM
In finite dimensions, a matrix can be decomposed into the sum of rank-1 matrices. This got me thinking - in what situations can a bounded linear operator mapping between infinite dimensional spaces be written as an (infinite) sum of rank-1 operators?

eg, let A be a bounded linear operator from banach spaces X to Y, then perhaps we might try

[tex]A = \sum_{i=1}^\infty y_i \phi_i[/itex]

for some functionals \phi_i in X', and elements y_i in Y.

Is there anything to this idea?

morphism
Oct6-08, 09:51 AM
Presumably we want the series \sum_{i=1}^\infty y_i \phi_i to converge in the operator norm. In this case, notice that for each N, the operator \sum_{i=1}^N y_i \phi_i is finite rank. So if we let N tend to infinity, we get a compact operator.

On general Banach spaces things get a little hairy. But if we're working on one Hilbert space H (so we're in B(H)), things are a little nicer, and the converse is true: every compact operator is the uniform limit of a sequence of finite ranks. And in fact we get a sort of singular value decomposition: if K is a compact operator on H, then there exists a sequence {s_i} of complex numbers and orthonormal bases {e_i} and {f_i} for H such that

K = \sum_{i=1}^\infty s_i (f_i \otimes e_i^*).

This is easy to prove. It basically follows from the fact that if K is compact, then K*K is compact and positive. So we can apply the spectral theorem to its square root (K*K)1/2. The "singular values" s_i of K are then nothing but the square roots of the eigenvalues of K*K.

HallsofIvy
Oct6-08, 04:12 PM
If your vector space has uncountable basis (which, I think, can't happen for Banach or Hilbert spaces), you would have to use an integral rather than a sum.

maze
Oct6-08, 08:33 PM
Err, doesnt L^\infty have an uncountable basis?

morphism
Oct6-08, 09:09 PM
Yes, the algebraic dimension of a Banach space is either finite or uncountable.

I don't really know what Halls meant by his comment. Maybe he was talking about Schauder bases? If your Banach spaces X and Y have (countable) Schauder bases, then a statement similar to the one in post #2 can be made. By the way, in that post I implicitly assumed that H was separable, so that we get countable orthonormal bases. There is really no loss in making this assumption, because if K is a compact operator between Hilbert spaces, then (\ker K)^\perp and \overline{\mathrm{ran} K} are separable Hilbert spaces - so compact operators essentially live in separable Hilbert spaces.

HallsofIvy
Oct7-08, 09:33 AM
Hey, I said "I think"! It's been a long time!

maze
Oct28-08, 06:42 PM
On topological vector spaces with no norm, is it true that the limit of finite rank operators is compact?

morphism
Oct29-08, 10:19 PM
Limit in what sense? And how are you defining compact operators?

maze
Oct30-08, 08:01 AM
Limit in the topological sense. In the sense that there exists an operator, the limit, such that every neighborhood of the limit contains a tail of the sequence of finite rank operators. We can make the space hausdorff too so that the limit is unique.

Then a compact operator would be defined as one where the image of the unit ball is precompact. All of this requires only topology and a vector space, so we ought to be able to say something about it.

morphism
Oct30-08, 12:41 PM
You need a norm to define the unit ball.

And still, what topology are you talking about? We're taking a sequence of operators - so what is the topology on the space of operators between two your vector spaces? The topology of pointwise/uniform convergence?

Office_Shredder
Oct30-08, 01:50 PM
You need a norm to define the unit ball.

And still, what topology are you talking about? We're taking a sequence of operators - so what is the topology on the space of operators between two your vector spaces? The topology of pointwise/uniform convergence?


There's a standard norm on bounded linear operators. The definition of a bounded linear operator is there exists M s.t. |Tx| <= M |x| for all x in your domain. Then taking the infimum of all such M gives |T|

morphism
Oct30-08, 01:56 PM
There's a standard norm on bounded linear operators. The definition of a bounded linear operator is there exists M s.t. |Tx| <= M |x| for all x in your domain. Then taking the infimum of all such M gives |T|
That only makes sense if there are norms on the underlying spaces. In any case, it's already been mentioned that the uniform limit (i.e. the limit in the topology generated by the operator norm) of finite ranks is compact.

maze
Oct30-08, 02:15 PM
Ahh right, cant use the unit ball. No matter, a compact operator can still be defined as an operator that maps a neighborhood of 0 into a subset of a compact set. As for the operator topology, I agree the topology of pointwise convergence would be a reasonable choice.

This should be true, but I can't see an easy proof.

morphism
Oct30-08, 02:46 PM
I don't think it's true. Take for instance a tvs X with a countably infinite (Hamel) basis {x_1, x_2, ...}. Then the identity I is not compact - otherwise X would be locally compact and hence finite-dimensional (a standard result). Nevertheless, I is the pointwise limit of finite rank operators. For instance if we define F_n(x_k)=x_k if k<=n and 0 otherwise, and extend by linearity, then F_n(x) -> x for all x, and F_n is a finite rank operator for each n.

maze
Oct30-08, 05:44 PM
Nice one. I should have seen that