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omni
Dec24-10, 09:16 AM
i need to mark all the Base and Acid in the Equation (in the picture) and tell why i think i choose Them to be acid and base

i mark the Acid in red line and the Base in blue line, tell me if i Right.

my Explanation is HNO is Acid and it give proton While CH3NH2 is base and it gain in the proton but about the other Materials in the Equation i am not sure who is base and who is acid and i need your help here.


thanks.

sjb-2812
Dec24-10, 09:30 AM
i need to mark all the Base and Acid in the Equation (in the picture) and tell why i think i choose Them to be acid and base

i mark the Acid in red line and the Base in blue line, tell me if i Right.

my Explanation is HNO is Acid and it give proton While CH3NH2 is base and it gain in the proton but about the other Materials in the Equation i am not sure who is base and who is acid and i need your help here.


thanks.

If all the picture is, is 1 equation, can you consider typing it out to help the search function here?

Anyway, on the right hand side of the equation, which species is donating a proton, and which is accepting it?

omni
Dec24-10, 10:33 AM
sure i can typing it here but if i will do it is will be really Unclear.

CH3+HNO3<---->NO-3+CH3NH+3


for your answer:NO3 is donating proton and CH3NH is accepting proton yes?

sjb-2812
Dec24-10, 10:41 AM
sure i can typing it here but if i will do it is will be really Unclear.

Have a look at the formatting options above where you type, so you can write this out as

CH3NH2 + HNO3 <-> CH3N(+)H3 + NO3-



for your answer:NO3 is donating proton and CH3NH is accepting proton yes?


Not quite, where is the proton for NO3- to donate?

omni
Dec24-10, 11:04 AM
ok thanks for let me know about the formatting options.


well tell me if i Right in the way that i mark the Materials on the Left side.


"Not quite, where is the proton for NO3- to donate? "


well so i don't really know. what is the way to know if Material donate or accept proton?

I thought NO3- donate proton Because the (-) i know proton is Positive and if some Material will donate proton he will become more Negative.

thanks

sjb-2812
Dec25-10, 01:31 PM
Yes, the red and blue in your image are right. There is no proton (or H+) for NO3- to donate within this structure.

If we write the equilibrium the other way around, as CH3N(+)H3 + NO3- <-> CH3NH2 + HNO3, which species on the left hand side has protons.

Of course this will not always work, but is good enough for this example

omni
Dec26-10, 02:10 AM
so in the left side CH3N(+)H3 is the acid and NO3- is the base?

thanks

sjb-2812
Dec26-10, 05:14 AM
so in the left side CH3N(+)H3 is the acid and NO3- is the base?

thanks

Methylammonium is the acid on the left-hand side of the reversed equation, yes.

omni
Dec26-10, 05:18 AM
thank you very much.