Formula for mass up an inclined plane

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The discussion revolves around deriving a formula for the work required to push a mass up an inclined plane, given parameters such as gravitational potential energy, the coefficient of friction, and the angle of inclination. The original poster attempts to formulate the work equation starting from W=Fd.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between work, distance, and the forces acting on the mass. There are attempts to manipulate the equation to isolate distance 'd' and questions about the validity of having 'd' as an unknown variable in the equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering different perspectives on how to express the work done in relation to the distance and the angle. Some suggest leaving the work expression in terms of 'd', while others emphasize the need for a single variable representation.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing debate about the independence of variables and the constraints of the problem, particularly regarding the unknown distance 'd' and how it relates to the gravitational potential energy and angle of inclination.

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I was just wondering if anyone could help me out with this homework. You have to derive a formula to figure out the work needed to push a mass up an inclined plane. All you know is the gravitational potential energy, the coeffieciant of friction, and the angle. Your supposed to start out with W=Fd.
All I have so far is W=(umgcosfeta+mgsinfeta)(d). I'm not sure how to get "d", if anyone could help me out I'd really appreciate it. I'm guessing you have to make the masses cancel out somehow too.
 
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Just divide both sides by umgcosfeta+mgsinfeta

So W/umgcosfeta+mgsinfeta= d
 
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well you don't know "d" so that formula won't work?
 
'd' is the independent variable, and 'W' is the dependent variable.

You solved the problem, and you have a formula for 'W' as a function of 'd'.
 
you don't know "d", you can't have W=something d. u can only have one variable at the end
 
Leave W as a function of the angle and d...if u have the change in the gravitational potential energy, then u can work out the final height. So in the triangle d is the hypotenuse, h is the opposite side and hence d can be expressed as

d=h/sin(theta)
Substitute that into your work equation, however from what you wrote, the question only wants an expression for the work done, so it can be left in terms of d.
 
could W=ucosfetaE+E work?
 

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