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krishna mohan
Jan30-11, 07:30 AM
Hi...

I was reading through the second edition of the book Galactic Dynamics from Binney and Tremaine.

Chapter 3 :eqns 3.8 and 3.9.

3.8 says

r^2 \frac{d \phi}{dt}=L=constant.

Then 3.9 writes

\frac{d}{dt}=\frac{L}{r^2}\frac{d}{d\phi}

But is this correct? For example, if I act this on r, the radial coordinate, I get

\frac{dr}{dt}=0

For a general orbit in a central force, r is not a constant.
So is there a mistake in the book, or am I missing something?

George Jones
Jan30-11, 07:45 AM
Yes, it's correct, but the notation is a little sloppy.

Let

r \left ( t \right) = \tilde{r} \left( \phi \left ( t \right) \right).

These are really different functions (of different vraiables) , but this type of notational abuse, denoting different, but related functions by the same letter, is very common in physics.

Using the chain rule, what is dr/dt? Using d/dt from the book, what is dr/dt?

krishna mohan
Jan30-11, 08:00 AM
Yes..I understand the mistake I am making...

I was assuming r and \phi are independent variables.....

But once an orbit is determined by the initial conditions, they are no longer independent...

Is that correct?