Heaviside Method Division By Zero

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Heaviside "cover up" method used in Laplace Transforms, specifically addressing concerns about division by zero when substituting values into the method. Participants explore the implications of reversing the process to retrieve the original equation from the transformed one.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the Heaviside method, questioning the validity of substituting values that lead to division by zero when reversing the process.
  • Another participant requests an example problem to clarify the initial concern about division by zero.
  • A different participant suggests that substituting back into the original equation should not lead to division by zero if the values for a and b are correctly derived.
  • One participant explains that the transformation creates an equivalent equation except at specific points (s = -4 or 6), indicating that these points were not part of the original domain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the initial concern about division by zero. Some participants believe the method is valid while others are uncertain about the implications of reversing the process.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential misunderstandings about the Heaviside method and its application, particularly regarding the handling of values that lead to division by zero. The limitations of the method in certain contexts are acknowledged but not resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and practitioners of mathematics, particularly those studying Laplace Transforms and the Heaviside method, may find this discussion relevant.

Shahil
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Help! :confused:

Here I am busy doing some Laplace Transforms for my Maths 2 paper on Monday when suddenly to my surprise, an apparent "mistake" appears!

GASP! :eek:

It's got to do with the Heaviside "cover up" method. To work out a problem, you need to multiply the opposing side by the binomial and then substitute a value so as to make it zero.

Now, that don't make sense to me. Fine, it works in calculations but what if you run the problem backwards, so to say? That will mean that you will need to overlook a division by zero?



Is my logic just wrong or is the point valid?
 
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Could you post an example problem? It would help me to understand your point.
 
TALewis said:
Could you post an example problem? It would help me to understand your point.

Don't have my maths textbook with me at the moment - will do ao later (ie. 4 hours time) Gotta go learn my non-sensical mathematics now!
 
Don't know how to use the Maths thingy so bear with me.

It's a simple Heaviside problem here. I'll explain as we go on.

s-16/[(s-6)(s+4)] = a/s-6 + b/s+4

*normal heaviside conversion

"cover up" the (s-6) by setting s=6

As I've learned it, what you do is multiply both sides by (s-6)

basically

[(s-16)(s-6)]/[(s-6)(s-4)]

appears on one side of the equation. Granted, you cancel the (s-6) term BUT what if you are running this backwards? Surely, you're s=6 will mean a 0 appearing at the bottom?

Again I'll ask, is my logic right or is the method valid because of a stupid oversight by me??
 
What do you mean by "running backwards"?
 
Theoretically, of course, the situation is that you have the answer and you want to get back to the original question.

geddit??
 
Ok, so you have an answer for a and b; you should have no trouble substituting those answers back into the original equation. In particular, no division by zero occurs...
 
What you are doing is transforming the equation into another which is equivalent to the original for all values of s other than -4 or 6. In the new equation, you are able to use the values s=-4 and s=-6 to easily find values for a and b that work for all s. Since the new equation is equivalent to the old except when s = -4 or 6, the same values of a and b work for the original equation other than at these two points. But since these points were not in the domain of the original equation in the first place, nothing is lost.
 

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