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With Hobson's notation:
H=(da/dt)/a
dH/dt = ((d2a/dt2)/a) - ((da/dt)/a)2
If ((d2a/dt2)/a) is negative, (dH/dt) is certainly negative.
But if ((d2a/dt2)/a) is positive, (dH/dt) can be positive or negative.
What is your interpretation?
mathman
Dec18-11, 03:23 PM
dH/dt = ((d2a/dt2)/a) - ((da/dt)/a)2
Above is incorrect. Should be:
dH/dt = (d2a/dt2)/a - (da/dt)/a2
Your second term is wrong.
I like Serena
Dec18-11, 03:34 PM
No, it is correct.
I think you're forgetting the application of the chain rule.
I also think EhsanZ's interpretation is correct, although I do not know what "Hobson's notation" is.
I couldn't find it with google, except for in this thread. ;)
BillSaltLake
Dec18-11, 06:21 PM
Actually I think the only thing wrong with second eq. is a lack of superscripting of the 2s:
dH/dt = ((d2a/dt2)/a) - ((da/dt)/a)2
George Jones
Dec18-11, 07:13 PM
With Hobson's notation:
H=(da/dt)/a
dH/dt = ((d2a/dt2)/a) - ((da/dt)/a)2
If ((d2a/dt2)/a) is negative, (dH/dt) is certainly negative.
But if ((d2a/dt2)/a) is positive, (dH/dt) can be positive or negative.
What is your interpretation?
d^2 a/dt^2 > 0 and dH/dt < 0 means that the expansion of the universe is accelerating while the Hubble constant is decreasing. We think that this is happening today.
although I do not know what "Hobson's notation" is.
I couldn't find it with google, except for in this thread. ;)
This (I presume) refers to the notation used in the book General Relativity: An Introduction for Physicists by Hobson, Efstathiou, and Lasenby.
EhsanZ, play around with the spatially flat, matter-only Lemaitre model given on page 406 and in problem 15.23. This a good analytic approximation to our universe.
Chronos
Dec18-11, 11:55 PM
George is correct. If you look at the equations dispassionately, it is obvious the result can never be negative.
mathman
Dec19-11, 03:15 PM
No, it is correct.
I think you're forgetting the application of the chain rule.
I also think EhsanZ's interpretation is correct, although I do not know what "Hobson's notation" is.
I couldn't find it with google, except for in this thread. ;)
You're right. My bad.
dH/dt = ((d2a/dt2)/a) - ((da/dt)/a)2
Above is incorrect. Should be:
dH/dt = (d2a/dt2)/a - (da/dt)/a2
Your second term is wrong.
No my friend! U made a mistake.
You're right. My bad.
Doesn't matter! Everybody makes mistakes.:smile:
No, it is correct.
I think you're forgetting the application of the chain rule.
I also think EhsanZ's interpretation is correct, although I do not know what "Hobson's notation" is.
I couldn't find it with google, except for in this thread. ;)
I meant the notation that Hobson had used in his book named "General Relativity: An Introduction for Physicists ".
Actually I think the only thing wrong with second eq. is a lack of superscripting of the 2s:
dH/dt = ((d2a/dt2)/a) - ((da/dt)/a)2
Yes, you're right my friend. I should've written it more carefully.
Thanks
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