How Do You Solve Momentum and Elastic Collision Problems in Physics?

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The discussion revolves around solving problems related to momentum and elastic collisions in physics. Participants are examining scenarios involving collisions between different masses and the implications of conservation laws in these contexts.

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  • Participants explore the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy as key principles for solving elastic collision problems. There are discussions about the need for multiple equations due to the presence of two unknowns in the scenarios presented. Some participants question the nature of elastic collisions, particularly whether objects can stick together, while others emphasize the importance of treating momentum as a vector quantity.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the principles involved in elastic collisions, with some participants providing guidance on the necessary equations. Multiple interpretations of the results are being discussed, particularly regarding the outcomes of the calculations and the implications of the answers obtained.

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Participants note that the problems involve specific mass values and initial velocities, and there is a recognition of the complexities introduced by having two unknowns in the equations. Some participants express confusion over the results they are obtaining, indicating potential misunderstandings or miscalculations in applying the conservation laws.

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A steel ball of mass 10kg moves due east at 5.0m/s. It collides with a rubber ball of mass 5.0 kg moving at 10m/s due north. After the collision the steel ball moves at an angle of 60 degrees East of North with a speed of 4.0 m/s.
If the collision were perfectly elastic what would be the speeds of the two balls after the collision?

Where do I start. I know total momentum before = total momentum after. But there seems to be 2 variables. vafter for steel ball and v after for rubber ball.

Can an elastic collision have the 2 objects even stick together?
If so then i got 1.92m/s.
 
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If the collision is elastic the 2 objects won't stisk together.

Try thinking of momentum as a vector. You can use triginometry for the angel, but I don't think it's really necesry.

P.S. don't forget that the mass of the 2 balls is constant.
 
You have two unknowns so you need two equations. Yes, one of the equations is "momentum before= momentum after", conservation of momenum. Since this collision is "elastic", the other is "kinetic energy before= kinetic energy after": conservation of energy.

Momentum is a vector quantity so you will need to consider x and y components separately. Kinetic energy is a "scalar" quantity so you really have 3 equations for 4 unknowns (x and y components of both velocities) but fortunately you are given the angles.
 
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A ball of mass 3.0kg moving at a speed of 3.0ms has a head-on collision with a stationary ball of mass 4.0kg.

If the collision were perfectly elastic what would be the speeds of the two balls after the collision?

I used the momentum before=momentum after equation and the KE before= Ke after equation.

I get weird answers. I get 2 answers. I get the velocity of the 3kg ball at -.42m/s and 3m/s. So what's the answer? If i know the velocity of the of this ball I can find the velocity of the other.
 
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I need help on another question
A ball of mass 3.0kg moving at a speed of 3.0ms has a head-on collision with a stationary ball of mass 4.0kg.

If the collision were perfectly elastic what would be the speeds of the two balls after the collision?

I used the momentum before=momentum after equation and the KE before= Ke after equation.

I get weird answers. I get 2 answers. I get the velocity of the 3kg ball at -.42m/s and 3m/s. So what's the answer? If i know the velocity of the of this ball I can find the velocity of the other.
Using only considerations of energy&momentum conservation before and after collision will always yield two sets of possible answers (solutions):
1) There hasn't been any interacting force between the two objects in the collision period.
That is, there wasn't any collision after all.
2) There has been a net momentum transfer (through a non-zero force) during collision.

Your 3m/s possibility is clearly of the trivial 1)-type.
 
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