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snoopies622
Oct26-11, 02:34 AM
In an instantaneous co-moving inertial frame, the four-acceleration vector reduces to (0,a).

Why then does applying a Lorentz transformation to the above vector not produce the general form?

lalbatros
Oct26-11, 03:44 AM
That's because the co-moving frame has a changing speed,
and because a general result cannot be obtained from a special result.
The simple form (0,a) is valid only for a small lapse of time.

Using the full expression for the acceleration at any time in the once-co-moving frame,
would allow you to derive the expression in any other frame.
The general expression is Lorentz invariant.

snoopies622
Oct26-11, 11:42 AM
...a general result cannot be obtained from a special result.
Yes, that makes sense to me. The problem I'm having is one of imagination. I have always pictured the Lorentz transformation as a kind of rotation. So I imagine a (0,a) vector being rotated from one position to another, and a one-to-one correspondence between a vector in the v=0 frame and the set of the same vector in all the other frames.

I know it works for four-momentum. That is, if one starts with the specific v=0 case m_0 (c,0) and Lorentz transforms it, it turns into the general case
\gamma m_0 (c,\bf {v})

I will give it more thought.

nitsuj
Oct26-11, 02:06 PM
I have always pictured the Lorentz transformation as a kind of rotation.


Are you able to explain that? Most people seem to picture & refer to it as a rotation, but I can't envision it.

snoopies622
Oct26-11, 03:33 PM
Well, if you graph xi ( i^2 = -1 ) on the horizontal axis versus ct on the vertical, then it's a rotation, and the angle is the rapidity. I suspect that some find that idea objectionable - it's misleading in some ways - but I still like it.

Correction: the angle is rapidity times i. Pretty weird, yes.