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xLaser
Nov12-04, 08:33 PM
7
----
\
/ 1 <- *note: the 1 should be more to the right.
----
N=3


Ok, this might be dumb :blushing: , but it think the answer for this is 1 but i'm just making sure.

cuz i know that for example if it is

7
----
\
/ N <- *note: the N should be more to the right.
----
N=3

the answer would be 3+4+5+6+7

but if it is just a 1 there, then is it just 1? i mean the N doesn't really matter because N isn't present as a variable on the right side.

Thx guy,

Mike.

Gokul43201
Nov12-04, 09:39 PM
Actually, the answer is not 1.

Here, try this : find

\sum_{N=3}^7 (N+1)
and use the fact that this should be equal to \sum_{N=3}^7 N + \sum_{N=3}^7 1.

From this you can find the last term, which is the one you want.

xLaser
Nov13-04, 11:56 AM
wouldn't that be :

(3+4+5+6+7)+(1) ??

because

7
----
\
/ 1 <- *note: the 1 should be more to the right.
----
N=3

is = to 1 no matter what since there is no variable there?@@#%?!

Gokul43201
Nov13-04, 11:59 AM
When N=3, what is (N+1) = ? And what about when N= 4 ? ...

xLaser
Nov13-04, 12:01 PM
ok i get your question above, but how about if it is
7
----
\
/ 1 <- *note: the 1 should be more to the right.
----
N=3

by itself? this sigma by itself would just mean 1 rite?

xLaser
Nov13-04, 12:03 PM
and it doesn't have to be limited to 1 only, what about if it is 2 there, or 3, or 4..? There is no variable N there so the N shouldn't really do anything... for any value of N the value would still be the number on the right?! doesn't that make sense?

xLaser
Nov13-04, 12:58 PM
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook i just figured it out.

for

7
----
\
/ 1 <- *note: the 1 should be more to the right.
----
N=3

it actually means t1 + t2 + t3 + t4

where t1 = 1, t2 =1 and so on,

therefore, the answer should be

1+1+1+1 = 4 !!!!!

is that rite Gokul43201

shmoe
Nov13-04, 03:50 PM
It's not 4 either, but you're closer.

Let t_i=1 for all values of i. Your sum is

\sum_{i=3}^{7}t_i=t_3+t_4+t_5+t_6+t_7

Note that you had missed a term when you rewrote it as t1+t2+t3+t4. There are actually 5, not 4, terms in this sum. If you are going to change the index variables starting point, make sure you adjust the end carefully as well.

xLaser
Nov14-04, 03:54 PM
aah ok thx alot m8.