What force acts on the material of the capacitor in the Graham-Lahoz experiment?

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The discussion centers around the forces acting on the material of a capacitor in the context of the Graham-Lahoz experiment, which involves the interaction of displacement current with a constant magnetic field. Participants explore the implications of this interaction and seek to clarify the nature of the forces involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references the Graham-Lahoz experiment and questions what specific force acts on the capacitor material.
  • Another participant suggests that turning on the magnetic field induces a surface current, leading to a positive charge on one plate and a negative charge on the other, resulting in a torque described by F=qE.
  • A different participant disputes the previous claim, stating that the magnetic field in the Graham-Lahoz experiment is constant, implying that the described effects may not apply.
  • Another participant asserts that turning on the magnetic field is not possible, adding to the confusion regarding the experiment's conditions.
  • A later reply acknowledges a misunderstanding of the experiment, suggesting that the situation may not be as unusual as initially thought.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the forces acting on the capacitor and the conditions of the magnetic field, indicating that multiple competing views remain and the discussion is unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the implications of the constant magnetic field and the nature of the displacement current, as well as potential misunderstandings regarding the experiment's setup.

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There is well known Graham–Lahoz experiment

G. M. Graham, D. G. Lahoz. Nature, 285, 154, 1980.

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where "dispacement current" interreacts with constant magnetic field by Biot-Savart law.

It is OK! But a question appears - what namely force acts on the material of the capacitor??

I was very surprised nobody knows the answer !
 

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Turning on the magnetic field induces a surface current that is up on your picture for one plate and down for the other. This current lasts until it gives a positive charge at the top of one plate and a negative charge at the top of the other plate. The F=qE provides a torque.
 
clem said:
Turning on the magnetic field induces a surface current that is up on your picture for one plate and down for the other. This current lasts until it gives a positive charge at the top of one plate and a negative charge at the top of the other plate. The F=qE provides a torque.

It is not true. In Graham-Lahoz experiment magnetic field is constant!
 
Turning on the magnetic field is not possible!
 
I am very pardon! I was wrong in understanding this experiment. There is no unusual :D
 

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