Finding the electric field in all regions given uniform charge occupying a<r<b

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric field in regions defined by a uniform charge density occupying the space between two spherical radii, a and b, using Gauss's law. Participants are exploring the implications of spherical symmetry and the behavior of the electric field in different regions relative to the charge distribution.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on the application of Gauss's law. There is recognition of the need to clarify the placement of Gaussian surfaces and the treatment of charge within the specified regions. Some participants express confusion and seek further clarification on the correct approach.

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There is an indication that the problem may involve assumptions about the nature of the charge distribution, particularly whether it is conducting or not, which affects the electric field calculations. The original poster also notes the challenge of integrating over a volume versus considering surface areas.

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Hi, I hope this is the appropriate place and format etc. One of the questions I have to answer is this:

Use Gauss's law to obtain the field, everywhere, of charge of uniform density roe, occupying the region a<r<b, where r is the distance from the origin.

I am completely flummoxed as to what assumptions I can make..

I am assuming that since we are asked to use Gauss that I should use a spherical symmetry..
I also think that where r<a the field should be zero, but can I assume that the charge lies on the inner surface only for this region?
And where r>b should I treat the whole dstribution as a point charge?
Also, I have started trying to find E inside the a<r<b, using Q= integral(roe dV),and I end up with a term involving b^3-a^3.

If anybody could tell me if I'm on the right track of give me any pointers it would be very much appreciated.

Many thanks.
 
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For r<a, Gauss shows that E=0.
For r>b, you aare right about the point charge.
Just use Gauss carefully for a<r<b.
Avoid integral rho dV.
 
Hey thanks. In that case should I just leave integral (E.da) = rho/epsilon, ie leaving rho as is?
 
Joan said:
Hey thanks. In that case should I just leave integral (E.da) = rho/epsilon, ie leaving rho as is?
No. Read up on using Gauss's law in your textbook. You are not using it correctly.
 
Hello, thankyou for your comments, I'm afraid I'm still stuck though...
I'm sure I'm being fairly thick here.
Gauss's law tells us that the flux through the chosen Gaussian surface (from the net electric field) is equal to the charge enclosed by the Gaussian surface divided by the permittivity of the material.
I suppose my question is where do I put my surfaces? I don't think it is OK either to assume that the charge resides on the two 'edges' (ie where r=a and r=b), as I am not told that the region is conducting. I think this would make the electric field zero in the region, due to the symmetry of the shells, is this right? If i integrate from a to b its no longer a surface but a volume...Can I do that? I really don't know where to go. (should I be working out the charge enclosed some other way to the one i suggested above? Would it be acceptable to find the fields for two solid spheres and then subtract the small from the large?) Sorry again for complete ineptitude and any help really is appreciated!

ps, apologies for continual edits...
 
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