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Robert Zaleski
Aug29-03, 05:21 PM
Besides the radioactive elements, do the other elements on the Periodic Table of the Elements have half-lives?

LURCH
Aug29-03, 11:21 PM
Yes, all elements have a half-life. All atoms eventually decay. But some of the lighter elements radioactively decay so slowly that their half-life does not have much practical bearing on observational experience.

Robert Zaleski
Aug30-03, 09:57 AM
Thank You, Lurch.

FZ+
Aug30-03, 05:44 PM
Er... what about Iron? If Iron decays... what does it decay to?

zoobyshoe
Aug30-03, 07:29 PM
Rust, I guess, Fz+.

Lurch, I have never heard this.
Are you pulling legs?

LURCH
Aug31-03, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
Rust, I guess, Fz+.

Lurch, I have never heard this.
Are you pulling legs?

Not at all. Just pointing out that the stable elements are called stable because they have halflifes longer than the supposed age of the universe, trillions of years in some cases. But the law of entropy tells us that even these must eventually break down.

Nim
Aug31-03, 05:41 PM
What is the predicted half-life of hydrogen anyways? I remember it being very huge.

Thinking about it some more. If everything has a half-life, does everything end up decaying into hydrogen and then disintegrating into subatomic particles from there?

FZ+
Aug31-03, 06:04 PM
Proton has a half life of about 10^30 years, IIRC...

Nim
Aug31-03, 11:53 PM
Has a proton ever been observed to decay?

Robert Zaleski
Sep1-03, 10:52 AM
[QUOTE]"Thinking about it some more. If everything has a half-life, does everything end up decaying into hydrogen and then disintegrating into subatomic particles from there?"

What were the ingredients of the 'Big Bang' soup?

selfAdjoint
Sep1-03, 12:17 PM
I don't think anyone has ever seen a proton decay. The 10^30 years figure (now pushed up to 6*10^32, I believe) is a lower limit. They got it by observing 10^30 protons for a year and none decayed.

alchemist
Sep2-03, 10:45 AM
if what is said is true,that all elements have a half-life, then it means that they would continue to disintegrate over time and would there be a stage where they would become the simplest form of particles and therefore stop disintegrating???

DrChinese
Sep2-03, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by selfAdjoint
I don't think anyone has ever seen a proton decay. The 10^30 years figure (now pushed up to 6*10^32, I believe) is a lower limit. They got it by observing 10^30 protons for a year and none decayed.

Yup, this figure is a moving target. Proton decay may never be observed.

LURCH
Sep3-03, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by alchemist
if what is said is true,that all elements have a half-life, then it means that they would continue to disintegrate over time and would there be a stage where they would become the simplest form of particles and therefore stop disintegrating???

As we get down to the simplest forms, wave/partical duality becomes a real issue. Theretically, entopy would not be satisfied with individual atoms or even sub-atomic particals. If the universe is indeed "open", and does not end, and if entropy does not cease for some other reason, all energy should break down and distribute untill there is nothing but a uniform background radiation. This is "heat death", and would be the end of entropy.