View Full Version : 2nd order DE, is there a way to solve this without series?
aeroegnr
Jun17-04, 12:17 PM
It looks simple enough:
y'' + x*y = x^2
However, I tried and I could not find a nontrivial solution to the homogeneous equation:
y'' + x*y = 0
Am I right in thinking you need to solve this with series?
No need to actually do it, I just need to know if it is possible otherwise (like variation of parameters or something else).
can you use integrating factor?
aeroegnr
Jun18-04, 04:25 PM
For a 2nd order equation? I know how to do that for first order but not second order equations.
Dr Transport
Jun18-04, 06:41 PM
The homogeneous equation looks like the Airy equation.....
aeroegnr
Jun18-04, 07:45 PM
Ah, so only power series is it then?
That's fine. It's just for some reason I thought I wasn't understanding some kind of trick to give a general solution.
It's almost like I saw an integral of
\int e^x^2 dx
Which of course can only be done with power series, and thought I could integrate it and give a nice general solution.
arildno
Jun19-04, 03:43 AM
You could say that you get a "nice" general solution by dubbing it as Ai(x)..:biggrin:
noppakhuns
Jun19-04, 04:58 AM
If y1 is known, you can use reduction of order to solve this.
Dr Transport
Jun19-04, 12:16 PM
if memory serves me correctly, the Airy equation is proportional to a Bessel function of 1/3 order......Look out there online.
Max0526
Jun22-04, 08:11 AM
Hi;
Look at this: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/AiryDifferentialEquation.html.
Max.
selfAdjoint
Jun24-04, 05:06 PM
Has anyone tried this one in MAPLE? There might be a Bessel function integrating factor of the homogeneous equation (just interested, that's all, Max's link gives the answer).
cookiemonster
Jun24-04, 07:08 PM
Mathematica gives:
Edit: Something too long or not properly formatted for PF to handle... But it was pretty much the Airy function.
cookiemonster
heardie
Jun30-04, 09:18 PM
The homogenous equation:
\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+xy=0 is a negative sign off the Airy equation:
\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}-xy=0
Therefore the solution of the original DE
\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+xy=x^2 is given by
y = CAiryAi(-x) + DAiryBi(-x)+x
where AiryAi and AiryBi, are independant solutions of the Airy equation.
Indeed the Airy functions are related to the Bessel functions.
Finally one can expland the answer as a series with the Gamma function appearing everywhere - nasty.
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