How can I calculate the maximum height reached by a model rocket?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum height reached by a model rocket based on its time of descent after reaching that height. Participants explore the physics involved, particularly the effects of gravity and the equations of motion, while addressing a specific homework problem.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the problem, noting that the answer key states the maximum height is 120 m, but they are unsure how to arrive at this conclusion given only the time of descent and acceleration due to gravity.
  • Another participant suggests using the formula D=RT (distance = rate x time) but expresses uncertainty about its applicability due to the changing rate of ascent and descent influenced by gravity.
  • A third participant calculates the distance fallen in 5 seconds using the formula s(t) = 1/2 a t², arriving at a height of 122.5 m, which they attribute to the acceleration due to gravity.
  • A later reply critiques the initial suggestion of D=RT, explaining that the average speed must be considered since the rocket's speed is zero at its peak. They derive the maximum height using the average speed during the descent, confirming the earlier calculation of 122.5 m.
  • This participant emphasizes that the method used is valid only under constant acceleration, suggesting that calculus would be necessary if acceleration were not constant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to calculating the maximum height using the principles of physics, but there is some disagreement regarding the initial formula suggested and its applicability to the problem. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering constant acceleration and the implications of using average speed in their calculations. There are also references to the limitations of the D=RT formula in this context.

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I have to take a final soon and I have practise questions The only one here I am having trouble with is thislast one. This question bugs me and the answer key doesn't show how to do it

After a model rocket reached its maximum height, it then too 5.0 seconds to return to the launch site. What is the approximate maximum height reachd by the rocket? {Neglect air resistance.}

the answer is 120 m

the only info u have is time and acceleration

How do I go about doing it?
 
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the rocket going up is confusing, but i think this is what you're looking for:
simply, D=RT (distance=rate x time, if you're not familiar with it)

my guess is that this is not correct because you have to take into account the return of the rocket because of gravity. so something you muliply by either 2 or 1/2. maybe...
 
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The question asks: how far does something fall in 5 seconds, when its acceleration (due to gravity) is a = 9.8 m/s^2?

s(t) = 1/2 a t2, where t = 5, yields 122.5 m.

- Warren
 
Maximus, "D= RT" only applies when R is a constant.

If R is changing at a constant rate (that is the rate of change of R is a constant) then you can use an "averaging" method. When the rocket was at it's peak, it's speed was 0 (that's why it stopped going up!). After 5 seconds at a constant acceleration of -9.8 m/s^2, it's speed is -9.8*5= -49 m/s (Since the rate of change of speed, acceleration, is constant, you CAN use "RT"). The average of the two values is (0+(-49)/2= -24.5. Using that average value, in 5 seconds, the rocket will fall -24.5*5= -122.5 m. The rocket must have fallen from a height of 122.5 m, value chroot (Warren) gave.

Using "g" instead of -9.8 m/s^2 and t instead of 5 seconds, the two speeds are 0 and -gt so the "average" speed is (0-gt)/2= -gt/2.
Multiplying that by t to get distance gives (-g/2)t^2, the formula chroot used.

Again, this only works when the acceleration is constant (a very important special case!). If the acceleration (in general "rate of change of the rate of change") is not constant, then you will have to learn calculus!
 

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