Solar System Similar to Ours Found

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The discussion centers around the discovery of a solar system similar to ours, particularly focusing on the characteristics of a "Jupiter-like" planet with a circular orbit and its implications for the presence of an "Earth-like" planet. Participants explore the significance of orbital shapes in planetary systems and the potential for future observations of terrestrial planets.

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  • Some participants note that the circular orbit of the "Jupiter-like" planet may allow for the stability of smaller planets in the system, contrasting with the more common elliptical orbits found in other systems.
  • One participant provides specific data about the planet's eccentricity, orbital period, and mass, suggesting that the system's characteristics are intriguing compared to our solar system.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of an infinite and expanding universe, with some participants suggesting that such discoveries were inevitable under these conditions.
  • Participants express a desire for advancements in telescope technology to facilitate the detection of terrestrial planets in similar systems.
  • Questions arise regarding the distance of the newly discovered system from Earth, indicating a curiosity about its accessibility for study.

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Participants generally agree on the interesting nature of the discovery and the potential implications for planetary stability. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the nature of the universe (infinite vs. expanding) and the specifics of the solar system's characteristics, leaving some aspects of the discussion unresolved.

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Some claims about the characteristics of the solar system and the implications of its orbital dynamics depend on specific definitions and assumptions that are not fully explored in the discussion.

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http://www.msnbc.com/news/934038.asp

Its similar in that the "Jupiter-like" planet they've viewed in this case is caught in a circular orbit. Most of the planets found in other star systems are in the oval shaped orbit. The oval orbit of large planets tends to wack the smaller ones out of the system.

In this case there is a chance that an "earth-like" planet has remained in the system due to the circular orbit of the "Jupiter-like" planet. Check it out! Thanks.
 
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Originally posted by quantumcarl
http://www.msnbc.com/news/934038.asp

Its similar in that the "Jupiter-like" planet they've viewed in this case is caught in a circular orbit. Most of the planets found in other star systems are in the oval shaped orbit. The oval orbit of large planets tends to wack the smaller ones out of the system.

In this case there is a chance that an "earth-like" planet has remained in the system due to the circular orbit of the "Jupiter-like" planet. Check it out! Thanks.

glad to hear of HD70642
the eccentricity is estimated at 0.10 according to this extrasolar planets data site:

http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/planets/HD70642.html

their figure for the period is 2231 days
for the semimajor axis: 3.3 AU
for the mass (if system seen edge on) 2 jupiters

the journal article announcing it (authors include both Marcy and Butler who are veterans) is:

http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/planets/papers/hd70642-carter.pdf

at the end this article has nice plots of data, curves and
tables of the wobble speed.

the star is a metal rich G5, very similar to the sun in both mass and surface activity (they say)

the wobble speed amplitude is estimated at 32 meter/second

(the msn article you gave a link to may have a mistake, it said 7 m/s)

this is a real interesting system, 0.1 is still pretty eccentric by solar system standards I think. striking thing is the rarity of
only moderately eccentric jupiters at jupiter-like distances
solar system looks like as good as it ever gets compared with these others
 
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if the universe is infinite than it was bound to happen. Well not infinite but constanly exspanding
 
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Thanks for the link to the article, quantumcarl.
Now let's get those next generation telescopes up and running so we can detect some terrestrial planets!

Originally posted by The Grimmus
if the universe is infinite than it was bound to happen. Well not infinite but constanly exspanding

Possibly infinite AND expanding, but let's not get into that in this topic. :wink:
 
Hey Carl, where did you get that neat cube?

Also, did they mention how far away this system is?
 
Originally posted by Phobos
Thanks for the link to the article, quantumcarl.
Now let's get those next generation telescopes up and running so we can detect some terrestrial planets!



Possibly infinite AND expanding, but let's not get into that in this topic. :wink:

Yeah... or, we just keep an eye out for pirated TV signals of "I Love Lucy" and the "Tonight Show" emanating from one of these solar systems with a high metal pool sun. That wouldn't be to hard to miss!
 
Originally posted by Eh
Hey Carl, where did you get that neat cube?

Also, did they mention how far away this system is?

http://cfcp.uchicago.edu/lss/.. eh?
 
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