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The problem involves an electron launched at a 45-degree angle from the positive plate of a parallel-plate capacitor, with a given speed and distance traveled. Participants are exploring the electric field strength inside the capacitor and the minimum spacing between the plates.

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  • Participants discuss using the Lorentz force law and Newton's second law to find acceleration and subsequently apply kinematics. There are questions about the electric field strength and how to derive it without given values.

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Some participants have provided guidance on breaking down the problem into components and using kinematic equations. Others express uncertainty about the electric field and acceleration, indicating a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the concepts involved.

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One participant mentions that the Lorentz force law has not been covered in their coursework, which may limit their ability to apply certain concepts. There is also a suggestion to refer to textbooks for foundational information.

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An electron is launched at a 45 angle and a speed of 5.0*10^6 from the positive plate of the parallel-plate capacitor shown in the figure. The electron lands 4.0 cm away.

What is the electric field strength inside the capacitor?


What is the minimum spacing between the plates?


So what I have put together so far is that a=(q*E)/m but what does E equal to. Then once I have acceleration it becomes a kinematics.


Please help! Thanks so much
 

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The acceleration is found via the Lorentz force law and Newton's second law. Once you have the acceleration, as you say, it's just kinematics. It sounds like you have this one already figured out -- where exactly are you getting stuck?

- Warren
 
We haven't covered Lorentz force law.

Any more tips?

Thanks a bunch.
 
The Lorentz force law is:

[tex]\mathbf{F} = q \mathbf{E} + \mathbf{v} \times \mathbf{B}[/tex]

When the magnetic field is zero, it reduces to just

[tex]\mathbf{F} = q \mathbf{E}[/tex]

Given the electric field strength, all you need to do to find the force on a particle is multiply by the particle's charge.

- Warren
 
But what is the E field...its not given...


Any input?


Thanks.
 
This what i have so far:
(x)t = Vox * t
t=1.14*10^-7 seconds
I broke up the v0 into xy components v0x=3.5*10^5
v0y=3.5*10^5

The problem now is that

F=qE =
a=qE/m
I don't know the acceleration nor the E so this is where i am stuck at


PLEASE HELP!


THANKS SO MUCH
 
Do you not have a book? All of the things you're asking should be in it, probably even indexed.

The electron begins with a vertical (upward) velocity of [itex]v_{0y} = (5 \cdot 10^6~\textrm{m/s}) / \sqrt{2} = 3.5 \cdot 10^6~\textrm{m/s}[/itex], and a horizontal (rightward) velocity of the same magnitude, as you found.

The electric field is perpendicular to the plate, so it affects only the vertical motion, not the horizontal motion -- just like gravity.

The electron traveled 4.0 cm at its constant horizontal velocity. That took

[tex]t = \frac{0.04 \textrm m \cdot \sqrt{2}}{5 \cdot 10^6~\textrm{m/s}} = 11.31 \cdot 10^{-9}~\textrm{s}[/tex]

During that 11.31 nanosecond period, the electron's altitude above the plane went from zero, up to some maximal value, and back to zero again. The standard kinematic equation you need is

[tex]s(t) = v_0 t + \frac{1}{2} a t^2[/tex]

Plug in the initial vertical velocity and solve for the acceleration.

Now that you have the acceleration, you can use Newton's second law to get the force.

Now that you have the force, you can use the Lorentz force law ([itex]\mathbf F = q \mathbf E[/itex]) to get the E field.

The second part of the question is just asking you to the find the maximum altitude the electron gains above the plate. This is another basic kinematic result:

[tex]y_\textrm{max} = \frac{v_{0y}}{2a}[/tex]

- Warren
 
Think about the kinematics problem first.
Hint: Can you find the acceleration somehow?

Once you have acceleration, you can (using F=ma) find E since you already know (or can look up) the charge and mass of the electron.

To answer the last part, you might want to look at the kinematics problem again.
 
Thanks so much guys, I really appreciate it!
!
 

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