Speed light travels on earth and in our solar system

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The discussion centers on the speed of light and its implications within our solar system and the universe. It presents two hypotheses regarding the relationship between the velocity of light and its originator's motion. The first hypothesis suggests that light moves with its source's velocity, potentially altering perceived distances. The second hypothesis, which is favored, posits that all observers measure the same speed of light, regardless of the source's velocity, with Doppler effects causing redshift and blueshift phenomena that affect distance calculations. The conclusion emphasizes the complexity of measuring cosmic distances due to these relativistic effects.

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  • Understanding of the Doppler effect in physics
  • Familiarity with the theory of relativity
  • Knowledge of redshift and blueshift phenomena
  • Basic concepts of astronomical distance measurement
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We know the speed light travels on Earth and in our solar system, but if there is a universal speed max then one of two things must be true. One, light moves with its origanator's velocity and hence its own velocity to a subjective observer moving with the originator's velocity seems slower then the actual speed max. Say the sun is moving in any given direction at .25 of the max then light from the sun would be traveling at .75 max. Hence light moving from a star traveling at a slower velocity then ours would be faster then 'our' light. If it is faster it could reach us far sooner then we would expect it to and the ojects could be a lot closer, or inversly, a lot farther away if they are moving faster then us.
Two, if light does not move with its origantor's velocity and its origanator is moving at .25 max then it would be warped in the same manner as the doppler effect. This too would alter the calculations of distances between stars.
Since there is no absolute stationary point is it possible to know which of these hpothesis are true?
 
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The second one is closer to the truth. All observers measure the same velocity of light, irrespective of the velocity of the source. Light is doppler shifted depending upon the velocity of the source. It is 'redshifted' (wavelength increases) if the source is receeding and is 'blueshifted' (wavelength decreases) if the source is closing.
 
Hat_Man said:
We know the speed light travels on Earth and in our solar system, but if there is a universal speed max then one of two things must be true. One, light moves with its origanator's velocity and hence its own velocity to a subjective observer moving with the originator's velocity seems slower then the actual speed max. Say the sun is moving in any given direction at .25 of the max then light from the sun would be traveling at .75 max. Hence light moving from a star traveling at a slower velocity then ours would be faster then 'our' light. If it is faster it could reach us far sooner then we would expect it to and the ojects could be a lot closer, or inversly, a lot farther away if they are moving faster then us.
Two, if light does not move with its origantor's velocity and its origanator is moving at .25 max then it would be warped in the same manner as the doppler effect. This too would alter the calculations of distances between stars.
Since there is no absolute stationary point is it possible to know which of these hpothesis are true?

What makes you think that either alters the measurement of the distance between stars?
 

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