What would the universe be like....

[wonderer]

If ....There were nothing but points of energy fading in and out out of existance, in a random manner. Like a tv tuned to no station. All they do is increase and decrease in cycles over and over. To be simple the max could be 10 and min could be 1. At this point there would be two states , increase or decrease, (Direction). A (Rate) of change would be nice too. And of course a present (Value). A Vibration needs a (Center point).
Now they would need to react with each other to produce a result. A good example would be the temp of two objects,(A)(B). A is at 30 and decreasing by 2 per sec. If B is at 20 and decreasing by 5 per sec, then A's rate should increase and B's should decrease. If B was at 30 and increasing then both the Rates would decrease(increasing the cycles life time).
The offset of the C would probaly cause a wobble maybe even have a part in North and South poles, and the way objects spin. And possibly cause compression and expantion somewhere down the line.
As I look into the night sky I see lots of bright burning(Hot) objects, I here about comets(Cold) and astroids, just rocks. So using the above, objects containing cycles at 80 could be mostly in stars until the decay kicks in. cycles at 30 could be in comets and cycles at 50 could be in astroids.

So using the V,R,D and sometimes C should work with most anything, right?

[connect]

My friend you are moving in the same direction I.

I believe I have a sound model of the universe and I want to share it with everyone!

[wonderer]

So..........What happened after the......"I want to share it with everyone!"....
Your keyboard break???

[connect]

Sorry, I've been telling people and they seem disinterested.

The universe is a matrix of balls (I will call them tiles) that have been predicted by string theory.

The tiles are all exactly the same in as much as they have maximum and minimum size.
The tiles are arranged in a system where if you where to put a line through the center of every tile (ball) you would get a square grid system.

That is the basic definition of space, it could of course be infinite.

Time is created by the behaviour of the tiles.

If you where to take a 2d model of the matrix, with just 2 axis and think of them in a chequer board arrangement, we have black/white squares or alpha/omega tiles.

The alpha and omega tiles take it turn to compress and expand.

All the tiles compress and expand at the same rate.

All alpha tiles, and then all omega tiles compress and expand, at the same rate.

Alpha, Omega, Alpha, Omega.

This is the effect of time, which is infinite.

In our chequer board example one omega is surrounded by 4 alpha.

This means at the end of the alpha cycle the omega tile absorbs energy from 4 points (in the 2d model).

So the omega compresses to the exact amount it absorbed.

If different amounts (percentage's of energy) are absorbed at the different points the tile will still compress but will be offset from the center.

Now here is the key bit, Im going to break it down into 1 axis so we have a row of tiles


Alpha, Omega, Alpha, Omega.

In this case the omega tile is absorbing energy from from 2 points.

If different amounts are absorbed by each point the tile will be offset to the left or right (assuming the are looked at horizontially).

Now, this is the sweet bit!

On expanding there are 3 things that are going to happen:

1 - the left side of the compressed omega tile has to reach its alpha connection point.
2 - the right side of the compressed omega tile has to reach its alpha connection point.
3 - the center point must reach its center.

If you think about this, the only time this can be the case is when it is at its maximum size.

If the compressed tile is offset (from the center) to the left for example:

Now, I hope you are still with me cos this is the final bit!

1 - The right side (point) of the tile moves rightwards AND the center point moves rightwards.
2 - The left side (point) of the tile moves in leftwards BUT the center point moves rightwards.

Is this making sense? That is the model but i may need to do a diagram to explain the math.

The effect is basically a transfer of energy, in 1 axis the energy travels in a straight line.

In 2d, energy a can be influenced by energy b which are travelling in different directions, once they meet their path starts to meander like a river.

In 3d, you get, 3d fractcals, like people.

Any questions?

[connect]

Oh yes, when a tile is compressed above 50% it creates heat/light.
Less than 50 % is cold/dark.

[connect]

When tiles compress above 50% you start to get clustering (its like a flapping effect).

A planet is hot in the center and is surrounded by cold.

Same as a human body, listen to your heart beat:

Alpha, Omega, Alpha, Omega.

Start with bass, move up to treble, through darkness and up to light.

Our eyes are types of ears.

Sound is lights true opposite not darkness, an opposite is something of EQUAL force.

Darkness is low frequency light, while bass low frequency treble.


This is the truth behind true and false.

[connect]

The extra dimensions in string theory are the space between the tiles.

http://superstringtheory.com/basics/basic4.html

[wonderer]

Basically I described a 3d matrix of points that is infinite. ....Until someone shows me the end , at which time I'd really wanna know what on the other side. So far were in the same ball park. But now we part. No STRINGS attatched....
Their phases happen randomly and not together. The real magic happens in one point's reaction to its neighbors. Thats it....nothing more.
The characteristics of the point's:
1)Value
2)Rate of change
3)Direction
4)Center point (of vibration, not area)naturally at 0 until an offset is caused by reaction with others.
I only wanted to know what these would Not work with.
Its really simple as points alone.But it gets really complex in the reaction to each other.

[connect]

Science is the arbitary division of the whole to study the wonder of its movement.

[connect]

Some diagrams:

Tile Based World - Tile Cycle - Perceptual Range

[wonderer]

Would freqency modulation have a play any where? Say from...one point directly to another at any distance?

[connect]

The frequency is the compression rate being passed down the line.

Waves are caused by the meandering effect of the energy path and classic physics/maths.

A place would start knowing about a coming peice of energy before the energy actually gets there, which I think they observered recently.

[wonderer]

So with "string theory" and all that is actually known. What can't be explained?

[Erck]

How something came from nothing?

If and how it might return to nothing?

Why multiples of anything isn't the same as a single thing?

Why they seem to smell a lot like "wavicles?"

The space inbetween the strings?

The space outside the furthermost string?

The container the strings and the space are in?

What's outside the container?

What's outside of that?

Ad infinitum.

[connect]

The universe is a fixed or static structure of sphere like tiles, this structure allows all activity to happen within it. It is the behaviour of the sphere tiles that creates movement. The best anology is a TV screen which is made of square tiles called pixels.

Each pixel is the same size but in a different LOCATION, each pixel can dislplay ONE colour from a range between black and white at ONE time.

Each sphere tile is the same size but in a different LOCATION, each sphere tile can generate ONE tempreture from a range between hot and cold at ONE time.

Time is circular, our perception is linear.

[wonderer]

Why does everything need a begining? Maybe its just been that way and always will.
Or even could be caused by a variation(maybe realized it wasnt a single entity).So everthing is made of energy, yes? We are energy, we learn, So does the universe.
I just cant see a further most string, only time till the next would be known. Wouldnt the universe's fixed size only be determined by area and time? Take the furthermost star, suppose someone/something is there thinking the same. Maybe times with no apparent activity in some areas more than others.

[wonderer]

Maybe someday some programer will write code for takin all the theories , pickin out only the right parts by checkin all thats known by man to solve it all in one done deal...

[connect]

This is what I am trying to tell you!

The mind is the absolute point from which all measurements are taken.

The 2 infinities are space and time.

ALL measurements in physics watch something move THROUGH space and THROUGH time.

ALL phenoma happens SOMEWHERE at SOMETIME.

[connect]

Image 2 spheres in a row, Alpha first, Omega second.

Imagine the 2 spheres where 2 representations of the whole universe.

Now I am going to START time and say that Omega makes a copy of Alpha but changes very slighty, then Alpha makes a copy of Omega but slightly different again.

TIME is a circular process, but WE find it easier to percieve it as linear.

[connect]

Tick, tock, tick, tock, like feet walking down the street.

Fractals, our body has 5 nodes (head, arms and legs), our hands and feet are bodies with five nodes (thumbs, fingers and toes).

The are 5 original string theory equasions, 4 of them are pairs of dualities.

Our arms and legs total 4, 2 pairs.

Each single leg has a duality embedded in it, the potential to be a strong or weak force (i.e. be taking a step on the ground or being carried by the other step).

All dualities are REALLY 2 points that define a possible range.

Think about these statements:

What is the truth behind true and false?

Is your glass half full or half empty?

My glass is never empty and always filling.

Am I Pro-war, Anti-war, Pro-peace or Anti-peace?

We dont know who will win the election, but we know there is going to be one, every so many number of years.

- The present has a future and history
- The present is the future of history.
- The present will be the future history.

The universe is changing constantly, the only constant being change.

Words have different meanings and meanings different words.

The meaning of life is to give life meaning.

Once a seed is placed in the ground a set of conditions will be right and a tree will be spontaneously born.

These conditions are a duality, seed and earth.

Males have sperm(seed), females have whom(earth).

Time is a duality, it has 2 aspects:

A tree lives in a world of days and nights (circular/pendulum effect of time) but grows bigger and upwards (linear effect of time).

[connect]

I will explain the keys to your mind:

Key 1 -

The first atom said to the second atom, I've lost an electron!
The second atom said to the first atom, are you sure?
The first atom said to the second atom, yes, I'm positive.

Instead of 2 electrons, we have 1 'orbiting' electron with a 'degree' of positivity.

Key 2 -

There are some hidden measurements in that model.

1 The electron (minimum size)
2 The nucleus (medium size)
3 The orbit (maximum size)

Key 3 -

The nucleus, electron and orbit are the same thing.

At maximum size it can only be in one location (the full volume), at its minimum size it is a point and can be any where within the area defined by its maximum size (its a sphere which has space inside it, this space is its volume).

Key 4 -

The atom is a tile.

It has an outer perimeter and an inner space, the inner space can compress creating heat/light.

Tiles compress because they absorb energy from surrounding tiles and expand to expel the energy to surrounding tiles.

Alpha, Omega, Alpha, Omega.

Your heart beats and your lungs breath.

true-true : true-false : false-true : false-false

[wonderer]

That was mostly in reply to "Erck".

Remember this>>>"Basically I described a 3d matrix of points that is infinite. ....Until someone shows me the end , at which time I'd really wanna know what on the other side."
>>>>>infinite

And left "Known" out of "Take the furthermost star"....Sorry.

And I could imagine two universes, as their points (breathed) between each other shifting between two univereses. Where we would see an increase here the other would be on the decrease.

You say the atom is one tile , why not a group of groups of clusters mearly working together as a group til their time is done?

Does string theory explain decay?

[connect]

Image we are on a train, the train is moving.

2 people are in the middle and start running, one to each end.

1 of them is moving with the motion of the train.
1 of them is moving against the motion of the train.

Now we can study the movement of these people from 2 places.

From on the train, or off it.

We are taking measurements from ourselves.

We can measure the movement relative to the floor of the train or the floor of the ground (the 2 places where we can possibly stand).

If we stand on the train we disclude the trains movement because we are moving with it.

If we stand on the ground we include the trains movement because we are not moving with it.

[Erck]

That was mostly in reply to "Erck". Does string theory explain decay?
I'm not sure if string theory explains decay... but my post in regards to your question "what does string theory NOT explain?"... is meant to point out that string theory doesn't seem to even come close to being the Theory of Everything as it has been coined.
A real TOE needs to answer the "big" questions (some of them I listed)... it doesn't seem to do that.

[wonderer]

The real magic happens in one point's reaction to its neighbors.


So the big hang up is in ourselves, perception and perspective? Not what is, just our veiw of what is. Which is interaction.

Would it be better to say "We know not what is, only what is not"?.

[connect]

I think it would be better to say - "We dont know what is not, only what is."

Imagine if the point (absolute) from which your measuring is moving as you measure.

[connect]

Do we move from our minds when we think about the world?

Our mind is the absolute point, the start point.

Think about it

The universe could of:

- Had a start BUT have no end.
- Had a start AND will have an end.
- Never had start BUT will have an end.
- Never had start AND will never have an end.

Space and time appear to be infinite (as far as we know).

We move around space and through time.

[wonderer]

Its nothing but perception of the statement. either way is only partially right.

Suppose you have 3 choices, only 1 is right:a,b or c.

You would need to observe all three to "know" the right one.

And in doing so.....you "know" the wrong ones too.

[wonderer]

So if its infinite....then it will never be "known".

[connect]

We already have knowledge, its understanding we lack.

[Reflector]

Why does life exist? Why do YOU exist? Evolution.

[connect]

In maths there are constants implying somethings never change.
In maths there are infinities implying somethings always change.

The structure of space is constant.
The effects of time are infinite.

[connect]

Alot of physics map something through space over time.

Another way of putting is that physics maps movement through each tile (each tile is a division of sum of tiles) of the structure (sum of the tiles).

Think about minutes one after the other, with no begining or end, cyclic.
Think about minutes one after the other, with a begining and end, linear.

[wonderer]

Is this right :
0 times any is 0. infinty times any is infinity.

Apllied to reason and understanding would result in the same.

So "why" ask what WILL NEVER BE KNOWN.
In that case the only real cycle would be in the mind.

[connect]

Thats exactly right.

Cycles ALWAYS have a start and begining but can repeat for ever.

Lines DONT HAVE TO have a begining and end but can extend forever.

WE create the begining (and end) of time and space in our minds.

We observe things though lifecycles (line-cycles).

We do expreiments that have begining and end. But the SPACE and TIME in which we insert our beginings and ends was already there!!!

Consider a graph with Time on 1 axis and Space on the other, you automatically get a matrix!!!

[connect]

Imagine 2 universe so tighly woven together throwing the power of each to each other.

Swaying and pulsing.

[connect]

This model 'in a nutshell' is 2 parallel 'matrix' universes tightly woven together (at string ratio level), they basically take it turns to represent the movement of energy through/by space and through/by time.

(egyptian ra aspects, taoism ying/yang, the dance of shakta/shiva(?), genesis adam/eve (tree (combination of linear and circular effects) of knowledge of good and evil means the ability to make distinctions between things, to be as gods, create and destroy, i think its implying the responsibility that comes with knowledge (the responsibility being understanding, i think understanding is common sense; knowledge/understanding - conscience/un conscience mind))

When one matrix is in its compress/expand cycle, the other is at rest; does being awake and sleeping sound familiar?

Higher compressions cause energy clustering, in 2d the clustering effect is like flapping, like a butterfly.

We as humans are created by the planet 'pulsing' and 'twisting', (lifted (shaked up) from the dust of the earth (carbon) with water/heat (vapour)).

This is why we like to dance!!

The universal turing machine can express all other turing machines, the turing machine has a set of atomic or primitive operations.

What I am proposing is the universal atomic operations of nature, of which I believe string theory predicts. The tiles which have a set of atomic operations (making them turing machines) creating endless numbers of 'clustered' turing machines (big things are always lots of small things).

4 Dualities

1 - Static + Dynamic = Complex (or Simple + Diverse = Richness)

2 - Cyclic + Linear = Expodential (or Days + Lifetime = Growth)

3 - Internal + External = Difference (Its only in difference that similarities occur, if things where not different they would be the same, hence there would be no similarities, - im hinting at fractals)

4 - Heat + Cold = Life

The Planet is hot internally and cold externally.
Humans are warm internally and cold externally.
(Externally = Surrounded By)

The model I am proposing produces 3d fractals.

The human body has 5 nodes, a head, 2 arms and 2 legs.
The hands have 5 nodes as do the feet.

There where 5 original (or primitive) string theory equations. 4 of the 5 where pairs of dualities:

Strong/Weak
Short/Long (I think this refers to distance)

Imagine walking down the street, each leg taking it in turn to be the strong force while the other the weak?

This reminds me of super symmetry, walking also includes waves. Walking is moving through space over time or over space and through time.

[Reflector]

Why does the Universe exist? You don't get something for nothing. You evolve to stay alive.... So then is the Universe itself a state of perfect evolution?

[selfAdjoint]

Evolution require an earlier form or state, no? You have to evolve FROM something. So to attribute evolution to the universe you wind up with two choices: an infinite regress of prior states, or a single unexplained prior state. But these are the same two choices Aristotle found, and was distressed by, and which Kant used to illustrate the meanglessness of such speculation, since the one is as stupid as the other.

[Reflector]

...............the perfect state of evolution prevents us (the imperfect state of evolution) from knowing these reasons..... I'm not talking about evolution as in development. I'm actually talking about COMPETITION between life-forms in order to exist, the basis for the Universe's own existence - COMPETITION. To win to exist. What I mean is, to us what we may call 'prior' does not actually mean what we think it does. It is a simplistic point of view which gets us confused as you stated. Competition is not straightforward like that. It's really complicated....

[Erck]

It's really complicated....
It sure is... ain't it?

[connect]

Consider progression from a relative persepective, the human race develops, but human individuals die. Maybe the human race will die one day. Life in some form will always develop.

Things can reach a peak, maybe its just not possible to do somethings, it certainly seems that way. The human race works really hard, but where is the cut off point? When do we reach our peak? When we are immortal?

Maybe the peak is life!!! The tip of the iceburg!!

My point is that there seem to be 2 things that always tie everything together.

Time and space(or distance/movement through/around). Take away one and everything becomes nothing.
Interestingly enough they can both be 'static' as in a mathematical expression or both be 'dynamic' as in real life. There is no half way house, i.e static time and dynamic space .

Think about a sentence.

Your consience mind (virtualisation tunnel) reads the incoming representation of the words (shapes/symbols), but the unconsience mind makes sense of the overall meaning.

Maybe 'why does the universe exist' is the wrong question, maybe 'why do things exist in the universe' is a better, it 'seems' to make more 'sense', but that may only be to me because i think time and space are the cornerstone constants.

[Erck]

Maybe 'why does the universe exist' is the wrong question, maybe 'why do things exist in the universe' is a better, it 'seems' to make more 'sense', but that may only be to me because i think time and space are the cornerstone constants.
Why do time and space exist?

At what time and in what space did time and space come into being?

At what time and in what space did the universe come into being?

Something (time and space included) somehow came from nothing... or something always existed... somehow.

[connect]

Time and space exist because they are the 'key' requirements of reality.

All religion/science can fit in to the 4 possible 'belief' types of 'universe' scenarios:

There was A beginning AND there will be AN end.

There was A beginning BUT there will be NO end.

There was NO beginning BUT there will be AN end.

There was NO beginning AND there will be NO end.

The big bang model 'believes' in one of the first too, I believe in the last one.

It makes things ever so simple then.

[connect]

Have included another visualisation of model.

[wonderer]

Wouldnt reaction have something to do with a new begining?

And that reaction seeking equalibrium establish a "sense of time"?

If one square light year produced one new atom(or part) every day , We'd never be able to "know" with no guess work. But it would be possible to do.And at the same time one atom would be naturally reaching decay. And because all this stuff we call matter is in different states(forms) not just one big chunk ,While its not ended yet , wouldnt it be safe to assume something random and repeating?

[connect]

Things are not random.

Things come into being or happen (move/change) when the conditions are right.

[wonderer]

Ok,
"When the conditions are right" >>> to produce any results that lasts any time...
I used the word random to descibe a difference in conditions at the same time.

If conditions are not in sync then they will seek equalibrium. right?
That means conditions must not be equal to get a change in reaction. right?
And "REACTION" could define What the universe is. ....REACTION.
And "NOTHING" could be defined as "LACK OF REACTION".

With no reaction there is nothing. Life is reaction. Matter is reaction....
The universe is reaction.

Does any of this seem close?

[connect]

I used the word random to descibe a difference in conditions at the same time.

If conditions are not in sync then they will seek equalibrium. right?

The conditions are already in sync, the are happening a the same time, i.e. synchronised.

[wonderer]

Ok, that was twisted.
sync---bad word. try different. Not talking about time.

If conditions are different then they will seek equalibrium. right?

[wonderer]

And right now conditions are different. Else there would be no change in reaction. right?

Dropping the vibrations from nowhere,
would this be better-----
I used the word random to descibe a difference in conditions at the same time AND AT DIFFERENT DISTANCES.

apply reaction in distance to produce a result...
Reaction within reaction......nested.

REACTION
DISTANCE
REACTION LEVELS

Is this close?

[wonderer]

Does anything I've posted here seem right to anyone , or am I just a crazy loon with wild imagination?

[Terry Giblin]

I too am trying to find scientists to confirm or deny my own theory, by simply proving that no one truly understands the basic fundermental properties of nature. If they did they would be able to explain what an electron is.

If your theory is correct you should be able to answer the simple questions,

What is an electron?

What is time?

What is a gravity?

And including the questions raised at Strings 2000

"Are all the (measurable) dimensionless parameters that characterize the physical universe calculable in principle or are some merely determined by historical or quantum mechanical accident and uncalculable? "

David Gross, Institute for Theoretical Physics, University of California, Santa Barbara

"How can quantum gravity help explain the origin of the universe?"

Edward Witten, California Institute of Technology and Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton

"What is the lifetime of the proton and how do we understand it?"

Steve Gubser, Princeton University and California Institute of Technology

"Is Nature supersymmetric, and if so, how is supersymmetry broken?"
Sergio Ferrara, CERN (European Laboratory of Particle Physics)
Gordon Kane, University of Michigan

"Why does the universe appear to have one time and three space dimensions? "
Shamit Kachru, University of California, Berkeley
Sunil Mukhi, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research
Hiroshi Ooguri, California Institute of Technology

"Why does the cosmological constant have the value that it has, is it zero and is it really constant? "
Andrew Chamblin, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Renata Kallosh, Stanford University

"What are the fundamental degrees of freedom of M-theory (the theory whose low-energy limit is eleven-dimensional supergravity and which subsumes the five consistent superstring theories) and does the theory describe Nature? "
Louise Dolan, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Annamaria Sinkovics, Spinoza Institute
Billy & Linda Rose, San Antonio College

"What is the resolution of the black hole information paradox?"
Tibra Ali, Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, Cambridge
Samir Mathur, Ohio State University

"What physics explains the enormous disparity between the gravitational scale and the typical mass scale of the elementary particles? "
Matt Strassler, Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton

"Can we quantitatively understand quark and gluon confinement in Quantum Chromodynamics and the existence of a mass gap? "
Igor Klebanov, Princeton University
Oyvind Tafjord, McGill University

[selfAdjoint]

OK, that's enough with the Strings 2000 questions. Parsimony, parsimony!

[connect]

It is maybe not questions that need to be answered! Maybe it is the correct question (or key) put to the problem (or door) that will reveal (or unlock) the answer (what's behind the door?)

Have you ever thought about what YOU really are?

The finer and finer our knowledge and understanding of everything becomes, the more and more we realise that we are made up of the same stuff.

Gravity comments

We are a 'component' of our planets 'framework', we exist in a 'layer' of our planet.

Our 'layer' has a 'scope' from the top of the 'crust layer' to the 'atmosphere layer'.

Our 'layer' has a 'pull' than 'push' effect (or inwards:absorbing/outwards:expelling), where the 'pull' slightly stronger.

A tree over time 'pushes' upwards, as it moves upwards it is also 'spun' in a manner like a vortex.

In a spacestation we are attempting to recreate a 'virtual earth layer'.

Electron comments

Mathematical constructs are 'static approximations' of 'regular features' of ' energy movement' in a 'dynamic environment'.

Mathematical expressions are the 'relationships' between 'static approximations'.

Numbers are used to 'relate a series' of 'regular (circular) divisions' of 'static approximations' that are used as 'frames' to produce a 'virtual dynamic environment'.

This 'virtual dynamic environment' can be used to 'study the effects' of 'enegry movement' at a 'particular ratio' in 'relation to ourselves' or 'standardized measures' we use to 'communicate'.

[wonderer]

Maybe its simply reaction, or is that too simple to except?

Perception.......?

Things can probagate and/or be direct.
The result of both in tandem just might explain something.

[Chronos]

Bad dog, use math. Imagination will always draw a crowd. Many moths have died needlessly around the campfire. I flunked physics 401 the first time because I was too lazy to stay up all night to work out my DEQ homework.

[connect]

Whats DEQ?

Numeric or Logical math?

[wonderer]

On a silver platter....right?

Picture this......remember the triangle for fire.
ABILITY
SPACE
TIME

TIME IS NOT AN ENTITY OR OBJECT.

[connect]

Maybe its simply reaction, or is that too simple to except?

Perception.......?

Things can probagate and/or be direct.
The result of both in tandem just might explain something.

'Both in tandem' - are you refering to the fact our perceptions behaviour is similar to the behaviour of nature?

[Chronos]

DEQ: aka diffEQ = differential equations. I'm still reluctant to even attempt mapping 11 dimensional space-time to find the missing TOE. Crap, I'm still trying to figure out 4 dimensional space-time. Confusing. I can only see 4 dimensions, but, it takes 11 dimensions to explain them. I shudder to think how many dimensions it will take to explain the 'missing' 7 once they are found. Must be a string theory thing. The more you unravel it, the more you get strung on.

[selfAdjoint]

DEQ: aka diffEQ = differential equations. I'm still reluctant to even attempt mapping 11 dimensional space-time to find the missing TOE. Crap, I'm still trying to figure out 4 dimensional space-time. Confusing. I can only see 4 dimensions, but, it takes 11 dimensions to explain them. I shudder to think how many dimensions it will take to explain the 'missing' 7 once they are found. Must be a string theory thing. The more you unravel it, the more you get strung on.

Not so. The extra dimensions in string physics come from the need to describe the string consistently, not explaining lower dimensions. And they've had stable numbers for decades: 28 for bosonic strings, 10 for superstrings, 11 for M-theory. With clear, if technical, explanations of why they are different.

[wonderer]

'Both in tandem' - are you refering to the fact our perceptions behaviour is similar to the behaviour of nature?

No.
Throw a ball.(direct)
Play music.(probagate)
Tape a walkman to the ball then throw it. The sound changes(both in tandem)

MATH
To do the math for each "whole" would include:
All the Space,All the Abilities(Vibrations for one) and All the time for that "whole" and each sub-level"whole" and each neighbor.

Else the math will never be right!

[wonderer]

ANOLOGY

Apply anology->->A TRAIN WHISTLE.

Apply anology to this framework.
Do the math.

[wonderer]

"resistance is futile"

[wonderer]

Ok, just in case the words "resistance is futile" was misunderstood. That was only meant to be funny....

[wonderer]

Is quantum mechanics more or less a way to avoid doing all the math beyond a certain precision?

[selfAdjoint]

Is quantum mechanics more or less a way to avoid doing all the math beyond a certain precision?


No, not at all. Perturbation theory could be described that way; express physics as an infinite series and only do the first n terms. But perturbation is a feature of work in classical physics too, for example celestial mechanics. If you mean uncertainty, that's not a cop-out, but a severe constraint, which has to be dealt with, and it does not prevent exact depictions in particlular cases. For example the photons in a laser beam all have the same frequency, hence momentum, to a high degree of exactitude. Uncertainty then says that we can know nothing about the position of any particular photon in the beam.

Beyond the simple cases the equations of quantum mechanics tend to become insoluble in exact terms. So approximations have to be used. This again is a common feature of all kinds of physics.

[wonderer]

Wouldn't it be possible to eliminate the uncertainty for the anything if it were passing through space(not just nothing) reacting with it as it goes. Even though there would be little happening, there would still be some interaction. And don't forget the cost of shipping and handling.....

[Erck]

Uncertainty in the universe, isn't necessarily something we need to get rid of, to explain the universe.

It might be the most fundamental thing in the universe. If we didn't have uncertainty we wouldn't have change.

Getting beyond it, to explain the origin of the universe, is another thing though.

[Reflector]

Getting beyond the point... it's really about the shape 'm', 'w' and '-'......

[Reflector]

'-' coud not exist without 'm' and 'w'......

[wonderer]

I do appreciate your responses. It seems to me the answers went AROUND the question and didnt answer it...
Could anything be solved passing through space, not just nothing. With no approximations.

In this context NOTHING = LACK OF REACTION.

[wonderer]

Getting beyond the point... it's really about the shape 'm', 'w' and '-'......

I'm stupid. What exactly is m,w and -. shape in your terms?

[wonderer]

On a silver platter....right?

Picture this......remember the triangle for fire.
ABILITY
SPACE
TIME

TIME IS NOT AN ENTITY OR OBJECT.
Remove any one.....the whole is no more...

[Reflector]

No, I can't say. I'm just having fun by putting simple childish things which represent my theory which (I think) explains ALOT. If you choose to view them as childish then you are bypassing it.... :rofl:

[Reflector]

It's just a good way for Reflector to post his subliminal mysterious messages on the internet.... That's how I view it. What else am I going to do? I'm just in my room trying to make a cool environment for my self, and I don't have any friends....

[Reflector]

Sorry, I got side-tracked. 'M' and 'W' are the same thing viewed from different points of view.....

[wonderer]

Now that's a little more in the same ballpark.

[wonderer]

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0102/0102027.pdf

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/0310/0310188.pdf

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/0307/0307207.pdf

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/0301/0301116.pdf

[Chronos]

Not so. The extra dimensions in string physics come from the need to describe the string consistently, not explaining lower dimensions. And they've had stable numbers for decades: 28 for bosonic strings, 10 for superstrings, 11 for M-theory. With clear, if technical, explanations of why they are different.

Apologies. I can't resist poking fun at string theory. I will take it more seriously once a background independent version is proposed.

[Erck]

It does seem that any theory that uses mulitples of the same thing (albeit in different configurations), in this case strings... AND without explaining the "space" in between them... is presumably flawed.

Some seem to forget that it's all about a "singularity."

I got a "hair" theory I'll sell ya... much smaller than strings.

[wonderer]

Maybe.....just maybe you hit a direct bullseye....

A universe that should be something it...is not ...never was....and never will be.

[Erck]

There is no true solidity in the universe... nor does it ever truly disappear.

[wonderer]

And I believe the reason for this is that it is continually attempting to achieve something it can never achieve...by design. A simple flaw.

[Chronos]

String theory is elegant and attractive. Unfortunately, it makes no testable predictions, to date. That is my main objection.

[Erck]

And I believe the reason for this is that it is continually attempting to achieve something it can never achieve...by design. A simple flaw.
It seems like it's comfortable in it's imperfection though. Maybe not so much a flaw but a limit.

Kind of like saying "it's a fun job, I can't be boss, but I can't be fired either."

[wonderer]

Guess it could even be expressed as a Lot like "tug of war".....the rope could be a string. I have only read a few lines about string theory and heard about the same.So if it doesnt fit....

[wonderer]

but If It Does.....