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zn52
Jun11-11, 03:58 PM
hello,
Please attached snapshot of an answer to an Ex. I was stunned at the formula for the derivative of the solid angle which is :

d(solid angle) = dvx * dvy

I would appreciate if somebody can provide some hints on how one can find it ?

Thank you,

mathman
Jun11-11, 04:13 PM
Since I don't know what vx and vy are, it is hard to answer. However the solid angle can be envisioned as an area on a unit sphere, so these could be length differentials in the x and y directions on a unit sphere.

zn52
Jun11-11, 04:20 PM
well as you can see in the same line, the vx and vy are velocities since they are equal to P over E in the 4-momentum . the px and py are momentum in the x and y directions of the incoming photos I guess ?

Bill_K
Jun12-11, 10:53 AM
It's not a derivative of solid angle, it's a differential, it's the area of a small rectangle in velocity space, exactly analogous to the other line, d(cross-sectional area) = dx dy

zn52
Jun12-11, 12:21 PM
I see . But how can we derive this expression ? why is it defined in the velocity space ? sometimes I wonder from where similar expressions come from ...

mathman
Jun13-11, 03:32 PM
A solid angle is dimensionless, but the expression d(solid angle) = dvx * dvy has velocity squared on the right hand side. Something has to be included to make the expression dimensionally consistent.

zn52
Jun14-11, 12:49 PM
yes it might be that the speed of light squared is in the denominator and it is considered as 1 ...