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Math Is Hard
Jun20-04, 12:53 AM
My teacher gave us this problem in class and then when she went to show us how to solve, she got stuck too!
1+xy = xy'
after some rearranging and dividing we have
y' - y = 1/x
we used an integrating factor of e^ {-x}
and got the result of (e^ {-x}y)' = e^ {-x}/x
integrating gives (e^ {-x}y) = {\int e^ {-x}/x \dx}
and that's about where we got stuck. Integration by parts just took us in a loop.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Gokul43201
Jun20-04, 11:51 AM
My teacher gave us this problem in class and then when she went to show us how to solve, she got stuck too!
1+xy = xy'
after some rearranging and dividing we have
y' - y = 1/x
we used an integrating factor of e^ {-x}
and got the result of (e^ {-x}y)' = e^ {-x}/x
integrating gives (e^ {-x}y) = {\int e^ {-x}/x \dx}
and that's about where we got stuck. Integration by parts just took us in a loop.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
I think you/she got stuck there because the integral of {e^ {-x}/x \dx} has no analytic form - it diverges at x=0
Math Is Hard
Jun20-04, 02:29 PM
Thanks, Gokul.
so as far as the solution for y , do you just throw up your hands and say "OK, divergent, can't be solved since the integral won't converge" or can you express y as something like this and call that the solution?
y = {e^ {x}\int e^ {-x}/x \dx}
Tom Mattson
Jun20-04, 03:20 PM
I think you/she got stuck there because the integral of {e^ {-x}/x \dx} has no analytic form - it diverges at x=0
You are correct about both of those statements, but I think I should clarify by saying that one has nothing to do with the other. The integral of exp(-x2) has no analytic form, and it doesn't diverge anywhere. Conversely, the integral of tan(x) does have an analytic form, and it diverges at (2n+1)π/2, for any integer n.
Math Is Hard,
Yes, you can leave an integral as part of a solution.
Math Is Hard
Jun20-04, 07:52 PM
Thanks, Tom.
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