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wasteofo2
Sep16-04, 08:44 PM
If one had no way of eating any protein, but could eat carbohydrates and something which had nitrogen that wasn't a protein, could their body assemble proteins to use, or does that mechanism not exist?

selfAdjoint
Sep17-04, 07:42 AM
Cows can do that, I believe, but not people. We have evolved to need some protein input.

aychamo
Sep17-04, 10:51 AM
I don't know anything about the metabolism.

But I do know that some amino acids have sulfur groups in them so you would have to have some sulfur source.

Monique
Sep17-04, 11:27 AM
Aychamo: amino acids have a NH3+ group, thus you need a nitrogen source (like wasteofo2 mentioned).

To answer his question: there are 10 essential amino acids that you need to get through your diet (arginine, histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan, valine), the other 10 are non-essential: those can be biosynthesized in adequate amounts.

The essential amino acids are generally the ones with complex structures: aromatic rings and hydrocarbon side-chains. The non-essential ones are those readily synthesized from abundant metabolites, such as intermediates in glycolysis or the citric acid cycle.

Plant proteins are generally deficient in lysine, methionine, or tryptophan, so a vegetarian should eat a varied diet to compensate the deficiency in one source by an excess in another.

aychamo
Sep17-04, 12:30 PM
Aychamo: amino acids have a NH3+ group, thus you need a nitrogen source (like wasteofo2 mentioned).


I know this. I said that some amino acids contain sulfur. That is Methionine and Cysteine. Eating only hydrocarbons and nitrogen wouldn't get you those :)

Monique
Sep17-04, 12:34 PM
ahh, you had me there :wink: you're right :approve:

aychamo
Sep17-04, 12:38 PM
I guess I should have said sulfur in their R-groups instead of saying they had sulfur groups. :)