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Hypnotoad
Oct22-04, 02:32 AM
How do you prove that the product of two orthogonal matrices is orthogonal? I know that a matrix can be written in component form as A=a_{jk} and that for an orthogonal matrix, the inverse equals the transpose so a_{kj}=(a^{-1})_{jk} and matrix multiplication can be expressed as AB=\Sigma_ka_{jk}b_{kl}. I think that is all I need to be using, but I'm not sure where to go from there.

Galileo
Oct22-04, 03:13 AM
Think of some other characteristic of orthogonal matrices.
Think about determinants in particular.

shmoe
Oct22-04, 09:33 AM
the inverse equals the transpose so a_{kj}=(a^{-1})_{jk}

As you've written it, this is incorrect. You don't take the inverse of the entries. If A=[a_{jk}] is orthogonal then A^{-1}=A^{T}=[a_{kj}].

There's no need to go into the entries though. You can directly use the definition of an orthogonal matrix. Answer this question: what do you have to do to show (AB) is orthogonal?

Hypnotoad
Oct22-04, 10:36 AM
Think of some other characteristic of orthogonal matrices.
Think about determinants in particular.

Well the determinant of an orthogonal matrix is +/-1, but does a determinant of +/-1 imply that the matrix is orthogonal? I know that the determinant is distributive |AB|=|A||B|, so the determinant of the product does have to be +/-1, but I don't know if that is sufficient to show that a matrix is orthogonal.

shmoe
Oct22-04, 11:13 AM
Well the determinant of an orthogonal matrix is +/-1, but does a determinant of +/-1 imply that the matrix is orthogonal?

No, it doesn't. There are matrices with determinant +/- 1 that are not orthogonal.

To show AB is orthogonal, you can show directly that (AB)^{-1}=(AB)^{T}. What is (AB)^{T}(AB)?

Galileo
Oct22-04, 02:51 PM
No, it doesn't. There are matrices with determinant +/- 1 that are not orthogonal.

You're right. I was so totally confused :redface: