Time development of Expectation values

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The discussion revolves around the time development of expectation values in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on an operator A and its commutation relation with the Hamiltonian H. Participants explore the implications of the commutation relation on the time evolution of when the system is initially in an eigenstate of A.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of the commutation relation on the time evolution of . There is no consensus on the interpretation of the results, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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The discussion highlights the dependence on the definitions of operators and the implications of commutation relations, as well as the need for further mathematical resolution to fully understand the time evolution of .

Ed Quanta
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Here is a question that I have found in my quantum text which I have been thinking about for a few days and am unable to make sense of.

If there is an operator A whose commutator with the Hamiltonian H is the constant c.

[H,A]=c

Find <A> at t>0, given that the system is in a normalized eigenstate of A at t=0 corresponding to the eigenvalue of a.


-So here is what I am thinking. Please tell me what I am doing wrong.

I know that where p is momentum operator [H,p]=ihdV/dx, and V is some potential in the Hamiltonian

and d<p>/dt=-<dV/dx>

So where [H,A]=c, wouldn't d<A>/dt=0? And then there would be no change in the eigenstate of A with time, and <A>=a which is its initial value at 0, which would be a(Psi) where Psi is my wave function or eigenvector or whatever I need it to be.

Am I understanding the question wrong?
 
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Ed Quanta said:
So where [H,A]=c, wouldn't d<A>/dt=0?

Nope.

Check out Heisenberg's equation of motion:

(-i*hbar)(dA/dt)=[H,A]

So if [H,A]=c, then the operator A is evolving in time at a constant rate. The only way you will have dA/dt=0 is if c=0.

More http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/qm/fundamental/node31.html .
 
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Ok, I follow your argument as to why dA/dt=0, but what I am unclear about is what this does to <A>. And what is the significance of eigenvalue a of the eigenstate A in describing <A> where t>0? We know at t=0,A=a I believe.
 
Solve the equation -i hbar dA/dt = c for A.
From this calculate the time evolution for <A> with the given initial value.

I did not try it. The fact that the initial average value is an eigenvalue will play a role in the second step: you know the initial state.
 
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