Magnitude of Acceleration Question

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The problem involves a projectile fired horizontally with an initial speed of 50.0 m/s, asking for the magnitude of its acceleration after 3 seconds while neglecting air resistance. The subject area pertains to kinematics and the effects of gravity on projectile motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the nature of acceleration in projectile motion, questioning the role of gravity and the effects of air resistance. Some explore the implications of initial speed on acceleration, while others clarify that acceleration remains constant regardless of speed when air resistance is neglected.

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The discussion has evolved with participants providing insights into the constant nature of gravitational acceleration and addressing misconceptions about velocity and acceleration. There is a recognition of the trap in the problem setup, with some participants expressing clarity after engaging with the responses.

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Participants are navigating the implications of neglecting air resistance and the constant acceleration due to gravity, with some confusion around the initial conditions and their relevance to the acceleration calculation.

Doug Desatnik
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A projectile is fired with an initial speed of 50.0 m/s. Neglect air
resistance. What is the magnitude of the acceleration of the projectile
3.00 sec after it is fired?

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I am using the following equation:

A=(V-Vo)/(T-To)

I set up the variables in the following way:

a = ?
Vo = 0 m/s
V = 50.0 m/s
To = 0 sec
T = 3 sec

When I do the math, the answer comes out to be 16.6 m/s. Can anybody verify that I did this problem correctly? If not then can anybody let me know where I might have gone wrong and pioint me toward the right track?

Thanks!

Doug
 
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The only force acting on the projectile is gravity so the acceleration should be g. Are you sure you stated the problem correctly?
 
You're off on the wrong track, I'm afraid.

Here's a simpler problem that may get you on the right track:

Drop an object from some height, h. When you release it, what's the acceleration of the object, neglecting air resistance?

1 second into the fall, what's the acceleration of the object?

2 seconds into the fall, what's the accelerationof the object?
 
Welcome to PF!

Think about it. What's the acceleration of a projectile at any time if air resistance is ignored? :smile:

Does that acceleration depend on the speed?
 
It seems there is only the gravity acceleration (10m/s^2). It is constant and doesn't depend on the speed.
 
Thank you all for your replies!

Here is the complete question
"A projectile is fired horizontally with an initial speed of 50.0 m/s. Neglect air resistance. What is the magnitude of the acceleration of the projectile 3.00 s after it is fired?"

Doc Al, wouldn't the acceleration of a projectile at any time if air resistance is ignored be constant, meaning that if air resistance is ignored the particle would never slow down right?

pervect, neglecting air resistance, the speed of the object would be the same at both 1 and 2 seconds right? Is saying "without air resistance" in effect referring to a vacuum?

Rogerio, How did you come up with 10 m/s^2?

- Doug
 
Doug Desatnik said:
Doc Al, wouldn't the acceleration of a projectile at any time if air resistance is ignored be constant
Yes, the acceleration is constant: acceleration due to gravity = g downwards, which is approximately 9.8 m/s^2 directed down.
, meaning that if air resistance is ignored the particle would never slow down right?
No, the acceleration is constant, not the velocity! Commonsense should tell you that what is thrown up will come down. :smile:
 
Yeah - what must come up MUST of course come down :) I get the difference between velocit and acceleration now.

So then to solve the problem at hand, I figure I need to use the laws of kinematics...

If so, the I set the variables up like so:

x = ? (NEED TO SOLVE FOR)
a = -9.80 ,/s^2
V(initial) = 50.0 m/s
V(final) = ?
t = 3 sec.

But I don't see a kinematics eauqtion to solve for X when presented with the a, V(initial) and time variables. All of these equations seem to need the V(final)??

Am I hopelessly lost on this or is there hope!? Are the kinematics equations what I need?

Thank!

- Doug
 
It's a trick question, Doug.
Students are meant to fall into this trap.
The acceleration is, and remains "g", irrespective the information you've been given concerning initial velocity.
hence, you don't need any equations to solve the problem properly.
 
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Ah-HA! Now I get it. It's like the light just went off after reading all of these replies. Now it makes total sense.

Thank you all for your help! I look forward to posting again and eventually being able to help others as well.

- Doug
 

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