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Tangent87
Jan13-11, 11:59 AM
Hi, I'm doing question 2/II/32D at the top of page 68 here (http://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/undergrad/pastpapers/2005/Part_2/list_II.pdf). I have done everything except for the last sentence of the question.

This is what I have attempted so far:

|\chi\rangle=|\uparrow\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}
1 \\
0 \end{array} \right)

Then U|\chi\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}
cos(\theta /2) \\
0 \end{array} \right)-(\boldsymbol{n}.\boldsymbol{\sigma})\left( \begin{array}{c}
isin(\theta /2) \\
0 \end{array} \right)

Now I need to choose n. If I want the spin up state measured along the direction (sin@,0,cos@) am I correct in thinking I need the eigenvector corresponding to the +1 eigenvalue of this matrix?:

\sigma_1 sin\theta+\sigma_3 cos\theta=\left( \begin{array}{cc}
cos\theta & sin\theta \\
sin\theta & -cos\theta \end{array} \right)

In which case this the desired state is U|\chi\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}
sin\theta \\
1-cos\theta \end{array} \right)

But I don't think it's possible to choose n such that this is the case, so where have I gone wrong? Also do I need to worry about any \hbar /2 since \boldsymbol{S}=\frac{\hbar}{2}\boldsymbol{\sigma}?

Thanks.

diazona
Jan13-11, 11:10 PM
Hi, I'm doing question 2/II/32D at the top of page 68 here (http://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/undergrad/pastpapers/2005/Part_2/list_II.pdf). I have done everything except for the last sentence of the question.

This is what I have attempted so far:

|\chi\rangle=|\uparrow\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}
1 \\
0 \end{array} \right)

Then U|\chi\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}
cos(\theta /2) \\
0 \end{array} \right)-(\boldsymbol{n}.\boldsymbol{\sigma})\left( \begin{array}{c}
isin(\theta /2) \\
0 \end{array} \right)

Now I need to choose n. If I want the spin up state measured along the direction (sin@,0,cos@) am I correct in thinking I need the eigenvector corresponding to the +1 eigenvalue of this matrix?:

\sigma_1 sin\theta+\sigma_3 cos\theta=\left( \begin{array}{cc}
cos\theta & sin\theta \\
sin\theta & -cos\theta \end{array} \right)

In which case this the desired state is U|\chi\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}
sin\theta \\
1-cos\theta \end{array} \right)

But I don't think it's possible to choose n such that this is the case, so where have I gone wrong?
Right idea, wrong matrix. Think about it like this: you are trying to arrange for the component of spin along a particular axis to be +\hbar/2, so you need to find the +1 eigenvalue of the matrix that measures spin along that axis. If the axis were the z axis, you'd use S_z. If it were the x axis, you'd use S_x. For an arbitrary axis, though, you don't have a precomputed spin matrix, so you'll need to calculate it by applying a rotation to one of the known spin matrices.

Now, do you know how to use U to implement a rotation? Specifically, remember what the meanings of the vector \hat{n} and the parameter \theta are, in the context of rotations.
Also do I need to worry about any \hbar /2 since \boldsymbol{S}=\frac{\hbar}{2}\boldsymbol{\sigma}?
Keep in mind that \sigma is unitless, and just make sure the units are consistent :wink:

Tangent87
Jan14-11, 05:45 AM
Right idea, wrong matrix. Think about it like this: you are trying to arrange for the component of spin along a particular axis to be +\hbar/2, so you need to find the +1 eigenvalue of the matrix that measures spin along that axis. If the axis were the z axis, you'd use S_z. If it were the x axis, you'd use S_x. For an arbitrary axis, though, you don't have a precomputed spin matrix, so you'll need to calculate it by applying a rotation to one of the known spin matrices.

Now, do you know how to use U to implement a rotation? Specifically, remember what the meanings of the vector \hat{n} and the parameter \theta are, in the context of rotations.

Keep in mind that \sigma is unitless, and just make sure the units are consistent :wink:

Can you tell me what I've done wrong in using the matrix \boldsymbol{m}.\boldsymbol{\sigma}=
\sigma_1 sin\theta+\sigma_3 cos\theta=\left( \begin{array}{cc}
cos\theta & sin\theta \\
sin\theta & -cos\theta \end{array} \right)
where m=(sin@,0,cos@) (the direction for the new spin up state). Now we have to choose an n such that U=exp(-i\boldsymbol{n}.\boldsymbol{\sigma}\theta/2) rotates our original spin up state into this new one? As you say, U here is the rotation operator which will rotate the state by an angle theta about n.

Tangent87
Jan14-11, 05:59 AM
Actually I think I might have just figured it out. I think I've got the RIGHT matrix, just the WRONG eigenvectors. My spin up eigenvector can be simplified to (cos(@/2),sin(@/2)) and if I choose n to be n=(0,1,0) I think that will work?

vela
Jan14-11, 06:21 AM
Yes, that's correct.

diazona
Jan14-11, 07:15 PM
Can you tell me what I've done wrong in using the matrix \boldsymbol{m}.\boldsymbol{\sigma}=
\sigma_1 sin\theta+\sigma_3 cos\theta=\left( \begin{array}{cc}
cos\theta & sin\theta \\
sin\theta & -cos\theta \end{array} \right)
where m=(sin@,0,cos@) (the direction for the new spin up state). Now we have to choose an n such that U=exp(-i\boldsymbol{n}.\boldsymbol{\sigma}\theta/2) rotates our original spin up state into this new one? As you say, U here is the rotation operator which will rotate the state by an angle theta about n.
Ah, sorry about that. I didn't go all the way to the end of the calculation so I didn't realize that the matrix you have is actually the right one for this case.